Any feedback would be appreciated!

[radhumble]

Hi guys, I posted a spec on the forum a while ago and have done some tinkering since then! I just have a few questions; with regard to the PSU; I've read that the RM/x series is better than the TXm, but for my build is it really necessary to upgrade? Especially considering the shortage of RM/x PSUs?

This build will be primarily for gaming. I am going to manually install a 1TB HDD, and use the M2 500GB SSD as a boot drive and for game storage (not sure if this is a good idea), I also have a Samsung 860 EVO SSD on hand, so I was wondering if I should install that also and use it as a dedicated boot drive instead of using the M2 for both.

I'm pairing this with an ASUS VG248 (1980x1080 144hz), and my budget is at a maximum of 1750 euro!

Any suggestions will be wholeheartedly welcome

Case	CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275Q QUIET CASE Change to: CORSAIR 275R AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)	AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
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[Scott]

I've made a few tweaks. Regarding the PSU it depends how quiet you are looking for and how important it is to you. I noticed that you went from the quiet case to the airflow.

You don't need the 2070 Super for a 1080p monitor. It's a complete waste. I know you may be thinking of future etc but it's better to save a few quid for the next GPU upgrade in a year or so, than overspend now and not even get use of it.

If silence is important, the following would be as good as you can get for power, airflow and silence. If it's not that much of an issue, post back and I'll tweak it (and save you a fair few quid). Silence costs money to do right unfortunately.

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 BLACK QUIET MID-TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Eight Core CPU (3.9GHz-4.5GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
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CORSAIR 750W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
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Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
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3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
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[radhumble]

Hey Scott!

Thanks for the tweaks! I forgot to add in the first bit, but in the coming month or two I'm going to be getting a 1440p 144hz monitor; so I was over spec-ing for that.

Silence would be nice, but my priority would be airflow so things run nice and cool. Again, if I can rejig come components around for something silent I'm all game!

But for the PSU; there is nothing different other than how quiet it runs? Are both the TXm and RM fairly reliable and durable (quite ignorant I know, apologies!)

Also, I see you changed it to a watercooling set-up; would you recommend that? I was a little put off by the pricey-ness of it but if its exponentially better I'm happy to pay for the premium

Again thank you for the continued help!

 

[Scott]

Hey Scott!

Thanks for the tweaks! I forgot to add in the first bit, but in the coming month or two I'm going to be getting a 1440p 144hz monitor; so I was over spec-ing for that.

Silence would be nice, but my priority would be airflow so things run nice and cool. Again, if I can rejig come components around for something silent I'm all game!

But for the PSU; there is nothing different other than how quiet it runs? Are both the TXm and RM fairly reliable and durable (quite ignorant I know, apologies!)

Also, I see you changed it to a watercooling set-up; would you recommend that? I was a little put off by the pricey-ness of it but if its exponentially better I'm happy to pay for the premium

Again thank you for the continued help!

It would depend on the time frames to be honest. It's never a good idea to build a PC system with the view to purchase a monitor later, going the other way around is often the more sensible approach. The next generation of GPU should be out in September (ish), for example, if you spent the premium on the 2070 Super right now, then purchased a 1440p 144hz monitor in September..... you would probably be kicking yourself as the 3060 will, in all likelihood, make the 2070 Super pale in comparison. The 3060 is likely to be ITRO £350 so the money saved right now could be put towards both the monitor AND the GPU upgrade at the same time, offer much better value than current markets and also allow you to sell on the GPU for a reasonable sum to put towards it.

It's difficult accountancy to process though, and I do understand that. It all really hinges on when the monitor is being purchased. If you can hold off to purchase the PC and Monitor at the same time, it often works out far better as you get as good as you can for the budget and can sleep easy knowing such (insomnia would be extreme but you get my point).

The Define 7 does it all, literally. The only down side with the case is that you pay for it, it's not cheap. It's in among the flashiest, high flying cases around.... and looks as dull as dishwater, because what it does.... nothing else competes with.

The RM and RMx are a tier above the TXm. The RM itself is a sort of mini-drop from the RMx. The TXm doesn't have as good a warranty and won't be as quiet as either of the big brothers. Don't think for a minute that it's not a good PSU though, it's first class. The TXm are excellent PSUs, all the Corsair options are. If you want quiet and some extra warranty... again you want the RM, if you aren't fussed and want to save some cash.... the TXm is more than fine.

The water cooling isn't required, it's just the coolest/quietest option. The H115i barely needs to idle to keep the 3800X cool and it uses Magnetic Levitation fans..... which means no noise. Literally the only noise that comes from this setup is the airflow (which is a good thing). You won't hear the pump at all thanks to the excellent case and you won't here the fans on quiet mode because they are unreal. The 3800X is unlikely to need anything past "quiet" mode, it keeps my 9900k in check for most uses even overclocked. I only put it onto "standard" mode when I'm gaming and "Extreme" mode when I'm bench marking the life out of it.

 

[radhumble]

First of all, thank you for taking the time to help me with this, I really do appreciate it! I'm going to downgrade to a 2060s in lieu of upgrading it to the beefier model when it releases; and I'm going opt-in for the h115i as well as the RM series and Fractal case.

I hope I'm not wrecking your head with all these questions but I just have two more!

So, what is the difference between the x570 and the b550? I did a bit of research myself but fell into the old trap of more expensive is better; when I couldn't find much different.

Similarly, when I was doing my research I read that 3600Mhz RAM was optimal for the 3800x; will downgrading to 3200Mhz have any impact on performance?

 

[Scott]

Sounds like a great plan. I think you will be quite in awe at just how powerful yet quiet the package will be.

The X570 has better VRM capability than the B550 (and PCie4.0 Extension, but don't worry about that). For the most part, this won't make any odds to most people. It comes into play when you are looking to purchase the high core CPUs such as the 3900/3900X/3950X. These chips utilise a LOT of voltage when they are at full chat and with the 7nm technology it needs to be very clean. The voltage management on the X570 chipset is first class and has better cooling to facilitate it.

For most users there's no point in the X570. The only reason to consider it is if you can see yourself upgrading to one of the top tier CPUs at some point. The next generation 4800X (or whatever iteration it has) will likely have you covered in frequency bump etc, so you wouldn't need the X570. If you were considering the likes of the 4900X due to a change of usage (heavy core, multi-threaded application) then sure, the X570 is a reasonable outlay right now. For gaming..... don't even worry about it.

I would personally choose the 3600mhz RAM if the costs aren't too much to swallow. Downgrading will have negligible noticeable effect (I would actually say nil, but I'll air on the side of caution) but if it's only a few quid more then why not.... then it'll never niggle.

It's one of the areas where if nothing else is going to make way for it, definitely go for it. It's never something I would choose over another area though, if you get what I mean.

The system as described will blow your mind. If you pair it up with a 1440p 144hz monitor and the 3060/3070 GPU equivalent of next year, you're just going to be laughing.

Oh, before you hit the button on the upgrades next year.... post back. I have a feeling you might be enticed by superwide

 

[radhumble]

I know I've said it before, but seriously, thank you for the advice and information!

I'll be sure to post back in the coming months for sure haha!