Any idea when 11th gen Intel or AMD Ryzen 5xxx CPUs will be available?

[men8ifr]

Specifically in a 17" Gaming laptop (so Ionico?)

Quite a few of my programs heavily use a single thread and the 11th gen intel or Ryzen 5xxx are quite a bit faster (in Geekbench) e.g. from 11-1200 to ~1500 usually.

 

[Citrus_9]

Specifically in a 17" Gaming laptop (so Ionico?)

Quite a few of my programs heavily use a single thread and the 11th gen intel or Ryzen 5xxx are quite a bit faster (in Geekbench) e.g. from 11-1200 to ~1500 usually.

Not quite sure about laptops but AMD CPU's, especially 5000 series, especially 5600X, regarding to single thread performance is great. 5600X stocks for desktops is better than 5800X, I guess for laptops should be similar.

 

[bwizz]

Hey guys, I will over cencor this post due to concern of getting deleted, since I am referencing competitor models of laptops (which I don't think I should have to do but this forum has rules and such).

Anyway, (I don't even care how many people even find this post useful) because your question was so close to my own laptop quest I couldn't help but reply.

I have spent so, so, so many hours looking at laptops, of course many contubuting factors weigh in a decision when looking at a new purchase. (for me thickness, tdp and thermals made the largest impact when choosing)

Anyway, I ended up deciding that the Ionico chassis suited my needs the best, I took the most reference materials from the Jarrodtech youtube channel where he reviews the AMD chassis from another cometitor (***). This reveiw really filled me with confidence.

Essentially in another video Jarrod reviewed the gaming performace of the 10875 verses the Amd newly released CPUs, he found that despite the AMD advantage when it came to multithreaded workloads and general day to day use includng a massive longevity on the battery life in general use, the 10th gen intel still had the advantage in gaming performance (so if you are more workload focused or need battery life wait for amd). Therefore I was planning on buying an 10th gen Ionico soon.

This is due to not knowing how well the 11th gen intel will perform v the well developed 10th gen and also the availbility of the 5000 amd processors as on competitor websites with the same chassis do not show availability until late April. (So do not expect PCS to list this spec til then)

Hopefully I do not break any forum rules with this post since I spent a while typing it. So would hate to see it deleted.
Thumbs up always apreaciated if you found this post useful.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Im sorry, but are you saying the 10th gen Intel CPUs are better at gaming than teh 5000 series AMD ones?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Im sorry, but are you saying the 10th gen Intel CPUs are better at gaming than teh 5000 series AMD ones?

This is the usual misinterpretation of benchmarks seeing one graph higher than the other without understanding the significance of it. Where yes, the Intel 10000 mobile chips do "beat" AMD in gaming, it's literally by a couple of FPS. If you watch his summary, even Jarrod says he would not choose the Intel (and Jarrod is an Intel fanboy) because the advantage is within margin of error in performance, whilst massively compromising on all areas that make a laptop a laptop ie, battery life, thermals and power consumption.

If those few FPS were significant at the cost of laptop power consumption etc, then you wouldn't opt for a laptop anyway, you'd get a DTR with desktop CPU's in it. So it makes no sense to go for intel over AMD despite the "increase" in performance. It's literally worthless performance gain anyway.

 

[SpyderTracks]

This is the usual misinterpretation of benchmarks seeing one graph higher than the other without understanding the significance of it. Where yes, the Intel 10000 mobile chips do "beat" AMD in gaming, it's literally by a couple of FPS. If you watch his summary, even Jarrod says he would not choose the Intel (and Jarrod is an Intel fanboy) because the advantage is within margin of error in performance, whilst massively compromising on all areas that make a laptop a laptop ie, battery life, thermals and power consumption.

If those few FPS were significant at the cost of laptop power consumption etc, then you wouldn't opt for a laptop anyway, you'd get a DTR with desktop CPU's in it. So it makes no sense to go for intel over AMD despite the "increase" in performance. It's literally worthless performance gain anyway.

Furthermore, it's one benchmark of one AMD chassis with one processor, they have a whole range of processors more powerful than the one in that video and it's all down to the chassis design and cooling configuration on how good performance will be.

 

[men8ifr]

Well to answer my own question I can now pre-order a Recoil with a huge selection of very fast 11th Gen intel chips BUT it's nearly 2" thick and only FHD so I need an Icono but at the moment I can't even order (or go on a waiting list for) one with 10th Gen intel chip..

 

[NBrooke]

The recoil is a desktop replacement laptop that's using the 11th gen Desktop CPU.

Ionico uses the mobile laptop CPU's which have yet to be released in 8 core guise. These CPU's are due to become available within Q2 of this year according to Intel.

I'm in the same boat as yourself in wanting the Ionico, but I'm also deliberating the wait times between the 10th gen and 11th gen. Even without the delay in CPU release dates, it's looking like the RTX 3000 boards are out of stock at the moment too. The website is indicating a date in May that they will be back. I guess you and I will have to wait a bit if we want to place an order.

 

[men8ifr]

Yes it's frustrating - the other laptop I had my eye on was a competitor with RTX 3060 Ryzen 5800 17" QHD for £1300 pre-order on Amazon it seems to fluctuate accepting pre-orders for June 4th and out of stock but.. I don't know TGP (suspect it may be low) and it's 25mm thick plastic but I can't wait forever and the Ryzen is a better processor than 10th gen Intel..

 

[SpyderTracks]

Well to answer my own question I can now pre-order a Recoil with a huge selection of very fast 11th Gen intel chips BUT it's nearly 2" thick and only FHD so I need an Icono but at the moment I can't even order (or go on a waiting list for) one with 10th Gen intel chip..

Intel 11th gen chips perform worse than 10th Gen, they're really really bad processors.