Before buying need advice

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drumks

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Hi,

I want to buy my new laptop for gaming (i7 8700 + 2070 rtx) i need some advice :)

- I am hesitating about this two models 15,6" OCTANE VI (CLEVO P775TM1-G) and 17,3" OCTANE VI (CLEVO P775TM1-G).
My concern is about the temperature, do you think that using a larger chassis will help ?

- I want to take the option of COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL, is it put on CPU & GPU ?

- What do i have to choose beetween 230w or 330w adapater ?

- The battery of that models is removable, is it advisable to remove it when pluged with adapater to preserve the battery's life ?

Thanks you in advance !
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
I wouldn't have thought that any difference would be that significant. The CPU/GPU heat is conducted away by copper heat pipes and expelled at the heat exchangers by the fans in both models. It might be that the greater volume helps keep other air-cooled components a bit cooler but I wouldn't have thought there is much in it. Good quality thermal compound is always a good idea.

IMO you'd be better slecting the model based on screen size (ie. useable real estate), overall size, and overall weight.

The power adapter depends on which GPU you choose.

I would leave the battery plugged in always, it doesn't shorten the life. TBH laptops are not designed to cope with sudden power failures - because they're always battery backed. Removing the battery and then having a power failure might not do the laptop any good...
 
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drumks

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ubuysa said:
When you select your GPU in the configurator it will automatically select the appropriate charger unit.
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Ok thank you.

But for the 15" 230w & for the 17" 330w for the same configuration, it is strange...
I can choose the 330w for the 15" instead of the 230w
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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How sure are you that the Octane is the right choice?

Its main draws are desktop CPUs (not very relevant for gaming), an RTX 2080 available in the 17" chassis (which you're not going for). Moreover, PCS don't offer 1440p screens in the Octane making the 2080 a bit pointless.

The chassis is a lot more expensive, and smaller, lighter, cheaper chassis will give similar performance.
 
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drumks

Bronze Level Poster
Oussebon said:
How sure are you that the Octane is the right choice?

Its main draws are desktop CPUs (not very relevant for gaming), an RTX 2080 available in the 17" chassis (which you're not going for). Moreover, PCS don't offer 1440p screens in the Octane making the 2080 a bit pointless.

The chassis is a lot more expensive, and smaller, lighter, cheaper chassis will give similar performance.
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Thank you for being honnest and redirecting me on cheaper chassis ;)
I do that because i think the temp will be better with that chassis and because its very easy to access to all the components with that chassis.

Maybe i am wrong with the temp ?
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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I think you're wrong about the temperatures.

The Octane has better cooling capabilities, but that's because the CPU it houses have twice the TDP and so use a lot more power (and produce more heat).

One of the best chassis for managing temps is the Recoil
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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People have had Tongfang chassis for a while now, and it's worth bearing in mind that Clevo chassis have been known to run very high temps on some recent Intel CPUs.

Brand trust is somewhat illogical anyway (since any brand can and will occasionally make junk - as evidenced by this EVGA GPU I've just had) but if I were trusting one over the other for thermals tbf it'd be Tongfang.
 
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drumks

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You seems to be very sure about Tong Fang cooling, do you have any review who can make me change my opinion ? :)
 
Oussebon

Oussebon

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www.kitguru.net

PC Specialist Recoil II (i7-8750H & GTX 1060) Laptop Review - KitGuru

The PC Specialist Recoil II is the latest laptop to come through our labs sporting an Intel 8th Gen
www.kitguru.net www.kitguru.net

Thermal performance of the Recoil II is nothing short of excellent. Despite the thin chassis, there is plenty of ventilation to the sides and on the bottom of the laptop, and this – coupled with the fan speeds, which we will mention below – keeps the component temperatures looking very healthy.

Starting with the CPU, a peak of just 81C is a top result, and that is only furthered by the fact that this temperature came with the CPU clock speed holding at 3.1GHz across all cores. The GS65, for instance, could only push all 6 cores to 2.8GHz, and even then the CPU still peaked at 85C.

As for the GPU, 73C is very cool – especially when we consider it was operating at a higher frequency to the GTX 1060 in the Tracer III, and yet it is still 4C cooler. That suggests the GTX 1060 in the Recoil II could be running even faster and thermals would still be absolutely no concern.
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Obviously worth looking into reviews of newer models with the new hardware, not just how it handled last gen stuff.

Much like how Clevo chassis seemed to see a bit of a spike in complaints about temps once they started sporting Kaby Lake CPUs, up from 6th gen, at least that was the impression I got on these forums. Newer, hotter hardware can always challenge a chassis design. Most units sold by PCS were fine of course, it was just my impression that there was a bit more concern and maybe a few more instances of temps being problematic than I remembered seeing with the 6700HQ et al.

There's this review of the 15.6" Recoil chassis with a 2070 Max-Q:
www.bit-tech.net

PC Specialist Recoil II (RTX) Review | bit-tech.net

A six-core CPU, 144Hz display, and RTX 2070 graphics for less than £1,700.
www.bit-tech.net www.bit-tech.net
Which shows excellent temps but does note limited TDP for the CPU.

However, the 17.3" chassis sports a full laptop 2070 and a 230W power adapter rather than just the 180W one offered on the 15.6" one. So with the improved cooling enabling a 2070, and the more generous PSU, it may potentially have the 45W TDP for the CPU.

The point is to take every chassis on its individual merits, and not assume based on brand, chassis size, or any other factors, especially if sinking so much cash into a system :)

I don't have a review of the Vortex, but it could be a good option too.
 
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drumks

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Thank you so much for all informations ! :)

Seems interesting even if, like you said, its for an 15" version with 2070 max-q.
But i don't think it'll have impact on the 17" version.
 
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Oussebon

Oussebon

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They're different chassis with different components and very different power limits, so it is definitely important to check.

Likewise, the Vortex looks very good - but if it was my money I wouldn't spend £1500+ on one until I saw a proper review with some info on temps! Though I admit I'm a bit paranoid about buying things on faith. :)
 
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drumks

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Oussebon said:
Likewise, the Vortex looks very good - but if it was my money I wouldn't spend £1500+ on one until I saw a proper review with some info on temps! Though I admit I'm a bit paranoid about buying things on faith. :)
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Agreeing 100% ;)
 
debiruman665

debiruman665

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As an owner of an 17 inch Octane VI with an RTX 2080 I'd like to confirm the GPU never overheats. it sits around 80C under full loads.

The cpu on the other hand (9900k) can go all the way up to 100C at full load. Cant comment on the 8700 but I can confirm this laptop is good at belting the heat out the back when in hair dryer mode.
 
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drumks

Bronze Level Poster
debiruman665 said:
As an owner of an 17 inch Octane VI with an RTX 2080 I'd like to confirm the GPU never overheats. it sits around 80C under full loads.

The cpu on the other hand (9900k) can go all the way up to 100C at full load. Cant comment on the 8700 but I can confirm this laptop is good at belting the heat out the back when in hair dryer mode.
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Thank you for your answer :)

Did you tried to undervolt your CPU ?
What is the average CPU temp during gaming cession ? I guess (and hope :D) it is not at 100C
 
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