Editing Machine spec?

[johwoo]

New Editing machine spec we are thinking of.

Uses - heavy 4K video editing workflow with Premier Pro, special FX work using After FX plus additional VR content, additionaly some gaming
Editing speed is critical plus rendering file duplications for different platforms / devices via Handbrake
We store all RAW footage on externals
Monitors - curently use LG 27UD58-B

Rough idea of what we are considering

Case
BE QUIET! DARK BASE PRO 900 REV. 2 FULL TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900KS (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO WIFI (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS ARGB GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
20TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1600W PRO SERIES™ TITANIUM AX1600i DIGITAL MODULAR PSU
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - White
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3x Corsair LL120 RGB LED Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland
Price: £6,885.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-ddr5-pc/jG6p6UhsBM/

 

[johwoo]

Could you possibly go back to the post to forum page and include the Unqie Configurable URL from the bottom of it please? Just makes it easier to go in and edit than redo a spec from scratch. Thank you

Can you also let us the asbolute maximum budget just so we have a ceiling?

I'm not an editor so can't advise but I don't see much wrong with what is suggested.

Apologies, edited the above post to include the Unqie Configurable URL, ceiling is prob around £10k

 

[SpyderTracks]

Apologies, edited the above post to include the Unqie Configurable URL, ceiling is prob around £10k

Given your useage and budget, I would unquestionably go with a full custom loop liquid cooled build, the GPU's will greatly benefit, plus the CPU would benefit from an overclock for your workload and custom loop will help greatly with that also.

 

[sck451]

Given your useage and budget, I would unquestionably go with a full closed loop liquid cooled build, the GPU's will greatly benefit, plus the CPU would benefit from an overclock for your workload and closed loop will help greatly with that also.

I think you mean an open loop, no? Closed loop is an AIO. I agree, though, that a Liquid build makes sense here.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I think you mean an open loop, no? Closed loop is an AIO. I agree, though, that a Liquid build makes sense here.

Sorry, yeah, open loop, the question is would @johwoo be ok with the annual maintenance required on a custom loop build?

This involves flushing the water loop and reservoir, and replacing the liquid with premix. You may be able to get away with only doing it once every 2 years, all depends on your environment.

If that's gonna be unreasonable given your workload (if it's a critical project PC required 24/7), then I'd suggest a standard build with an AIO on the CPU, but then I'd suggest buying some Hybrid GPU's from elsewhere as PCS unfortunately don't stock these. These essentially strap an AIO closed loop (fully sealed) watercooler onto the GPU graphics die, so you can maintain far far lower temps and therefor average higher clock boosts. They are more expensive but I think you'd see a worthwhile gain in performance over the long term as well as reduced failure in the long term.

I've been running a hybrid GTX1080 Founder Edition (custom job) for around 5 years now, never seen temps go above 60 and have been able to reach far higher overclocks.

 

[SpyderTracks]

This would be your spec but in a water cooler system as suggested above:

Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 XL BLACK QUIET TOWER CASE - Window
Custom Liquid Cooling Kit
Liquid Series RGB High Kit - Corsair Hydro X
Tubing
Clear Flexible Tubing (Metallic Fittings)
Graphics Card Cooling
GPU Water Block - For One Graphics Card!
Coolant Colour
EK-CryoFuel White
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900KS (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO WIFI (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
20TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1600W PRO SERIES™ TITANIUM AX1600i DIGITAL MODULAR PSU
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - White
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Firewire
2 Port IEEE 1394a Firewire PCI-E Card (2 x 6 pin)
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Liquid Series® Build - Approximately 5 to 8 working days
Price: £7,140.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-liquid/SpVv7cxryv/

For the budget, I would probably squeeze in Dual GPU's.

Plus I'd probably keep it on Windows 10 for stability.

 

[SpyderTracks]

If the maintenance on a custom loop isn't feasible, then I'd suggest your original build but with 2 of these purchased elsewhere:

EVGA Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID Liquid Cooled 24GB Graphics Card - 24G-P5-3988-KR

The EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid delivers a new tier of exceptional performance that gamers crave at 8K resolution gaming, powered by the NVIDIA Ampere architecture. HYBRID cooler gives you the benefits of custom water cooling in a simple self-contained unit. No additional parts and...

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Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700M TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900KS (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO WIFI (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
20TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1600W PRO SERIES™ TITANIUM AX1600i DIGITAL MODULAR PSU
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Braided Power Supply Cables
CORSAIR Premium Individually Sleeved PSU Cable Kit Pro - White
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Professional 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [MUP-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
FAST TRACK 3 WORKING DAY DISPATCH
Price: £5,084.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-ddr5-pc/RJBjwqwPH4/

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yeah, I missed the Windows 11.

As to the Dual GPUs, none of the Liquid configurators lists a second GPU as an option, although you can get a Dual GPU water block which seems strange?

Oh really? That must be a bug, if that's the case, I'd put through the order and then speak to PCS as they will certainly accommodate dual GPU's.

 

[Scott]

Would need to check the rendering use to see if dual GPUs would be worthwhile I would think. I know that After Effects would only use one but I think Premiere Pro can make decent use of multiples when doing certain rendering. Not convinced that it would be worth it right enough.

Change left over from 10k no bother

 

[johwoo]

Sorry, yeah, open loop, the question is would @johwoo be ok with the annual maintenance required on a custom loop build?

This involves flushing the water loop and reservoir, and replacing the liquid with premix. You may be able to get away with only doing it once every 2 years, all depends on your environment.

If that's gonna be unreasonable given your workload (if it's a critical project PC required 24/7), then I'd suggest a standard build with an AIO on the CPU, but then I'd suggest buying some Hybrid GPU's from elsewhere as PCS unfortunately don't stock these. These essentially strap an AIO closed loop (fully sealed) watercooler onto the GPU graphics die, so you can maintain far far lower temps and therefor average higher clock boosts. They are more expensive but I think you'd see a worthwhile gain in performance over the long term as well as reduced failure in the long term.

I've been running a hybrid GTX1080 Founder Edition (custom job) for around 5 years now, never seen temps go above 60 and have been able to reach far higher overclocks.

That is a limitation for us. The machine is needed daily and more or less 24/7, heavy editing and fx processing at least 4/7 days so taking it out the workflow for a week or so for servicing would not be an option unless absolutley necessary

 

[SpyderTracks]

That is a limitation for us. The machine is needed daily and more or less 24/7, heavy editing and fx processing at least 4/7 days so taking it out the workflow for a week or so for servicing would not be an option unless absolutley necessary

Yeah, I expected that, in that case your build with the hybrid GPU's I linked would be my recommendation

 

[Scott]

I still don't think the crazy extreme build is required, especially on the GPU front. I would definitely look at purchasing the GPU elsewhere, but I would be looking at 1.... and it would be the 3090Ti.

I would contact PCS regarding the M2 drives. I've selected a 500GB primary, a 2TB secondary and I would recommend adding a 4TB 3rd drive. With the budget and understanding on the level of use you have, I would fully expect an on-site redundancy system that could forego a storage drive. This would be beneficial as I would want to keep the internals minimalist as possible. The Firecudas have excellent write endurance so I would absolutely use them for the main work & fast storage options. The 980 pro will come into its own for the OS and main Program drive.

Didn't select any additional luxuries as it seemed like maximum selection loading more than anything else. This doesn't add to performance in any way and it can often hinder it.

This:

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with this:

Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700M TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900KS (3.4GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO WIFI (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair DOMINATOR PLATINUM RGB DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
INTEGRATED GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR (GPU)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1600W PRO SERIES™ TITANIUM AX1600i DIGITAL MODULAR PSU
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 7 working days
Price: £3,416.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z690-ddr5-pc/F60ZxZREb7/

 

[Scott]

Oh, I would contact PCS regarding the RAM as well. With such a build I am sure they would test out the faster option available in 64GB guise if you requested. This would absolutely be beneficial.