How bad is the Proteus VI screen?

[superswirl]

Hi,

I'm stuck between the Proteus VI with its more powerful 2070 full fat (more perf / higher clocks) BUT apparently not so great screen (is it though?) and the Recoil 2 with better overall looks to my taste and better screen but with the disappointing and gimped 2070 Max-Q we have with this generation of Turing MQ mobile cards.

If the screen of the proteus VI isnt so bad I think I'll be inclined to get it over the Recoil 2 for that extra 2070 performance

I hope you see my dilema and can help me make the right choice.

Thanks in advance. Cheers!

Will

 

[Oussebon]

Nobody here will have the answer

I'd suggest you ask PCS what panel models they are using for both laptops (please do post them up here if you find out) and you can then look for reviews of the panels.

 

[big3y3s]

From what i can tell they look like the same 144Hz 1080p 72% NTSC panel.

I, like yourself was torn between the two but fancied the full 2070 over the max-Q version. Plus from what I have read, the cooling on the recoil laptops isn't too great due to the chassis thickness.

I ordered the Proteus 6 on the 29th, the day the RTX was released on here but the chassis is out of stock until the 6th .

Regards,
Shane.

 

[Oussebon]

The cooling on the Recoil II is fine. Pretty much every review says this.

People can complain about the aesthetics, mechanical keyboard not being to taste, probably battery life and maybe the screen depending on expectations, and I don't think it's a particularly quiet chassis, but the cooling's exceptional from what I've seen, despite the relatively thin chassis.

You can see some reviews here, https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/reviews/

For instance Kitguru noted:

Thermal performance of the Recoil II is nothing short of excellent. Despite the thin chassis, there is plenty of ventilation to the sides and on the bottom of the laptop, and this – coupled with the fan speeds, which we will mention below – keeps the component temperatures looking very healthy.


Starting with the CPU, a peak of just 81C is a top result, and that is only furthered by the fact that this temperature came with the CPU clock speed holding at 3.1GHz across all cores. The GS65, for instance, could only push all 6 cores to 2.8GHz, and even then the CPU still peaked at 85C.


As for the GPU, 73C is very cool – especially when we consider it was operating at a higher frequency to the GTX 1060 in the Tracer III, and yet it is still 4C cooler. That suggests the GTX 1060 in the Recoil II could be running even faster and thermals would still be absolutely no concern.

If I were thinking of buying a Recoil I would of course wait for reviews of this Tongfang chassis with the new GPUs in just to be sure, but it really hasn't struggled with thermals versus other chassis designs.

I'd also wait for reviews of the Proteus chassis (a Quanta? I haven't looked by Proteus usually is). I do recall a few people having issues with one of the older Proteus chassis and thermals on both the CPU and GPU (7700HQ generation). But, older generation, so new reviews may say different.

 

[Sarracenae]

From what i can tell they look like the same 144Hz 1080p 72% NTSC panel.

I, like yourself was torn between the two but fancied the full 2070 over the max-Q version. Plus from what I have read, the cooling on the recoil laptops isn't too great due to the chassis thickness.

I ordered the Proteus 6 on the 29th, the day the RTX was released on here but the chassis is out of stock until the 6th .

Regards,
Shane.

From the reviews i've seen so far benchmarking it looks like the 2060 is as good if not better than the 2070-MaxQ. So if you want a 2070 you probably made the right decision to avoid the maxq!

 

[superswirl]

Yes I don't understand the point of the 2070 MQ? Its so close to the 2060 it doesnt make any sense? There's still very little data available tough so I'm looking forward to more benchmarks.

I might have to buy the Proteus instead which at least has the full fat 2070 in it. Hopefully the screen is ok.

I want a 2070 for its 8gb of vram because i have a 1440p gaming monitor so the extra vram is kinda nice to have

 

[Oussebon]

Did you ask PCS for the panel model to look it up? What did they say?

 

[superswirl]

Yes I did they gave me this model number: B156HAN07.0 link: http://www.panelook.com/modeldetail.php?id=35106

Its an AUO panel which are frequently seen in laptops and usually pretty well reviewed I think.

Problem is that the NTSC % doesnt correspond to what is listed on the PCS configurator, however its supposed to be that panel.

Looks like its a VA panel and if it is indeed that very panel then I guess its not too bad...

 

[Oussebon]

I'm not at all familiar with these things, but isn't when PCS say 72% NTSC, isn't this 72% NTSC mapped vs CIE 1931 (the listing says 72% CIE 1931). The panel's listed as AHVA, rather than VA, so close to IPS.

 

[big3y3s]

From the reviews i've seen so far benchmarking it looks like the 2060 is as good if not better than the 2070-MaxQ. So if you want a 2070 you probably made the right decision to avoid the maxq!

That was my thought exactly, stayed well clear of the Max-Q. Hopefully the chassis will be back in stock on the 6th so i should be able to get my hands on it the week after

 

[aoro]

I don't know why the proteus VI is so cheap.
I am still waiting for review.Sadly, its don't support g-sync

 

[bibolcm]

Man same problem here! I really dont see the point of them selling recoil II with a 2060 full and a 2070 max q.. I really wanted recoil II just waiting for more data about this gpus. Also is it possible to overclock the 2070maxq to almost full? As max q only means undervolting i think? Proteus 6 looks too big for me.

 

[superswirl]

Man same problem here! I really dont see the point of them selling recoil II with a 2060 full and a 2070 max q.. I really wanted recoil II just waiting for more data about this gpus. Also is it possible to overclock the 2070maxq to almost full? As max q only means undervolting i think? Proteus 6 looks too big for me.

I'm in exactly the same boat! I really want the smaller size and portability of the Recoil 2 15 but that comes at the cost of having the gimped 2070 Max-Q, I can't believe the lack of data we have on the rtx laptop cards..!

The proteus was on my list because of the full fat 2070 but the looks and bulky size doesnt sit well with me. Its more of a typical gaming laptop size and design but I prefer the cleaner look and portability of the Recoil 2 15

I think I'll be sticking with the Recoil 2 and just live with 2070 Max Q, expect it to perform similar to the 1070 MQ. So if you want to save some cash go with the 2060. I just want the extra 2GB of vRam for 1440p future proofing.

Don't expect to overclock this thing by a lot it will be power limited 100% of the time. We might be able to squeeze out 5% extra out of it.

The RTX laptop cards show poor performance because they are tested at 1080p and at that resolution you need higher clocks from both the gpu and cpu

I wouldnt be surprised if the 2060 performs better at 1080p since its clocked a little higher than the 2070 MQ

Hopefully I'll order mine this week and get my hands on it next week!

 

[olicar]

Hi all!

I see I'm not the only one with this dilemma.

What is confusing is that the screen specs for the Proteus is everywhere shown as "144Hz FHD Panel (1920 x 1080), 72% NTSC" except for one location, the DETAILED SPECIFICATION which states:

Screen Size 15.6 inch Widescreen
Native/Maximum Resolution 1920 x 1080
Backlight LED
Refresh Rate 60 Hz
NTSC 45%


Then what should I trust? The detailed specification (as above) or my quote (which states 144 Hz and 72%)?

I wish there were an IPS option for this screen! That would close the dilemma once and for all ^^ Coming soon maybe?

 

[Oussebon]

PCS seem to sometimes copy and paste parts of the configurators, and forget to change the details in some of the less obvious bits.

I suggest you drop them a line to point out the out of date info in the detailed configuration section.

The screen will be 144hz and 72% NTSC, and is apparently IPS (i.e. AHVA; not VA). So there's no dilemma there

 

[big3y3s]

I queried the screen when placing my order and was told that the details on the site hadn't been updated as they didn't fully know the panel specs when posting before launch.

They confirmed that it would be a 144Hz 72% IPS display. I'm still awaiting mine, just gone into build now after 14 days due to the chassis not being in stock

 

[olicar]

I contacted them to point it out and ask for a confirmation of what the screen is actually like. I didn't have the answer yet but I will trust big3y3s and Oussebon and finally order it right now!