I think I'm just one of the unluckiest people on these forums ordered on 28th aug still waiting has had some problems in testing and found more in quality control and has been retested twice now I believe, one problem I was told that it was not shutting down so motherboard has been replaced and awaiting hotroom space again, not pc specialists fault that mother board was Buggered though And totally agree that cannot go out till 100% working, i have phoned and been told twice that it should go out only to find out another fault was found bugger bugger bugger, I know it will be worth the wait just hope my luck changes