New PC concerns and advice welcome.

[MarkPoole1]

Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL II GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (WIFI 6E, DDR5, PCIe 5.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
20GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
22TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
5 x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fans
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

Main Focus is long gaming at high-ultra settings at 1440p an above (my monitor is 4k capable). Main concern is will it stay cool without me having to go down the road of liquid cooling or is that unavoidable seeing as I'd be running it for long periods on weekends.

Secondly I've read multiple articles about onboard sound vs a soundcard be interested in a few opinions as to if i should bother or not budget does allow currently sitting at £2988 cost my budget is £3500.

If everything seems good is it worth stepping up the GPU to the RX 7900 XTX and if i did where would i stand on my main concern of cooling?

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[SpyderTracks]

Main Focus is long gaming at high-ultra settings at 1440p an above (my monitor is 4k capable)

What make and model? Or refresh rate if you know?

 

[MarkPoole1]

What make and model? Or refresh rate if you know?

Gigabyte 43" 4K Ultra HD 144Hz VA HDR1000 HDMI2.1 1ms Gaming Monitor FV43U​

 

[Scott]

I would advise that 1440p gaming would be unwise on a 4k monitor. It simply doesn't look right and can give a screen door effect at times. Better to run at 4k. I think the XTX is worth it with this use case in mind.

I've made some changes below. Note that I've removed the Seagate drive as I just can't bring myself to add it to something I would recommend. If you really think this is the best solution for you then feel free to add it back in but I would absolutely spend the money on cloud storage with a redundancy rather than putting that significant amount of eggs in that single basket.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 V2 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100i ELITE RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days
Price: £2,868.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/6pt5MHwR33/

 

[MarkPoole1]

I would advise that 1440p gaming would be unwise on a 4k monitor. It simply doesn't look right and can give a screen door effect at times. Better to run at 4k. I think the XTX is worth it with this use case in mind.

I've made some changes below. Note that I've removed the Seagate drive as I just can't bring myself to add it to something I would recommend. If you really think this is the best solution for you then feel free to add it back in but I would absolutely spend the money on cloud storage with a redundancy rather than putting that significant amount of eggs in that single basket.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 V2 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H100i ELITE RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days
Price: £2,868.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/6pt5MHwR33/

I was going for the deep cool processor cooler as not sure how i feel about water cooling what with possible leaks and maintenance and life span of them but the deep cool is currently out of stock. If it comes back in stock would the deep cool actually be enough or is water cooling the only option for heavy gaming??

 

[sck451]

I was going for the deep cool processor cooler as not sure how i feel about water cooling what with possible leaks and maintenance and life span of them but the deep cool is currently out of stock. If it comes back in stock would the deep cool actually be enough or is water cooling the only option for heavy gaming??

The 7800X3D is pretty efficient. A good air cooler (like the DeepCool) is fine. A good AIO is also a really good option. In gaming there probably won't be a significant difference in performance.

That said, an AIO needs no maintenance and is very, very unlikely to leak. It is admittedly likely to fail before an air cooler because it's much more complex, but that lifespan may well be 7+ years, very conceivably more.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I ran one of the original H100i's in my system from 2014 to a couple of months ago and the PC was on 24/7

So that's 9 years continuous use, and the pc was in use 24/7 as other timezones accessed it while we were sleeping. I think the coolant evaporated, but tbh, I didn't really spend any particular effort troubleshooting as it was only to see me through a few months until I upgraded and I had a decent aircooler lying around.

 

[MarkPoole1]

Awesome thank you all for the advice looking at ordering back end of October so with any luck the Deepcool maybe back in stock if not guess I'd be happy with an AIO as the life span sounds ok and the no special maintenance needed is good news.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Awesome thank you all for the advice looking at ordering back end of October so with any luck the Deepcool maybe back in stock if not guess I'd be happy with an AIO as the life span sounds ok and the no special maintenance needed is good news.

By October, prices will have changed and there may be new kit available, there are even talks of perhaps new CPU's around then.

The PC market is so volatile, both in pricing and in parts being released, it moves so quickly that your expectations of a system are only really valid for about a month, after that it may require re speccing as prices / parts lead to a more optimal configuration.

 

[MarkPoole1]

By October, prices will have changed and there may be new kit available, there are even talks of perhaps new CPU's around then.

The PC market is so volatile, both in pricing and in parts being released, it moves so quickly that your expectations of a system are only really valid for about a month, after that it may require re speccing as prices / parts lead to a more optimal configuration.

Thank you I know things move pretty quick when it comes to PC's. Thankfully I'm not looking to stay on the very edge of the latest tech so the system configuration I'm looking at now thanks to your guys advice will pretty much be what I'd be aiming for tho I'm aware i might need to make the odd change depending on prices and stock but for now if things do manage to hold roughly the same then I'll be happy.

 

[MarkPoole1]

Ok thanks to your guys help I'm settled on this any room for improvement case/cooling wise?

How does fan and cooler placement work do they build with optimal placement or just where ever it fit easiest?

Also moved up my ETA on ordering to next month rather than the end of October as I'm going nuts not been able to play my PC (old one broke hence the new upgrade)

Think the system has more than enough of a life span/room to upgrade only concern is cooling.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX TD500 V2 MESH ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (DDR5, PCIe 5.0) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1 x 120mm Thermaltake TOUGHFAN 12 Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
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Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 12 working days
Price: £2,983.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/g2xgvRn4V8/

 

[SpyderTracks]

If you post back a few days before purchasing, we can advise on something. What we advise now won’t be what we’d recommend then.

 

[Scott]

As a direct example, 6000Mhz RAM is now available and would absolutely be recommended

 

[MarkPoole1]

Ok getting ready to pull the trigger next week this is what i finally land on as a setup mainly used for marathon long 4k gaming sessions. Main concerns are with remaining cool on long gaming sessions so any advice welcome.

My monitor is 4k capable - Gigabyte 43" 4K Ultra HD 144Hz VA HDR1000 HDMI2.1 1ms Gaming Monitor FV43U


Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000T RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (WIFI 6E, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair AF120 RGB ELITE PWM Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £3,185.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/TnAuFd0Xd5/

 

[sck451]

Ok getting ready to pull the trigger next week this is what i finally land on as a setup mainly used for marathon long 4k gaming sessions. Main concerns are with remaining cool on long gaming sessions so any advice welcome.

My monitor is 4k capable - Gigabyte 43" 4K Ultra HD 144Hz VA HDR1000 HDMI2.1 1ms Gaming Monitor FV43U


Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000T RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (WIFI 6E, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 XTX - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair AF120 RGB ELITE PWM Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Platinum Warranty (3 Year Collect & Return, 3 Year Parts, 3 Year labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £3,185.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/TnAuFd0Xd5/

Unless you have a strong reason for preferring a Gigabyte board, I'd suggest you look at either the Tuf B550 or the Tuf X670E boards. The former is all you need and saves £100ish; the latter offers more than the Aorus (e.g. a PCIe 5.0x16 slot) and saves £13.

But otherwise it's hard to argue with anything in this build.

 

[MarkPoole1]

Unless you have a strong reason for preferring a Gigabyte board, I'd suggest you look at either the Tuf B550 or the Tuf X670E boards. The former is all you need and saves £100ish; the latter offers more than the Aorus (e.g. a PCIe 5.0x16 slot) and saves £13.

But otherwise it's hard to argue with anything in this build.

Thanks i was looking at the Tuf X670E but it only supports to SSD's hence why i went Gigabyte.

 

[TonyCarter]

Thanks i was looking at the Tuf X670E but it only supports to SSD's hence why i went Gigabyte.

The TUF 670E supports 1 x PCIe 5, 2 x PCIe 4, and 1 x PCIe 3 for a total of 4 m.2 slots.

Storage
Total supports 4 x M.2 slots and 4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports*
AMD Ryzen™ 7000 Series Desktop Processors
M.2_1 slot (Key M), type 2242/2260/2280 (supports PCIe 5.0 x4 mode)
M.2_3 slot (Key M), type 2242/2260/2280 (supports PCIe 4.0 x4 mode)
AMD X670 Chipset
M.2_2 slot (Key M), type 2242/2260/2280/22110 (supports PCIe 3.0 x4 & SATA modes)**
M.2_4 slot (Key M), type 2242/2260/2280 (supports PCIe 4.0 x4 mode)
4 x SATA 6Gb/s ports
*AMD RAID Xpert Technology supports both NVMe RAID 0/1/10 and SATA RAID 0/1/10.
** M.2_2 slot shares bandwidth with SATA6G_1&2. When M.2_2 runs at PCIe x4 mode, SATA6G_1&2 will be disabled.

TUF Gaming X670E-PLUS - Specifications

ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS is an AMD AM5 (Ryzen™ 7000) ATX Gaming motherboard with 16 teamed power stages, PCIe® 5.0, DDR5 RAM support, four M.2 slots, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type-C®, and Aura Sync RGB lighting.

www.asus.com

 

[TonyCarter]

The TUF Gaming B650-Plus supports 3 (1 x PCIe 5.0, 2 x PCIe 4.0)

 

[MarkPoole1]

This is the warning i receive when trying to proceed.

 

[TonyCarter]

Hmmm...looks like another configurator error...you would have to order it with 2 m.2s, and then call to add the 3rd.

Even the TUF B650-Plus gets you through the same m.2 config error, but then warns about losing a USB socket...which is strange as there's no such warning on the lower spec Prime B650.