Query about 17,3" Ionico delivery to France and VAT

[pmarmotte]

Hi:
As you know since the Brexit, it is difficult to understand what is really going to happen when ordering a computer from you on the UK Shop.

When configuring the Ionico for the exact same configuration

Chassis & Display
Ionico Series: 17.3" Matte QHD 165Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1440)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre European Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Battery
Ionico Series Integrated 91WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (2.4 Gbps) + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 3 x USB 3.2 PORTS
Keyboard Language
IONICO 17 SERIES RGB BACKLIT FRENCH KEYBOARD
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
TongFang GM7MG7P (8GB RTX-3070, i7-10875H, 165Hz QHD, Blank KB)
Delivery
2 DAY DELIVERY TO FRANCE
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: 1 753,33 € including VAT and Delivery

There is a huge difference between the UK Price :1753.33 including VAT and " days delivery to France and the French price on the pcspecialist.fr site : 2 110,00 € including VAT and delivery

My main concern is that on UK site price with and without VAT is the same and on French site price before VAT is 1 758,33 € which seems to be slightly the same as the UK price.

So the question is, is VAT really included in the UK site price? If I order it and have it delivered to France would customs apply the french VAT?

Second question, customs costs (not VAT but cost for customs handling) are not to be paid if the product is an english product. The fact that the laptop is put together in UK from non UK parts would make it a UK manufactured product?

Otherwise I don't understand the difference of price between the two sites. If the price is correct I can afford the laptop right now, otherwise I will have to wait until august to get it and my actual laptop is diying

 

[Stephen M]

Only PCS would be able to clarify this. Email is probably best, although could take a week as they are very busy. There is a long wait on the phone at the moment.

 

[pmarmotte]

Thanks, anyway I am not in a rush. Will send then an email. Thanks Stephen

 

[Martinr36]

Doesn't the warranty get bumped up to Gold as standard on the european sites

 

[pmarmotte]

Doesn't the warranty get bumped up to Gold as standard on the european sites

Good point Martin.
This adds just 81 euros to the price. I don't really care about the warranty as my credit card provides a 5 year warranty on all electronics bought with a "not repairable= replacement to the initial cost" policy
I sent a mail to pcspecialist will wait for their answer

 

[pmarmotte]

I guess it is just a bug on the website as when ordering with country ireland or even UK selected VAT applies. This is dangerous as if I was to order now, I would have an invoice stating VAT included and sale would be definitive.
Waiting for their answer though

 

[Martinr36]

I guess it is just a bug on the website as when ordering with country ireland or even UK selected VAT applies. This is dangerous as if I was to order now, I would have an invoice stating VAT included and sale would be definitive.
Waiting for their answer though

There is a very lengthy thread somewhere about deliveries to Ireland and the fact that the IRISH VAT is applied by PCS as apparently they are VAT registered in Ireland

 

[Macco26]

You better buy from the .fr site anyway, as that's the only way to avoid your package being stopped at customs because you did not pay the required VAT for your country. PCS automatically adds your precise VAT only if you using the localized website.

Unless you like to become hostage of FedEx and Customs for like 2-3 months and pay the differece anyway later in the year.

 

[Bhuna50]

OK a little bit of investigation here for you hopefully shows that there isnt actually that much of a price difference. sorry I couldnt get your figures exactly but here:

When through the UK site, it initially shows with VAT:

As you progress and select France - it removes the UK VAT:

but if you go back into the reconfigure for it - although both prices are the same it states inc VAT price as well as UK tax will be 0 - but this should get clarified as you go through to the purchase screen

and when on the purchasing set of pages you do get told this:

Hope that helps.

You are therefore better off I think paying through the Fr site as it includes Fr VAT and GOLD warranty

 

[pmarmotte]

OK a little bit of investigation here for you hopefully shows that there isnt actually that much of a price difference. sorry I couldnt get your figures exactly but here:

When through the UK site, it initially shows with VAT:

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As you progress and select France - it removes the UK VAT:

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but if you go back into the reconfigure for it - although both prices are the same it states inc VAT price as well as UK tax will be 0 - but this should get clarified as you go through to the purchase screen

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and when on the purchasing set of pages you do get told this:

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Hope that helps.

You are therefore better off I think paying through the Fr site as it includes Fr VAT and GOLD warranty

Thanks a lot, this explains everything!
I appreciate you took the time to investigate this. And yes then it will be better to go with the Fr site
Can't wait! My old laptop even though still running starts to have issues with rendering (not due to computer quality but due to the software evolutions that make scenes more heavier even though a lot more realistic )

 

[Macco26]

We should be with the same laptop soon (Ionico 17 RTX 3070). They promised stocking the 15th Feb but incurred in delays allegedly due to Chinese New Year so first batch is coming March 3rd.
That should be my date of assembly as they are telling me (you'll receive periodic emails about them, check spam folder if you don't).
I pre-ordered the 27th of Jan. Curious to see in which date you'd be assembled provided it ends un being in the same batch (I do think so) and they have just to follow the queue of past preorders first. Let us know.

 

[pmarmotte]

We should be with the same laptop soon (Ionico 17 RTX 3070). They promised stocking the 15th Feb but incurred in delays allegedly due to Chinese New Year so first batch is coming March 3rd.
That should be my date of assembly as they are telling me (you'll receive periodic emails about them, check spam folder if you don't).
I pre-ordered the 27th of Jan. Curious to see in which date you'd be assembled provided it ends un being in the same batch (I do think so) and they have just to follow the queue of past preorders first. Let us know.

I just ordered mine today on the French website. There was no more a mention of the 3rd March (saw it before but no more today) I choose express mount and express delivery and so computer is said to be shipped monday (3 labors days)
I just hope it will not do the tremendous fan noise my old P775DM3(-G) does (this annoyes my wife every single time I game on the couch next to her)

 

[Macco26]

Wow that's weird. I mean anyone who preordered this could NOT select any express shipping due to lack of materials. And now everybody after can and be shipped right before 2 months of queue? Wow..
O-K..

 

[pmarmotte]

Wow that's weird. I mean anyone who preordered this could NOT select any express shipping due to lack of materials. And now everybody after can and be shipped right before 2 months of queue? Wow..
O-K..

maybe a glitch on the website? As far as the 3th March disponibility was no longer displayed on the product , there was therefore no reason for the system to deny express mount and delivery as this is denied automatically by the avalaible date.
Either they got the batches and of course it would made sense that those in waiting queue would be delivered before those ordering today, or it is a mistake and I will receive an email telling me I will be charged back for express mount,
Edit: I just checked on UK and IT site and as well there is no more any mention of shortage so I guess UK customs finally dispatched the Ionicos to the different sites