The Windows 10 October update is now available!

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Well from what i can see its really about edge, even to the point that it set 3 file extensions back to Edge as the default for them (htm, html & pdf)
 

slimbob

Enthusiast
Hi thanks for the heads up and link.

can I ask you all a quick question about the new update?

I am a bit confused. I have a friend who says he never jumps straight in and clean installs the latest version of windows 10 if his current version is working problem free. He says if it isn’t broke don’t fix it unless the new release offers features that I would find very helpful. He also strongly recommends I don’t keep using whatever version I am using past the 18-month support period. He is presently using V 1909 and will clean install v2004 before the support for 1909 ends so he is always running one update behind.

He says there are often problems with the release version and most problems get rectified near the half-life or near the end before the next update is released so by running one version behind you may have a less problematic experience as long as that version is still supported.

He also advises to always clean install whenever you decide to use a newer version of windows.

What do you all do? Will you be upgrading now or do you hold fire a bit?

What are your thoughts.

I am currently using V 2004.

Thanks a million.

Bob
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Hi thanks for the heads up and link.

can I ask you all a quick question about the new update?

I am a bit confused. I have a friend who says he never jumps straight in and clean installs the latest version of windows 10 if his current version is working problem free. He says if it isn’t broke don’t fix it unless the new release offers features that I would find very helpful. He also strongly recommends I don’t keep using whatever version I am using past the 18-month support period. He is presently using V 1909 and will clean install v2004 before the support for 1909 ends so he is always running one update behind.

He says there are often problems with the release version and most problems get rectified near the half-life or near the end before the next update is released so by running one version behind you may have a less problematic experience as long as that version is still supported.

He also advises to always clean install whenever you decide to use a newer version of windows.

What do you all do? Will you be upgrading now or do you hold fire a bit?

What are your thoughts.

I am currently using V 2004.

Thanks a million.

Bob
This is more of a service pack than a version upgrade, I would say you don’t need to clean install.

He’s playing it very safe, depends what you’re using the PC for. Personally I always update to the latest version and have never had an issue.
 

slimbob

Enthusiast
Thanks very much for your feedback.

You say "This is more of a service pack than a version upgrade, I would say you don’t need to clean install."
So do you recommend I just install the update via windows update as it is now showing in there to install?

Out of interest when I clean install windows in the future is creating the download installation media (USB) still the best way or can you just upgrade then reset?

Thank you for your help
 

Gavras

Master Poster
Hi thanks for the heads up and link.

can I ask you all a quick question about the new update?

I am a bit confused. I have a friend who says he never jumps straight in and clean installs the latest version of windows 10 if his current version is working problem free. He says if it isn’t broke don’t fix it unless the new release offers features that I would find very helpful. He also strongly recommends I don’t keep using whatever version I am using past the 18-month support period. He is presently using V 1909 and will clean install v2004 before the support for 1909 ends so he is always running one update behind.

He says there are often problems with the release version and most problems get rectified near the half-life or near the end before the next update is released so by running one version behind you may have a less problematic experience as long as that version is still supported.

He also advises to always clean install whenever you decide to use a newer version of windows.

What do you all do? Will you be upgrading now or do you hold fire a bit?

What are your thoughts.

I am currently using V 2004.

Thanks a million.

Bob
Does this mean zero updates or feature updates?

Microsoft have dramatically improved its update process.

I used to just update to lastest critical release, however there is now a high level of dependency between feature updates and all other updates.

for last few years I just let Windows do its thing, no reason to do a clean install - If it’s not broken....

Security vulnerabilities are why you really need to keep up to date.

anyone not updating is really leaving themselves open to risks.

Do you subscribe and read through all Windows releases for your platform and check which ones you Really need?

if not then just let Windows do it’s thing.

After vulnerabilities, next reasons are stability and performance.

Microsoft gets a hard time for its releases, however of all the out the box OS manufacturers, they have the most varied eco system to deploy to.
 

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
This is more of a service pack than a version upgrade, I would say you don’t need to clean install.

He’s playing it very safe, depends what you’re using the PC for. Personally I always update to the latest version and have never had an issue.
Same here
 

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Thanks very much for your feedback.

You say "This is more of a service pack than a version upgrade, I would say you don’t need to clean install."
So do you recommend I just install the update via windows update as it is now showing in there to install?

Out of interest when I clean install windows in the future is creating the download installation media (USB) still the best way or can you just upgrade then reset?

Thank you for your help
Yes & Yes
 

slimbob

Enthusiast
Does this mean zero updates or feature updates?

Microsoft have dramatically improved its update process.

I used to just update to lastest critical release, however there is now a high level of dependency between feature updates and all other updates.

for last few years I just let Windows do its thing, no reason to do a clean install - If it’s not broken....

Security vulnerabilities are why you really need to keep up to date.

anyone not updating is really leaving themselves open to risks.

Do you subscribe and read through all Windows releases for your platform and check which ones you Really need?

if not then just let Windows do it’s thing.

After vulnerabilities, next reasons are stability and performance.

Microsoft gets a hard time for its releases, however of all the out the box OS manufacturers, they have the most varied eco system to deploy to.

Thank you very much for your helpful reply and feedback it is much appreciated :)
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Hi thanks for the heads up and link.

can I ask you all a quick question about the new update?

I am a bit confused. I have a friend who says he never jumps straight in and clean installs the latest version of windows 10 if his current version is working problem free. He says if it isn’t broke don’t fix it unless the new release offers features that I would find very helpful. He also strongly recommends I don’t keep using whatever version I am using past the 18-month support period. He is presently using V 1909 and will clean install v2004 before the support for 1909 ends so he is always running one update behind.

He says there are often problems with the release version and most problems get rectified near the half-life or near the end before the next update is released so by running one version behind you may have a less problematic experience as long as that version is still supported.

He also advises to always clean install whenever you decide to use a newer version of windows.

What do you all do? Will you be upgrading now or do you hold fire a bit?

What are your thoughts.

I am currently using V 2004.

Thanks a million.

Bob
Your friends caution is very wise - if you're running a business or supporting multiple users.

For a single home user however he's being a little over cautious. I always upgrade Windows 10 when the new upgrade becomes available and I always clean install it from bootable media.

To protect against a flaky upgrade I keep several disk images of my existing system (as you know) and can drop back to one of those if necessary (it never has been).

Windows 10 is a wotk in progress and it is important to keep up to date.

Microsoft have changed their upgrade structure now. The May upgrade is a feature upgrade and really should be clean installed. The October upgrade is now more of a service pack and can be relatively safely installed via Windows Update (though I always clean install them).
 

slimbob

Enthusiast
Does this mean zero updates or feature updates?

Microsoft have dramatically improved its update process.

I used to just update to lastest critical release, however there is now a high level of dependency between feature updates and all other updates.

for last few years I just let Windows do its thing, no reason to do a clean install - If it’s not broken....

Security vulnerabilities are why you really need to keep up to date.

anyone not updating is really leaving themselves open to risks.

Do you subscribe and read through all Windows releases for your platform and check which ones you Really need?

if not then just let Windows do it’s thing.

After vulnerabilities, next reasons are stability and performance.

Microsoft gets a hard time for its releases, however of all the out the box OS manufacturers, they have the most varied eco system to deploy to.

Sorry Gavras I didn't answer your questions, I just realised after re reading your reply.

Does this mean zero updates or feature updates?

I was just talking about the two feature updates per year as I let Windows update do its thing when it wants. It doesn't automatically install the two larger feature updates which instead appear as an optional download within Windows update. I am currently running V2004 which I clean installed.

Do you subscribe and read through all Windows releases for your platform and check which ones you Really need?

Good point I must admit I don't as I am not very good with computers, I get by and am constantly learning with the help from his forum :).
 

slimbob

Enthusiast
Your friends caution is very wise - if you're running a business or supporting multiple users.

For a single home user however he's being a little over cautious. I always upgrade Windows 10 when the new upgrade becomes available and I always clean install it from bootable media.

To protect against a flaky upgrade I keep several disk images of my existing system (as you know) and can drop back to one of those if necessary (it never has been).

Windows 10 is a wotk in progress and it is important to keep up to date.

Microsoft have changed their upgrade structure now. The May upgrade is a feature upgrade and really should be clean installed. The October upgrade is now more of a service pack and can be relatively safely installed via Windows Update (though I always clean install them).
Thank you very much for your help.
Yes since your previous advice I am also using Macrium Reflect (free) to make weekly system images of my Windows / application partition (I only have one HDD in my computer). I also have my rescue media and recovery drive (USB's) in place too for good measure. I keep about 6 system images for safety :).

I just got a bit confused about the whole feature update thing but as always this forum has come to the rescue with all the helpful replies.
Thank you everyone :)
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
This update is a tiny one. There are very little changes and I don't think there would be too much to cause any issues.

The main upgrades are the new MS Edge browser is now an integrated part of Windows.
Icon tiles in the start menu now merge with the theme to take away the squares.

I don't think there's really anything else that users will notice. The theme addition is a welcome one as it did always annoy me.
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
Always a good thing to do anyway, belt and braces ;)

It's a good habit to get into as it instills proper storage and backup behaviours. It's painful at first as you almost always forget things, you don't learn a lot from getting things right though, it's always the mistakes that teach the most :D
 

Scott

Behold The Ford Mondeo
Moderator
I'm quite organised with my storage now...... thanks to all the pain I suffered by forgetting things during re-formats.

I tend to have a place for everything, and everything in it's place. It's one of the main reasons I always have relatively small system drives...... to stop me from hoarding junk in folders on the desktop :ROFLMAO:

My default download locations are in storage drives :D
 
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