[Vortex 17 III] Final Adice

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nipplepie

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From comparing CPU benchmarks I have made this:
Model - Performance Score
Processor
i7 3820QM - 9972 +£140 (+£245 more than 3610QM)
i7 3720QM - 9073 + £105
i7 3610QM - 8379
Phenom II 955 - 3906 Currently using
Graphics Card
HD 7970M - 3581
HD 5770 - 1693 Currently using

The settled specs are the 7970M, 8GB 1600Mhz Ram + Miscs (thermal paste, LAN card etc)
I can not settle on CPU and Storage. I want to save money, but the extra performance is in the 3720QM is tempting me. Is the £105 worth the specs?
Also wondering weather to save the £105 on CPU and get a 180GB SSD, instead of a 120GB one.
These specs are almost double my current one, so I won't be dissapointed either way. I will have about 70GB of games to put on the SSD if not more.
What would you choose? 3720QM + 120Gb SSD or 3610QM + 180GB SDD
 
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Luxas

Bronze Level Poster
If it's for gaming there won't be any difference between 3720QM and 3610QM.

Personally I am going for 3610QM + 7200rpm Hybrid
 
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Big_Rich

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Yeah, for the sake of 100 quid, it's not worth getting the 3720QM over the 3610QM. All you get is an extra 300Mhz clock speed and slightly faster intergrated graphics, which you won't be using anyway. Comparison here

I recommend sourcing an SSD yourself once you take delivery of you laptop rather than buying one with it. Intel or Kingston or nothing isn't much of a choice and there are far better SSDs available elsewhere when it comes down to price vs performance vs capacity.
 
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nipplepie

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Thanks a lot for the help guys!

Can I get any directions on the decent SSDs and providers?

Edit: I can get this one for £140: OCZ Agility 3 Series 240 GB
Can't really find good comparison charts and this is already faster and more capacity for less moneys.
 
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nipplepie

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Craigsup said:
I'm looking at the Crucial M4 (128GB) atm. It's one of the most reliable drives out there and the performance levels are extremely good.
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But when I look at the specs and compare it to the OCZ Agility 3 it seems a lot less powerful. I am looking to get something at 500-500ish read-write with 160GB+ for about £150 max.
 
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Craigsup

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nipplepie said:
But when I look at the specs and compare it to the OCZ Agility 3 it seems a lot less powerful. I am looking to get something at 500-500ish read-write with 160GB+ for about £150 max.
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- Sequential Read (up to): 550MB/sec (SATA 6Gb/s)
- Sequential Write (up to): 220MB/sec (SATA 6Gb/s)
- Random 4k Read: 40,000 IOPS
- Random 4k Write: 35,000 IOPS

The Read time is up there with all the fast SSDs. Although the Write speed is a bit lower, the Read speed is the main importance for most users. Plus, Crucial SSDs are extremely reliable. If you read reviews about the OCZ drives, a lot of users experience a lot of problems. I read something like their last 3 launches have had problems which meant the user had to totally wipe the hard drive to resolve it.
 
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Wozza63

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Craigsup said:
- Sequential Read (up to): 550MB/sec (SATA 6Gb/s)
- Sequential Write (up to): 220MB/sec (SATA 6Gb/s)
- Random 4k Read: 40,000 IOPS
- Random 4k Write: 35,000 IOPS

The Read time is up there with all the fast SSDs. Although the Write speed is a bit lower, the Read speed is the main importance for most users. Plus, Crucial SSDs are extremely reliable. If you read reviews about the OCZ drives, a lot of users experience a lot of problems. I read something like their last 3 launches have had problems which meant the user had to totally wipe the hard drive to resolve it.
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Yes, you are right, PCS used to sell OCZ SSDs but they had so many problems with them they switched to Kingston

If you want the most reliable, Intel is the way to go
 
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nipplepie

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Possible options:
Corsair 180GB Force 3 £135
Crucial M4 256GB (Currently bidding for it lol) but wont pay more than £140
Intel 330 180GB £140
or just save £ and get Crucial M4 128GB for £83, but I know I will fill it up :(
 
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Wozza63

Biblical Poster
You'll be fine as long as you put games on your other hard drive and all media files you'll be fine

Of my 120gb, i have 12.7GB free, and I have Origin installed on my SSD, which includes Crysis 2, BF3, Sims 3, Fifa 12, and Burnout, all pretty large files, and I manage
 
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nipplepie

Bronze Level Poster
Wozza365 said:
You'll be fine as long as you put games on your other hard drive and all media files you'll be fine

Of my 120gb, i have 12.7GB free, and I have Origin installed on my SSD, which includes Crysis 2, BF3, Sims 3, Fifa 12, and Burnout, all pretty large files, and I manage
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Nice. You know how for HDDs it's advised to keep around 20% of the space free, so it performs better. Is that the same for an SSD?

I will have a lot of games tho: CoD4, MW3, Diablo3, CS1.6/Source/GO, L4D2, ME3, Borderlands, others that I play once a month.
I can sum up 80GB of games. Then plus the software I will want to run on the SSD, photoshop, sony vegas 10, Word/Excel etc + Win7 installation space + space not to bottle up.
 
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Wozza63

Biblical Poster
nipplepie said:
Nice. You know how for HDDs it's advised to keep around 20% of the space free, so it performs better. Is that the same for an SSD?

I will have a lot of games tho: CoD4, MW3, Diablo3, CS1.6/Source/GO, L4D2, ME3, Borderlands, others that I play once a month.
I can sum up 80GB of games. Then plus the software I will want to run on the SSD, photoshop, sony vegas 10, Word/Excel etc + Win7 installation space + space not to bottle up.
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Do you not have another hard drive? Put a 250GB Scorpio Black in or a slightly bigger one, that would relieve stress from the SSD filling up

And Ive never heard of that but as far as I know, these kinda things aren't true with SSDs, Hard drives have slightly different read times depending on whether the data is on the inside or outside of the hard disk, as SSDs are just tonnes of little pockets of data, it doesn't matter
 
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