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@Grinty yeah, but there's a reason old french chef's pans are copper! speed! :) (specific heat and delta T are two separate variables)

see? we're all learning when we open our minds to the possibilities. @Grinty i believe what he means directly relates to my Q=m cp delta T. the higher the mass, the slower the change in temperature.

still going on, eh Scott? :LOL: "the AIO will be better..." yeah, for you.

this thread is maturing like a fine wine

a'ight, now we're getting nerdy, i like it! :) really love your detailed response @Scott no apology necessary @Grinty i hate to be that guy, but i did in the initial post state my prejudicial views on water cooling, and gave you my reasons why, and said i'm stubbornly not changing my mind...

foolish? "logic"? harsh. i'm done for the night. i enjoyed our back and forths though, and once again would like to thank you for your input. i might be in and out over the coming weeks, i'll be harvesting more wisdom from other threads until i pull the trigger (though i think you've made it...

water also has a heat soak point. jus' sayin'. if your water's 65C, it's not going to be very efficient cooling your 70-odd C die. we could talk about the pros and cons of each all day, and neither of us would be wrong. but i still disagree with your "better is measured". it's like saying...

@Scott "better" is subjective :) I'll also note that there is a distinct direction to the airflow, it's not all just getting bandied about the case (except the GPU with non rear exhaust... i kind of wish that the nvidia cards PCS sold were the founder's editions and not the palit/zotac...

@Scott "Premium drives will generally last substantially longer than the non-premium drives." A top notch point, sir. with my experience though, all my SSDs have lasted long beyond their useful lifespan before they get replaced with higher capacity. granted, i'm not constantly re-writing them...

@Scott Oh, i totally forgot to mention that the case will be on its side (mobo down, cooler up), so mounting pressure won't be an issue. again, left out for brevity. may i also take umbridge with your house fan analogy? there's no intake and exhaust in that system. that would be more akin if...

@Scott i agree with you for the most part. i forgot to specify that i was theoretically comparing the PCS m.2 vs the evo or firecuda (rather than SATA SSD). real world, you might lose a second or two of your life loading premiere or civ. is that worth the extra £55 or £85? endlessly debatable...

thanks again @Scott! my accusations of skim reading were a little tongue-in-cheek, i hope that came across :) i've adjusted my build for 2 x 512GB PCS M.2s, i'm used to having a single 480GB SSD for OS/progs/games, so i'm fairly confident over double that capacity will do me for the...

you might even be fine to go with the PCS M.2 and save yourself that extra £55. don't take my word for it though, i have zero clout on this board :) search youtube for "Linus Tech Tips Does a Faster SSD Matter for Gamers?? - $h!t Manufacturers Say" - an informative side by side blind test of...

forgive me for disagreeing with a moderator, but i'm reliably informed that there's very little tangible difference with OS speed and game load times with the fastest NVMe drives, and they're aimed more at the larger-size file transfer market like 4k video editors who regularly need to move e.g...

absolutely ditch the b450 for the new b550. literally launched two days ago. search youtube for b550 and you'll find various 5-20 minute informative videos on the subject. the rest of my input would be flaky opinions at best (outrageous CPU in the balance, for example), but i'm pretty sure...

Thanks for your input Scott! and thanks for reading the whole thing :) (at least skimming it, ha!) As I said, the budget is kind of arbitrary, i feel comfortable spending ~1200, but could go higher, trying not to burn a hole in the pocket, but i guess the actual ceiling would be, i dunno, 1500...

I found this thread informative and interesting, thanks to all of you. spydertracks: thanks for the article links, i too didn't really know that was a thing until now! i've been messing around with computers since 1990 also, and you still learn something new every day. scrimper: i wouldn't be...

PART 2 Case Coolermaster s600. Aesthetically the most pleasing to me. weird, i know, but i dislike RGB and windowed panels. in fact, the closer to the monolith from 2001 space odyssey, the better (that is to say, a plain black box). You could probably convince me to switch to the...

TL;DR I know there's a lot of text (sorry, not sorry). it's my reasoning behind component choices. if you'd like to give your opinion on a certain aspect of the build, please read the relevant section first (keywords in bold). Please also feel free to read the whole thing though :)...