Advice on specs needed

[Deleted member 17413]

Primarily his budget. a 5800X would also be suited and a 5000 series CPU will give him more than a 3000 series.

 

[Ash_]

You're right! Just checked a Corsair website: 10x 120mm or 4x 140mm.

5000D AIRFLOW Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX PC Case — Black

The CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW is a mid-tower ATX case that shows off your PC, and not its cables. Hidden cable management and an airflow-optimized front panel make building a clean, cool PC easy, with two included CORSAIR AirGuide fans.

www.corsair.com

Indeed, it has 3 360mm radiator mounts, front, side (bit stupid), roof. Then a rear exhaust. Either way... i think 6 fans is optimal

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Yeah that was my first thought fans fans fans but have come to understand that as you say setup is just as important that is why i was liking the 680X more as my thinking is the more room inside the case the better i have plenty of room for the larger case so that not a problem.

Thank you for your advice an help. The 32GB RAM is so the system doesn't have to even work anywhere near its limits in the hopes to extend it's lifespan or is that thinking miles off the actual facts?

Going for 32Gb over 16Gb so you under utilise RAM isnt quite how it works... its not going to buy you much in the way of lifespan in the same way overspecing a PSU unit would.

If the budget is there, and you are going to play things like MSFS2020 then theres some benefit to it, otherwise it will just sit there idle.

 

[Ash_]

Ram is the worst to overspec, as it is so easy to add more, if you really need. In 3 years, maybe you will need 32gb, but buy it then.

As for a 5000D Airflow... ML120’s would be my choice (very high performance and quiet. But you’d need a commander node, which i’m not sure comes with the corsair platinum line).

Honestly not worth the wait time.

 

[MarkPoole1]

Going for 32Gb over 16Gb so you under utilise RAM isnt quite how it works... its not going to buy you much in the way of lifespan in the same way overspecing a PSU unit would.

If the budget is there, and you are going to play things like MSFS2020 then theres some benefit to it, otherwise it will just sit there idle.

Ok so it not like i thought it would thought it would share workload budget is there but if it going to sit idle might just drop it down thank you i will think about that.

I have a question about storage I'm thinking 500Gb M.2 for OS then a 2Tb M.2 for my games that need fast response times but I'm considering a large Ironwolf HDD for my games that don't need the speed as i have read that if it not handling the OS an standard HDD would be fine is that correct?

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Wouldnt touch Iron wolf.... the barracudas are actually better/long lived.
If you want say 4TB, take two 2Tb barracudas for the same speeds an Ironwolf would give you.

I dropped the main games drive to a 1Tb...which is realistically maybe around 10 modern games? If you are going to be loading LOTS then a 2Tb is good, just need to think about whether you are gonna use it or not. latest M.2 drives are not cheap and in general, all prices are high right now, which is why I tried to spec whats of use/need and put remaining money into core components like the CPU or a more premium case like the 500D SE which then benefits all parts inside it.

The 3K specs here would normally be four or five hundred less in normal circumstances.....

 

[MarkPoole1]

Ok good to know regarding Ironwolf the review i read have been positive when it comes to storage 500Gb M.2 for the OS and a 1Tb M.2 for my faster games which i only have a handful of most of my games don't need to be super fast but i do have a good collection so a good size storage for those is what I'm leaning towards.

Also don't intend to order until December/January as what to let things settle down plus try increase my knowledge base i'm just trying to nail down the final build.

 

[Ash_]

If you fill your ssd it will become very slow. So a 1TB will realistically hold say 700GB effectively (COD is 220GB).

I have a 1TB though as i only play a few games and i am in the habit of deleting ones not in use. If you just want them at the ready... 2TB is the way to go... but 1TB is a lot cheaper.

 

[MarkPoole1]

If you fill your ssd it will become very slow. So a 1TB will realistically hold say 700GB effectively (COD is 220GB).

I have a 1TB though as i only play a few games and i am in the habit of deleting ones not in use. If you just want them at the ready... 2TB is the way to go... but 1TB is a lot cheaper.

Ok good to know tho i think only games i want on the M.2 would be planetside 2,War thunder,Battlefield and Arma 3 so yeah if that is the case might need a 2TB to give that breathing room.

 

[MarkPoole1]

So edited build sitting at this currently a little over budget but livable.

Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 680X RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
SATURDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £3,070.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/0CX!E3Y9wx/

 

[Ash_]

If it is purely gaming, i wouldn’t bother with the 5900X. It’s expensive, runs hotter, in bad stocks and in gaming terms... offers nothing more than the 5800X. In fact, i’d go as far as to say... it could potentially be worse than the 5800X, as the 5800X will run cooler and maintain boosts.

My 5800X got 108% of benchmark test (top 95 percentile), likely due to being so well cooled.

So to get you under budget, drop the 5900X (£300 for no gaming gains).

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Knocks about £300 off the price as well... Like I said, main reason for picking a 5900X over a 5800X was budget allowed it on the previous specs.

 

[MarkPoole1]

Thank you so much for all the help with this build i certainly feel more confident ordering this when the time comes. Any issues or improvements you can see/think of when it comes to keeping it cool or running quiet or anything else i might have over looked?

 

[Ash_]

The only way to make it run cooler, is a different case and different fans. A 4000D or 5000D airflow with ML120 fans (your cooler has 2 ML140s) would run cooler and as they are cooler, lower rpm and therefore quieter.

I’m not too sure on how the 680X sounds, although i believe it uses the weaker and louder LL120 (maybe SP120) fans, but at that price, i’d imagine it has pretty good acoustic properties.

 

[MarkPoole1]

The only way to make it run cooler, is a different case and different fans. A 4000D or 5000D airflow with ML120 fans (your cooler has 2 ML140s) would run cooler and as they are cooler, lower rpm and therefore quieter.

I’m not too sure on how the 680X sounds, although i believe it uses the weaker and louder LL120 (maybe SP120) fans, but at that price, i’d imagine it has pretty good acoustic properties.

Might have to review the case at later date as selecting the 5000D won't allow me to config any extra fans. The 680X has had some good review vids on Youtube and good reviews on websites tho seeing as the current build after switching out the 5900X is at around £2700 so may look into those higher end cases.

 

[Ash_]

You would need to source and fit your own ML fans and they are quite expensive, especially if a commander node doesn’t come with the AIO. Any of the cases i listed earlier though are great choices.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

I think a commander pro (so fan control and RGB) is about £60, ML120 are about £25 each (obviously price changes a little depending on actual model/RGB etc) so the savings from dropping to a 5800X would cover a controller and several fans and still come in under £3K total.

 

[MarkPoole1]

You would need to source and fit your own ML fans and they are quite expensive, especially if a commander node doesn’t come with the AIO. Any of the cases i listed earlier though are great choices.

Only problem with sourcing and fitting them myself is i wouldn't feel confident doing that. Might have to contact/ring PCS regarding the 5000D as like you said an like I'm sure a review vid said it can support something like 10 fans i think it was.

Corsair 5000D Airflow
Case Type:	Full-Tower
Material:	Steel, plastic, and tempered glass
Weight:	N/A
Slots:	7+2
Drive Bays:	2x Internal 2.5/3.5" 4x Internal 2.5"
Motherboard Form Factors:	Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX, ATX, and E-ATX (305 x 277 mm)
Dimensions:	520 x 245 x 520 mm
Front Door/Cover:	N/A
Front Fans:	3x 120 or 2x 140 mm (1x 120 mm fan pre-installed)
Rear Fans:	1x 120 mm (1x 120 mm fan pre-installed)
Top Fans:	3x 120/2x 140 mm (optional)
Bottom Fans:	N/A
Side Fans:	3x 120 mm
Front Radiator:	360 mm / 280 mm
Rear Radiator:	120 mm
Top Radiator:	360 mm / 280 mm
Bottom Radiator:	N/A
Side Radiator:	360 mm / 240 mm
I/O:	1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C 2x USB 3.0 1x Headphone 1x Microphone
Fan/LED Controller:	PWM fan hub
Compatibility:	CPU Cooler: 170 mm GPU: 420 mm PSU: 225 mm

 

[Deleted member 17413]

The 5000D has an obscene amount of fans, three at front, two in top, one at back, i think two on the underside and then three at the side (towards the front).

The word overkill doesnt really do it justice... it also comes with fans that arent commercially available atm, I think they are due for release in a few months. Personally, i'd take the 680X or 500D SE, both would suit your build very well and I think look far nicer.

The 500D SE also already comes with a commander pro...

 

[Ash_]

500D SE is a very nice and premium case and pcs gives a very good price on it.