Any thoughts on this build?

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LukeBrigginshaw965

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Hi new member here, just ordered this PC and thought I would post for any thoughts.

I have had people tell me its a decent build and more than powerful enough to play games like Eve Online, Total War, COD WARzone on max settings, then others who are far more into their tech (Looking at all the micro stats) there are flaws with the processor and I should have gone AMD. Its led to confusion to say the least.

Eventually I will SLI with two RTx 2060 Supers :)

Any thoughts would be most welcome.

Case
PCS GENESIS G1B CASE + SD CARD READER
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-9600K (3.7 GHz) 9 MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x84GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 120 2.5" SSD, (up to 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i V2 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
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FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
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Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
 
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keithbeaks

Enthusiast
People here will recommend an AMD build for sure and also I've read recently there is little point to dual GPU.

Be prepared to cancel and start again
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

Active member
So would you recommend the same set up just with an AMD processor and suitable motherboard?

I'll cancel tonight and re order if it is as simple as that.
 
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Scott

Scott

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LukeBrigginshaw965 said:
Any reason why?

I used to build PC's back in the day but its been like 15 years so I feel a little out of touch with technology now.
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The people who have mentioned AMD are the ones to listen to. They will likely also tell you that SLI is a thing of the past and not really supported. Most people would opt for a single card solution. A 2080 Super would lay waste to SLI 2060s in most situations.

You would be far better cancelling and following up with a recommendation request before hitting the button again. The case selected is probably the worst part of all, it's very important to put all the nice shiny tech in a nice home to keep it safe :)

Have a read here, this will be quick catchup for you:

Desktop Building Guide - April 2023

A "quick" reference guide to building the perfect system. This is the sort of logic I go through when suggesting systems, so thought I would jot it down on the page. Clearly this is an ever changing suite of options but I'll update periodically as my default go-to's change... I'm noticing the...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk
 
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keithbeaks

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Scott

Scott

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LukeBrigginshaw965 said:
So would you recommend the same set up just with an AMD processor and suitable motherboard?

I'll cancel tonight and re order if it is as simple as that.
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Would depend on the following:

What's the budget?
What monitor is the rig being paired with? Either resolution and refresh or just the model number would be fine.
Is it purely for gaming on the aforementioned games? Any other uses?
 
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WhiskyMac

Bronze Level Poster
Worth checking out Scott's build guide and his different spec options at the bottom. Particularly: Excellent Mid-Level 1440p £1,199* - https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/mXndDgqCNn/

On your build - Like that case is not worth it with only one fan etc.

For an AMD build around same budget you could look at something like: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/uUuaHKXGp8/ as you have the cash to get the Samsung M2 drive.

You actually only need the 3300x processor per Scott's example but its out of stock at moment.
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

Active member
Man I thought this was going to be easy and I was really confident in selecting all the gear to go in it. Now I am really unsettled by it all.

Budget: £1200/£1300

Screen: For the time being its a 40" HD TV until I get some decent MIS curved monitors (this is probably a good few months off yet). But If the system is good enough then you should be able to plug any monitor in and it will be good. Model number EU40H5000AKXXU.


Use: Playing Total war games on max graphics (mainly old ones and 3 kingdoms), playing Eve Online with two or more clients open, COD Warzone if I don't want to play on the PS4. Any new games that come out from Paradox. I literally only use my PC's for gamming and browsing the internet. No streaming or developing of anything.

Currently have a laptop: MSI Leopard GP72 with a 3rd Gen i7. It does well but its not the best when running dual clients and now I own my own home with an office I want a desktop again.
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

Active member
How about this? Using the link WHISKYMAC has just posted?

Case
FRACTAL FOCUS G BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
500GB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 120 2.5" SSD, (up to 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H80i V2 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
CoolerMaster Devastator III Combo Keyboard and Mouse
 
Scott

Scott

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It's just the way it goes unfortunately, things chop and change so fast that even being out for a matter of months can throw you off kilter.

Last year I built a monster Intel build knowing fine well that a "storm was coming". I don't regret my decision as my old system was wanting, but if I was to build now it would be an AMD, absolutely no doubt.

For your build, here is what I am thinking....

3600 - 3300X would do you fine but they are selling out everywhere. The 3600 definitely won't hurt with the extra cores for the likes of total war etc so it's a fair shout
1660 Super - The 2060 Super is WAYYYY more than you need for your TV and it's VERY likely to be underpowered for any new monitors that you buy in the coming months. With the money squirrelled away and added to over the coming months you can get yourself the next generation GPU to match whichever monitor set you end up going with. The 3060 is going to make the 2060 Super look silly for very similar cash (as an example).

On top of that, you want a very stable foundation. Something modular that you can happily add to over the next few years. The B550 motherboard is going to be able to support the next generation of AMD and hopefully the generation after that. It's a no brainer. With a case, PSU, RAM and reasonable storage to suit, you should get 10 years out of this although it'll be like triggers brush by the end up.

There are a couple of things to think about. If you have a system with Windows on it that you can transfer, you could save around £90 at the moment. That would be a tidy sum to put away. If you are re-purposing your current systems though it might not be worthwhile.

The 1660 Super is MORE than enough for your TV. You may want to save further with the 1650 Super. With your games in mind I don't think they would mind too much and you would only be dialling the settings down to sensible levels anyway. This is up to you if you want to spend the extra. In your shoes I would probably have my eyes on next year with the monitors and GPU bump so would be happy to "make do" with the 1650 Super for now, turn the settings to moderate and salivate at the thought of 1440p goodness next year.

Case
CORSAIR 275R AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00002]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
TIMED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND - MON-FRI (BEFORE 2PM)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 18 to 20 working days
Price: £1,094.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/HDtFxqGhBe/
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

Active member
The only question in reply to that is getting a HDD over an SSD as the primary storage device going to make any difference?

I always assumed that SSD was preferable to HDD.
 
Scott

Scott

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LukeBrigginshaw965 said:
The only question in reply to that is getting a HDD over an SSD as the primary storage device going to make any difference?

I always assumed that SSD was preferable to HDD.
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Check below the standard storage and you'll see the M2 selected. This is around 5-10 times faster than an SSD ;)
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

Active member
I did see that lol, and thank you so much for the guidance. I am just trying to get my head around why HDD rather than SSD.

I assume the operating system would go on the M2 SSD, so does it make much difference to have the HDD instead of the SSD as the 1st storage device?
 
Scott

Scott

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It's budget related. If you want a secondary SSD/M2 drive then you could select another 500GB PCS M2 drive. I personally wouldn't waste a drive on 500GB though, I would want at least 1TB. This is the reason I went with the conventional storage as you get WAY more for your money.

If you wanted to swap it out with a 1TB drive then you would be fine. SSD isn't ideal but with the PCS M2 drives being out of stock it's really the only financially sensible way of doing it.
 
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LukeBrigginshaw965

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Thanks for your help on this. Definitely helped in making my decision. I took all your advise but opted for the 2060 super.

looking forward to getting the machine and watching all my games get a massive upgrade in everything 😂
 
Scott

Scott

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LukeBrigginshaw965 said:
Thanks for your help on this. Definitely helped in making my decision. I took all your advise but opted for the 2060 super.

looking forward to getting the machine and watching all my games get a massive upgrade in everything 😂
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It's a waste of money but it's your money to waste :)

Keep in mind, it's been said numerous times. The 2060 is too powerful for your monitor, not powerful enough for the next level of monitor and the next generation cards are out in September.
 
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