Bought a PC with RTX 2070 super, got RTX 2070 Super Mini

[ASHENTI]

Just a heads up for anyone waiting on a build with a 2060 Super. My order is being picked from the warehouse today and its a 2060 Super Zotac Dual Fan in stock. I asked if it was the mini version and was informed ITS NOT the mini version.

 

[062876344]

I believe that the 2080 super (what im getting) is the full size, 3 fan, zotac card. Not sure if its a reference PCB or what... Hope its a better card than the FE.

 

[Jonnychron]

Was yours the £1400 one from currys? I've contacted both PCS and Currys. Seemed like a great deal at the time. Runs great to be honest just a little bit put out and feel lied to.

Yeah it was the same one mate and i havent had a email back from pcs as of yet but my card is 100% the mini 2070 super,
also was playing cod lastnight and my pc shot up to temps of 76-83 from both gpu/cpu this is at the reccomended settings so just keep a eye on temps when playing for long times

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Yeah it was the same one mate and i havent had a email back from pcs as of yet but my card is 100% the mini 2070 super,
also was playing cod lastnight and my pc shot up to temps of 76-83 from both gpu/cpu this is at the reccomended settings so just keep a eye on temps when playing for long times

Theres nothing wrong with those temps? its when it goes into the 90's you need to start thinking about it.
COD is also a AAA title right? so heavy use...the GPU is dealing with it just fine from what you say.

I spent 12 hours straight playing games yesterday and i have a 2070 super mini on my build from PCS... newish title but not a AAA (Torchlight III)
Temps never went over 65... with 12 hours continual use...

People getting hung up on it being a mini... why? The price reflects the card thats used...if you want a high spec card, add another £200 plus to your build price... The general stock options are the cheaper options, its what they are there for. If you wanted A Grade then you could of ordered it at the time (if direct from PCS). As for currys/PCWorld...they will have gotten given a complete spec list......its PCWorld/Currys that are awful at giving accurate info.

Add to that, buying a high spec 20 series GPU atm is not a great idea, given that the new ones come out in a few months so the prices will all drop. If it really means that much,. wait a few months and then order, you will be able to get things like EVGA or Strix models significantly cheaper than they are now.

Or, if like me you plan is to upgrade over the coming years... give it a year and buy the new GPU's coming out, that way you can pick exactly what you want.

 

[Jonnychron]

Not saying they are to worry about i am just saying a heads up to anyone that will be playing for long times on AAA+ games that the temps will climb high and to keep a eye on it. it would of kept going past the 80 mark if i kept playing. i paid for what was advertised and did not get that so was letting people know. if i wanted to spend more money i would of got the better card.

 

[Deleted member 17413]

Have you installed the firestorm utility?
It will allow additional control over fans/temps etc

 

[SpyderTracks]

Not saying they are to worry about i am just saying a heads up to anyone that will be playing for long times on AAA+ games that the temps will climb high and to keep a eye on it. it would of kept going past the 80 mark if i kept playing. i paid for what was advertised and did not get that so was letting people know. if i wanted to spend more money i would of got the better card.

I think the point is anything under about 86c on a 2070 Super, be it mini or full size is extremely good!

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with the 2070 Super Mini card, I don’t know where these scare stories are stemming from? You’ll get exactly the same performance as from a full size card.

In fact as it’s factory overclocked, it performs better than most full sized cards. It will perform slightly less than full sized overclocked cards at the same clocks.

Whoever stated it performs worse and hotter is very inaccurate.

Zotac Gaming RTX 2070 OC Mini 8GB Review - KitGuru

Zotac is well known for producing monster-sized graphics cards within its AMP! Extreme line up, but

www.kitguru.net

If the card is overheating, that suggests the case isn't suitable for the build or the airflow is being obstructed somewhere. That card specifically will cool a lot better than most full sized cards.

They release these SFF cards after the initial releases once they're used to the new architecture. They're custom PCB's, they're actually really good cards.

As almost every girlfriend I've ever had has always said, size doesn't matter 🤪

 

[Manning.David]

Currys failed to deliver my replacement today. A rep on the phone told me I should never have been told it would be replaced.

PC Specialist replied saying it's "similar" to a founders edition card and is standard practise when they have stock issues.

Looks like I'm keeping something I don't want.

Firstly, if they don't have the stock to sell they shouldn't pass off something cheaper as the same thing. The system was pre-built, there is absolutely no reason that the mini varient shouldn't have been listed on the spec sheet unless to sweep the fact under the rug.

Secondly, telling a customer it's almost as good as what was listed upon purchase is a slap in the face at best. These are dirty tactics I would have taken for granted from Currys but I'm surprised at PC Specialist.

Just a poor show from all parties really, a fine story to tell anyone I know looking to buy a new PC too.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Currys failed to deliver my replacement today. A rep on the phone told me I should never have been told it would be replaced.

PC Specialist replied saying it's "similar" to a founders edition card and is standard practise when they have stock issues.

Looks like I'm keeping something I don't want.

Firstly, if they don't have the stock to sell they shouldn't pass off something cheaper as the same thing. The system was pre-built, there is absolutely no reason that the mini varient shouldn't have been listed on the spec sheet unless to sweep the fact under the rug.

Secondly, telling a customer it's almost as good as what was listed upon purchase is a slap in the face at best. These are dirty tactics I would have taken for granted from Currys but I'm surprised at PC Specialist.

Just a poor show from all parties really, a fine story to tell anyone I know looking to buy a new PC too.

Your issue is with curry’s not PCS. PCS clearly state how they supply GPU’s. It’s not their fault that curry’s don’t do the same. If you’re that convinced they suggested it was a full sized card, then just return it stating that it’s not, I don’t see the problem.

As said previously, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that GPU, it’s a great card. As the review above clearly shows.

It’s like saying the later console releases are worse because they’re slimmer profile. It’s exactly the same internals, just on a smaller footprint as they’ve managed to maximise the design after years of further development.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see what any of this is about. If you wanted such exact components why on earth did you buy a pre built from curry’s in the first place???

I just don’t get it.

 

[ubuysa]

Looks like I'm keeping something I don't want.

Why don't you want it? Just because it says 'mini'? @SpyderTracks, who knows what he's talking about, has just pointed out that it's as good as (and in some respects even better) than the full size card.

Firstly, if they don't have the stock to sell they shouldn't pass off something cheaper as the same thing. The system was pre-built, there is absolutely no reason that the mini varient shouldn't have been listed on the spec sheet unless to sweep the fact under the rug.

They're not passing anything off as anything it's not. You bought a PC advertised as having an RTX 2070 Super and you got a a PC that contained and RTX 2070 Super!

Secondly, telling a customer it's almost as good as what was listed upon purchase is a slap in the face at best. These are dirty tactics I would have taken for granted from Currys but I'm surprised at PC Specialist.

It IS what was listed upon purchase. What dirty tactics? You got what was advertised.

Just a poor show from all parties really, a fine story to tell anyone I know looking to buy a new PC too.

If you can demonstrate that your mini variant offers significantly less performance that the full sized version you might be able to argue that it's a 'poor show', but from what @SpyderTracks has just said it would seem that this is not the case. In this post @moosEh, a PCS employee, is clear that even if you order an RTX 2070 Super in a custom build there is no guarantee which manufacturer's card will be fitted. Whether or not you get the mini variant is no different. You got an RTX 2070 as advertised.

In any case, as @SpyderTracks has pointed out, any beef you think you have is with Currys/PCWorld and not with PCS.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Furthermore, the claim that it’s cheaper than other full size cards is wholly inaccurate also.

its currently trading around the £480 mark, exactly the same as the MSI Ventus or the Gigabyte Windforce.

if you can provide sources for what you’re claiming, specifically the following:

it runs hotter than a full size card
its cheaper than a full size card
it doesn’t perform as well as a standard full sized card.

then I will look into it further, but quite frankly, from everything I’ve looked into, each one of those claims is factually incorrect.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Lastly I just want to say I see a lot of people have immediately jumped onto the bandwagon with this disinformation.

There is a lot of disinformation on the internet. It’s important not to take something you read as gold without looking into it yourself and verifying the claims made.

As Moderators, we should have stepped on this thread sooner before it got so out of hand, but I urge all of you who just accepted what was being said here to really consider that you’ve willingly taken in disinformation from someone who either was misinformed through ignorance, or, and this is always a possibility on any internet source, is willingly trying to disinform for their own purposes, weather that be to hurt the company or just trolling to get an empassioned response.

For a claim such as this, you really should be researching it yourself. Every single review for the card that I read was very positive, prices were all consistent based on a brief google, and reviews always contain benchmarks so you can verify performance. Took me 10 minutes to verify this was all nonsense. Rely on your own intelligence and learn how to fact check, and if you make any claims, always provide sources so people can see where you’re coming from.

 

[LukeBrigginshaw965]

When I asked they said it would be one of two (Zotac or Paliti), and that 2070 super is a beast no mater the size.

I would have liked a 3 fan card, just for the aesthetics as it looks chunky and powerful.

The mini is a fantastic card and packs a right punch. It's looks good to boot with a pretty awesome led logo.

The only thing I have noticed is that the fps has dropped from 130+ fps on Warzone dowm to 100is - 110fps. I haven't changed any settings on the game or the machine itself so I haven't a clue what is causing that.

 

[SpyderTracks]

When I asked they said it would be one of two (Zotac or Paliti), and that 2070 super is a beast no mater the size.

I would have liked a 3 fan card, just for the aesthetics as it looks chunky and powerful.

The mini is a fantastic card and packs a right punch. It's looks good to boot with a pretty awesome led logo.

The only thing I have noticed is that the fps has dropped from 130+ fps on Warzone dowm to 100is - 110fps. I haven't changed any settings on the game or the machine itself so I haven't a clue what is causing that.

Best to start your own thread if you want help troubleshooting.

 

[Manning.David]

Frankly people who are saying it's okay to say the mini is the same as the full size card are coming off as being part of some kind of fanboy club.

There's a reason it's a mini and not the full size card. Like I said, if the advert (and I checked PCS website, no mention) said it was a mini I'd have spent more to get the full size.

I wouldn't be happy if someone sold me an Audi A3 hatch when I was shown an A3 saloon in the pics, even if the description only said A3.

Yeah, I shouldn't have expected a company that prides itself on being customer focussed to be honest about what's in the system. I should have expected them to act like Dell and put the cheapest card possible in the machine at my expense.

That's business I guess.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Frankly people who are saying it's okay to say the mini is the same as the full size card are coming off as being part of some kind of fanboy club.

Why's that? Justification? If you took the time to read the review I linked you will see that it performs exactly the same as a full size card. Look at any review on the card, it's free information, educate yourself rather than blindly bashing a perfectly good product.

There's a reason it's a mini and not the full size card. Like I said, if the advert (and I checked PCS website, no mention) said it was a mini I'd have spent more to get the full size.

But you bought it from Curry's so what PCS say has no relevance, your issue is with Curry's advertising, not PCS. And the reason it's mini has already been covered before. You bought a prebuilt PC and not from PCS, you didn't have a say in what card you could have, you accepted what was advertised. Again, this smacks to me of trolling. You're bad mouthing PCS when you didn't even buy the product from them.

I wouldn't be happy if someone sold me an Audi A3 hatch when I was shown an A3 saloon in the pics, even if the description only said A3.

Again, this is an issue with Curry's, you need to notify them of this. I'm guessing they advertised an Nvidia RTX2070 Super which is exactly what you got.

Yeah, I shouldn't have expected a company that prides itself on being customer focussed to be honest about what's in the system. I should have expected them to act like Dell and put the cheapest card possible in the machine at my expense.

Again, as previously stated, the card performs exactly the same as a full size card, and costs exactly the same. If you want to link to your sources for this, I will entertain it further, but frankly, this is just inaccurate.

If you continue on this disinformation tactic without taking on board the feedback you're receiving, then it looks an awful lot like trolling. I'm issuing you a warning. Your issue is with Curry's where you bought it as you bought it off their advertisement, if you're unhappy with it, you need to take it up with them. You are fully within your rights to return it to Curry's and order a custom PC from here or elsewhere.

 

[ASHENTI]

Mountains and Mole Hills come to mind. If you bought a 2070 Super and got a 1660 Super I can understand the argument. The fact you got a 2070 Super when you ordered a 2070 Super seems perfectly reasonable to me.

 

[ubuysa]

@Manning.David has made his views very clear, it's been clearly pointed out that there is little if any difference between the full size card and the mini. It also very clear that Curry's are the seller and that if @Manning.David wishes to pursue this further he needs to deal with them. Whilst PCS are the manufacturer in this instance they are in no way responsible for the way in which Curry's advertise their products.

I see no additional benefit to anyone from continuing with this thread because it's not a PCS problem. I'm therefore locking it.

@Manning.David is of course welcome to start new threads if there are any other issues that he'd like our help with.