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Elduderino

Elduderino

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Hello :) I hope it's OK to ask multiple questions here at once. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

First, my priority is to keep temperatures down and hopefully keep the machine running reasonably quiet.
For this reason, I'm going for the: "FRACTAL DEFINE 7 XL BLACK QUIET TOWER CASE" which I'm going to pair with the Ryzen 7800x3D (as It appears low wattage and runs cool)
I understand this case comes with 3 140mm fans and if I'm not mistaken has room for 8 120mm or 6 140mm more fans. Do you think it would be worthwhile to have more fans installed? will I see a noticeable performance boost/temperature decrease? and if so, are any of the extra fans listed on PC SPECIALIST better than others to limit extra noise? I've read brands like Noctua are good for this purpose but I don't see them listed. Which would be a good alternative?

I'm also trying to work out which CPU cooler would be ideal. So far it sounds like the 360mm frostflow cooler would suffice but I'm not sure if it will fit this case as the dimensions are "566 mm x 240 mm x 604 mm". Apparently mid sized towers can fit this CPU cooler so I assume I will be ok?

I am also unsure as to which motherboard to get. I want to get a DDR5-compatible version to upgrade my SSD in the future. I just don't know whether to get the ASUS TUF x670e or the ROG Strix x670e-a. Any pointers here would be very helpful! from what I understand it has more USB slots?
I'll be running this machine with a 4060ti. In the near future, I'll hopefully upgrade to the 4090. Do you a 1000w PSU is overkill for this setup?

Thanks for taking a look :)

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-overclocked/4Y47RZbta9/
 
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Elduderino

Elduderino

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I also wonder if it will be possible to manually control the fans that are included in the Fractal Define 7 case?
 
sck451

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In particular:
  • What's the PC for?
  • What's the budget?
  • What monitor do you have?
  • Can you post a complete build including the green configuration link?
Much easier to answer your questions with a whole build and a budget in mind.
 
Elduderino

Elduderino

Member
sck451 said:
In particular:
  • What's the PC for?
  • What's the budget?
  • What monitor do you have?
  • Can you post a complete build including the green configuration link?
Much easier to answer your questions with a whole build and a budget in mind.
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No problem! thank you :)

Gaming. Video editing & AI Upscaling

£2500 max

LG C1

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Case
FRACTAL DEFINE 7 XL BLACK QUIET TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB ASUS TUF GEFORCE RTX 4070 OC EDITION - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 360 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
48 HOUR INSURED PALLET DELIVERY TO UK (MON-FRI, INC. HIGHLANDS & ISLANDS)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,273.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-overclocked/4Y47RZbta9/
 
sck451

sck451

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I think you can do much better, especially for that excellent display. But I'd spend a little less on case and motherboard and to go for a less expensive manufacturer of graphics card. I'd also change from the overclocking option to the standard AM5 tool. And I'd reconfigure your storage to get separation of boot and main storage devices, and to get more value for money.

There's an element of compromise here. The CPU is excellent for gaming but not the best for video editing. That's more reliant on the graphics card these days, though, so that's not necessarily a concern unless you're doing big projects for professional purposes.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY 2 LIGHT TEMPERED GLASS
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,486.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/69SUfBVETg/
 
Elduderino

Elduderino

Member
sck451 said:
I think you can do much better, especially for that excellent display. But I'd spend a little less on case and motherboard and to go for a less expensive manufacturer of graphics card. I'd also change from the overclocking option to the standard AM5 tool. And I'd reconfigure your storage to get separation of boot and main storage devices, and to get more value for money.

There's an element of compromise here. The CPU is excellent for gaming but not the best for video editing. That's more reliant on the graphics card these days, though, so that's not necessarily a concern unless you're doing big projects for professional purposes.

Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY 2 LIGHT TEMPERED GLASS
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4080 - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,486.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/69SUfBVETg/
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Hey, thanks for the advice!

I thought about going for an AMD GPU and I still may at this point.

Regarding the AM5 tool. Do you just mean configure a PC from the "AMD® RYZEN AM5 EXTREME COMPUTERS" option in the AMD configure section?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean about reconfiguring my storage. To avoid confusion I already own a few SSD's that I will be installing into this PC. If you were suggesting I keep one SSD (M.2) for boot and others for storage etc then I'll be doing just that.

Do you think 850w would suffice for this machine? I may get a 7800xt.

I'm also thinking of changing the fractal case to the 7000D for better cooling and as a kind of extra work surface.
 
sck451

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Elduderino said:
Hey, thanks for the advice!

I thought about going for an AMD GPU and I still may at this point.

Regarding the AM5 tool. Do you just mean configure a PC from the "AMD® RYZEN AM5 EXTREME COMPUTERS" option in the AMD configure section?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean about reconfiguring my storage. To avoid confusion I already own a few SSD's that I will be installing into this PC. If you were suggesting I keep one SSD (M.2) for boot and others for storage etc then I'll be doing just that.

Do you think 850w would suffice for this machine? I may get a 7800xt.

I'm also thinking of changing the fractal case to the 7000D for better cooling and as a kind of extra work surface.
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An AMD card is definitely an option. For a 120Hz 4K display I'd be looking at either the 7900 XT or the XTX though: the 7800 XT is really a 1440p card.

Yes that's the tool I mean. And it sounds like you have your storage sorted! Yes, that was exactly what I was recommending.

850W is probably enough. Personally I'd want "definitely enough" especially with the possibility of future upgrades.

The 7000D is massive! But if that's what you want...! Though I don't believe the cooling is significantly better than the Fractal case...
 
Elduderino

Elduderino

Member
sck451 said:
An AMD card is definitely an option. For a 120Hz 4K display I'd be looking at either the 7900 XT or the XTX though: the 7800 XT is really a 1440p card.

Yes that's the tool I mean. And it sounds like you have your storage sorted! Yes, that was exactly what I was recommending.

850W is probably enough. Personally I'd want "definitely enough" especially with the possibility of future upgrades.

The 7000D is massive! But if that's what you want...! Though I don't believe the cooling is significantly better than the Fractal case...
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The 7000D is indeed huge but I'm unsure!! I thought it was one of the best for cooling from what I've gathered so far. Are you comparing it to the Fractal Define 7 or the Meshify 2? I personally much prefer the aesthetics of the Fractal cases but I've read thermals could be an issue with the Define 7 and I assumed the Meshify 2 just wouldn't keep my hardware as cool given the smaller size and lack of fan space. I wish PC Specialists stocked the Meshify 2 XL! size isn't an issue and the extra surface area could be used as a small workspace. That being said my ultimate goal is for cool temps while not being too noisy (which hopefully shouldn't be an issue anyway with the 7800x3D)

I will take your suggestion and plump for the 1000w jobby!

cheers :)
 
sck451

sck451

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Elduderino said:
The 7000D is indeed huge but I'm unsure!! I thought it was one of the best for cooling from what I've gathered so far. Are you comparing it to the Fractal Define 7 or the Meshify 2? I personally much prefer the aesthetics of the Fractal cases but I've read thermals could be an issue with the Define 7 and I assumed the Meshify 2 just wouldn't keep my hardware as cool given the smaller size and lack of fan space. I wish PC Specialists stocked the Meshify 2 XL! size isn't an issue and the extra surface area could be used as a small workspace. That being said my ultimate goal is for cool temps while not being too noisy (which hopefully shouldn't be an issue anyway with the 7800x3D)

I will take your suggestion and plump for the 1000w jobby!

cheers :)
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I'd say that good airflow is much more important than how many fans you can fit in the case. The Meshify is the case I'd go for myself: it has plenty of room for fans and really good inherent airflow.

The XL and the 7000D are more extreme. Your build with a 7800X3D and a 4080 is not actually going to generate that much heat; it's not an extreme scenario at all.
 
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