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Hippy

Active member
Hi, very light gaming whilst on holiday! Would this laptop run Counterstrike source or something like Portal? or do I need a dedicated graphics card for any type of gaming?

Many thanks Gary

Chassis & Display
Initia Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 60Hz 45% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 10-Core Processor i5-1235U (3.3GHz) 12MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
16GB PCS PRO SODIMM DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
Integrated Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3200 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 45W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf European Power Cable
Battery
Initia Series Integrated 49WH Lithium Ion Battery
Sound Card
Intel 2 Channel High Definition Audio + MIC/Headphone Jack
Wireless Network Card
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 2.0 MP FULL HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Chassis
Clevo NL55PU FHD (i5-1235U, FHD, 60Hz N4, AX201)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: €728.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/initia-ii-15/qtPfeN0Pum/
 
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Hippy

Active member
Hi all, I thought this was an easy yes or no, 32 looks but no replies:( . I have never played a game on a laptop without a dedicated card, but don't want the expense for a few weeks of the year, the rest of this build seems (to me) to be reasonable / good.?

Below is another build with a dedicated card 220.00€ more, I have also added a second drive and made the 1st drive smaller and just for the OS. Is it worth the extra? this is pushing the budget!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chassis & Display
Elimina Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 12 Core Processor 13500H (4.7GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2933MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3200 MB/R, 2700 MB/W)
2nd M.2 SSD Drive
512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor
1 x 120W AC Adaptor
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre Cloverleaf European Power Cable
Battery
Elimina Series Integrated 54WH Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Studio
Bluetooth & Wireless
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX211 + BT 5.3
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 x USB 3.2 PORTS (Type C) + 1 x USB 3.2 PORT + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language
ELIMINA 15" SERIES MULTI COLOUR BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KK3-00027]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Notebook Mouse
INTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
Webcam
INTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I've read it, but only to see if I can help.

I can't, and normally I'd just ignore it, but as no-one's replying I'll tell you why I wouldn't have normally replied to this type of query:
  • I don't play either of those games
  • I have never tried to use a laptop for gaming
  • I don't know what the equivalent desktop GPU & CPU to those laptop versions you've chosen are
  • ergo, my experience on different games, on different hardware, would have little relevance here
 
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SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
I think CS would run on Iris XE but it wouldn't be a great experience and your accuracy would be pretty poor. Portal though is a bit more demanding nowadays AFAIK and not certain how it would fare.

I would definitely suggest a dgpu in any scenario, the 1650 you'd still have to reduce settings but it would be substantially better.

If its literally just going to be for a holiday then a single drive would be fine, you can always add a second later on if you needed to.
 
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Hippy

Active member
TonyCarter said:
I've read it, but only to see if I can help.

I can't, and normally I'd just ignore it, but as no-one's replying I'll tell you why I wouldn't have normally replied to this type of query:
  • I don't play either of those games
  • I have never tried to use a laptop for gaming
  • I don't know what the equivalent desktop GPU & CPU to those laptop versions you've chosen are
  • ergo, my experience on different games, on different hardware, would have little relevance here
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At least you replied you cant help, any reply is better than deadly silence :)(y)
SpyderTracks said:
I think CS would run on Iris XE but it wouldn't be a great experience and your accuracy would be pretty poor. Portal though is a bit more demanding nowadays AFAIK and not certain how it would fare.

I would definitely suggest a dgpu in any scenario, the 1650 you'd still have to reduce settings but it would be substantially better.

If its literally just going to be for a holiday then a single drive would be fine, you can always add a second later on if you needed to.
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Great thanks, a second opinion just removes that doubt, DGpu defiantly then, might try a better DC and lose a drive.
 
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Hippy

Active member
Hi again, I have increased the 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W) to 1 TB, is it worth putting a partion in to protect windows start speed and if so what size would you recomend.
Thanks
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Hippy said:
Hi again, I have increased the 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W) to 1 TB, is it worth putting a partion in to protect windows start speed and if so what size would you recomend.
Thanks
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SSDs aren’t the same as HDDs, imho they should never be partitioned these days, rather have individual drives. There’s no harm in partitioning as such, but it’s not the same as partitioning an HDD, they’re very different mechanisms. Partitioning won’t improve start speeds though, but will separate your data from the os should you need to reinstall windows. But I’d still suggest multiple drives is a better idea, the cost is negligible.
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hippy said:
Hi again, I have increased the 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W) to 1 TB, is it worth putting a partion in to protect windows start speed and if so what size would you recomend.
Thanks
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Partitioning a single m.2 will not give you any protection or performance benefits...only a secondary drive will do that.

If we're talking about the 2nd config you posted (with is a better build overall, and better display) and if it's only for a couple of games for a couple of weeks a year, then I'd just swap out the 2 smaller PCS SSDs for the speedier 512GB Solidigm P44 Pro. You shouldn't be using more than about 150GB for a full W11 install and a couple of games.

If you find yourself using it more and filling the 512GB SSD past 50/60% then you could always install a secondary SSD in the future...purely to move your game installs onto.
 
Scott

Scott

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Moderator
No matter the drive partitioning affects performance. It's never a good idea IMO. I used it a few times years ago for organisational reasons but only where I didn't need performance.

Windows performance, and the drive performance in general, is affected by the utilisation of the drive. Most SSD drives lose performance over the 60% capacity threshold. I typically aim for <50% utilisation to ensure that this is maintained.

The main reason I still don't recommend 1TB for a primary drive is that you are going to lose 50% of the capacity. The larger the primary drive, the more you lose. This is the reason I recommend 500GB when the performance options are available. That way the losses are minimal with the 250GB still being fairly generous for typical space requirements.
 
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Hippy

Active member
Thanks (y) Gone for the P44 512 primary drive and a 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W) as second/ storage.
The laptop I use now has a 500gb drive and its 75% full and slowwwww to start, so with some proper houskeeping the new storage should last.
 
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SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Hippy said:
Thanks (y) Gone for the P44 512 primary drive and a 512GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3100 MB/W) as second/ storage.
The laptop I use now has a 500gb drive and its 75% full and slowwwww to start, so with some proper houskeeping the new storage should last.
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What drive has your current laptop got? SSD or HDD?
 
SpyderTracks

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Hippy said:
HDD
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That’s why it’s slow. HDDs are not fast enough for modern systems. They top out at around 120mbs. A normal modern SSD will be more like 6000mbs. If you replaced it with an SSD it would be far better.

It’s nothing you can solve by partitioning or file maintenance, it’s a limitation of the drive technology.
 
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