GAMING PC @ 1080 - 144 Hz

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TarnishedRock

Member
Hi to everyone! I’m looking for a strictly gaming pc to play various titles including fps such as Warzone, BF, EFT, Doom and other titles such as GTA, Cyberpunk etc. I have a AOC 24 G2 1080p 144 Hz monitor.

Case
CASE DA GAMING CORSAIR 4000D VETRO TEMPERATO FLUSSO D'ARIA
Processore (CPU)
Processore i5 Intel® Core™ i5-10400F 6 core (2,9 GHz), 12 MB cache
Scheda madre
ASUS® PRIME Z490-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX) – ARGB Ready
Memoria (RAM)
DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE 3200 MHz 16 GB (2 da 8 GB)
Scheda grafica
NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 Ti da 8 GB - HDMI, DP
1o drive SSD M.2
SSD PCIe INTEL® 665p M.2 NVMe 1 TB (fino a 2000 MB/sR | 1925 MB/sW)
Alimentatore
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMIMODULARE 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA SILENZIOSO
Cavo di alimentazione
1 cavo di alimentazione europeo 1 metro (tipo kettle)
Raffreddamento processore
Dissipatore CPU PCS FrostFlow 100 V2 Series ad alte prestazioni
Pasta termica
PASTA TERMICA STANDARD PER UN RAFFREDDAMENTO SUFFICIENTE
Scheda audio
AUDIO ALTA DEFINIZIONE INTEGRATO A 6 CANALI (5.1) (DI SERIE)
Scheda di rete
PORTA LAN GIGABIT 10/100/1000 (Wi-Fi NON INCLUSO)
Scheda di rete wireless
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2.400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
Opzioni USB/Thunderbolt
MIN. 2 PORTE USB 3.0 & 2 PORTE USB 2.0 @ PANNELLO SUL RETRO + MIN. 2 PORTE FRONTALI
Sistema operativo
NESSUN SISTEMA OPERATIVO RICHIESTO
Lingua del sistema operativo
Italia/Italia – Lingua italiana
Supporto di ripristino Windows
NESSUN RIPRISTINO RICHIESTO
Software Office
Prova GRATUITA 30 giorni di Microsoft 365® (richiesto sistema operativo)
Antivirus
NESSUN SOFTWARE ANTIVIRUS
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (solo con Windows 10)
Gestione cavi
PCS 1,5 m Zip Cable Tidy – Gestione professionale dei cavi
Garanzia
Garanzia Oro 3 anni (2 anni Ritiro e reso, 2 anni Ricambi, 3 anni Manodopera)
Consegna
3 - 4 GIORNI PER LA SPEDIZIONE IN ITALIA
Tempo di costruzione
Costruzione standard – da 34 a 36 giorni lavorativi
Prezzo: €1.300,00 IVA e consegna incluse

Any advice is welcome, I also am wondering if it might be ok to choose a Rtx 2060 GPU (I included the new 3060 ti for future proofing) or to choose an AMD GPU like the 5700 which would lower the cost by quite a bit. My doubt on AMD is that I heard of many issues concerning fan speed and temperature, plus something model-specific about noise.

thank you in advance!
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

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Any reason you're choosing an Intel build? AMD are the better choice as they outperform Intel in almost every category.

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...
www.pcspecialist.co.uk www.pcspecialist.co.uk
We are currently at quite an unfortunate time for 1080p gaming, with the 2060 being discontinued, and the 3050 and 3060 (non ti) yet to launch. A 3060ti is overkill for 1080p, and putting it in your build means that you've had to use other cheaper parts to compensate.
I reckon you have 3 options.
Get this build with a 1660 super, and it will handle all of the games you've listed above except for Cyberpunk.
Wait until the end of February for the 3060 to come out and order then (or wait even longer for the 3050, which would be a more appropriate GPU)
Blow the budget out of the water and opt for a 1440p 144hz build keeping the 3060ti.
There are always multiple factors that go into determining a build, and you need to decide whether you want to prioritise getting the PC ASAP, being able to play Cyberpunk (far more demanding than the other titles you listed above), and keeping the build within budget.

Edit: The 2060 is back in stock, that will be the best fit for your needs.
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

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Ok, so specced you up an AMD build with a 2060. This should handle your needs. Build should last 7-10 years with room to upgrade to 1440p down the line.

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: €1.275,41 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/hGfcWYPhU0/
 
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TMurfin

Member
Hi Mate, would this PC you've recommended be be good for games such as Warzone, CoD Cold War, CSGO? I'm wanting to get a PC instead of PS5 but havent a clue.

Also noticed you havent got an operating system on the build? Why is this?
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

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TMurfin said:
Hi Mate, would this PC you've recommended be be good for games such as Warzone, CoD Cold War, CSGO? I'm wanting to get a PC instead of PS5 but havent a clue.

Also noticed you havent got an operating system on the build? Why is this?
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Hi mate, I've specced this build based on OP's requirements.

If you would like advice on a build, please start your own thread, and don't piggyback other people's threads :)
 
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TarnishedRock

Member
@MrWilson thank you for your advices mate!

I chose Intel because based on my research the i5 10400f is actually quite competitive with AMD counterparts (R5 3600 and 3600X) in terms of performance (even if just for gaming, which is what I need) and price. Do you not agree?

Do you think a R5 3600 (X or not) paired with a B550 MOBO is a better choice than a i5 10400f with a Z490 MOBO? The price is similar (a little in favor of intel).

I am considering to wait for the new GPUs, that's good advice. I'm also thinking to opt for a 2060, which should do the job well enough.

Thank you also for your build, however there is an issue with price. The price you see form my build is 1300 but I would actually pay about 1065 Euros because I can recover the VAT which in Italy is 22%.

About ssd: is the PCS m.2 1 TB actually similar to intel's one in terms of reliability and speed?

PSU: is there a big difference between the one in your proposed build and mine? I really don't know anything about PSUs..
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

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TarnishedRock said:
@MrWilson thank you for your advices mate!

I chose Intel because based on my research the i5 10400f is actually quite competitive with AMD counterparts (R5 3600 and 3600X) in terms of performance (even if just for gaming, which is what I need) and price. Do you not agree?

Do you think a R5 3600 (X or not) paired with a B550 MOBO is a better choice than a i5 10400f with a Z490 MOBO? The price is similar (a little in favor of intel).

I am considering to wait for the new GPUs, that's good advice. I'm also thinking to opt for a 2060, which should do the job well enough.

Thank you also for your build, however there is an issue with price. The price you see form my build is 1300 but I would actually pay about 1065 Euros because I can recover the VAT which in Italy is 22%.

About ssd: is the PCS m.2 1 TB actually similar to intel's one in terms of reliability and speed?

PSU: is there a big difference between the one in your proposed build and mine? I really don't know anything about PSUs..
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Regarding budget, please could you post a link to your build so I can double check what the budget is? VAT might be confusing me.
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
TarnishedRock said:
@MrWilson thank you for your advices mate!

I chose Intel because based on my research the i5 10400f is actually quite competitive with AMD counterparts (R5 3600 and 3600X) in terms of performance (even if just for gaming, which is what I need) and price. Do you not agree?

Do you think a R5 3600 (X or not) paired with a B550 MOBO is a better choice than a i5 10400f with a Z490 MOBO? The price is similar (a little in favor of intel).

I am considering to wait for the new GPUs, that's good advice. I'm also thinking to opt for a 2060, which should do the job well enough.

Thank you also for your build, however there is an issue with price. The price you see form my build is 1300 but I would actually pay about 1065 Euros because I can recover the VAT which in Italy is 22%.

About ssd: is the PCS m.2 1 TB actually similar to intel's one in terms of reliability and speed?

PSU: is there a big difference between the one in your proposed build and mine? I really don't know anything about PSUs..
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@MrWilson has specced the 5600 which will blow the I5 out of the water (did you read the link that he posted re AMD v Intel)

Re the PCS M.2 it is more reliable than the intel one which has a history of a short life span (I've 2 of the PCS ones in my desktop & 1 in my laptop
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

Godlike
The PSU has higher capacity so you have the option to upgrade to 1440p in a few years time. The RMx models also run quieter and cooler than the TXm models.
 
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Gavras

Master Poster
Even if you 100% want an Intel CPU, the next gen is released in about 6 weeks.

While still an Intel broken architecture it will be far better than current intel CPU’s and fix some of the numerous security issues with Intel architecture.

PSU change is just what is required.
 
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TarnishedRock

Member
This is the link for the original build:

PCSPECIALIST - PC e Laptop Personalizzati dalle specifiche eccellenti

Costruttore di computer e laptop personalizzati di alte prestazioni. Personalizza il tuo PC per gaming o laptop ideale con il nostro configuratore avanzato.
www.pcspecialist.it www.pcspecialist.it

This is a link for a new build I made inspired by yours.

PCSPECIALIST - PC e Laptop Personalizzati dalle specifiche eccellenti

Costruttore di computer e laptop personalizzati di alte prestazioni. Personalizza il tuo PC per gaming o laptop ideale con il nostro configuratore avanzato.
www.pcspecialist.it www.pcspecialist.it

Look at the price "excluding VAT" --> my budget is about 1000 Euros to 1050 Euros

Thank you guys for your suggestions. I will stick with the PCS ssd for sure, while I am not sure about the PSU, I should stick with the RMx then?
 
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TarnishedRock

Member
Gavras said:
Even if you 100% want an Intel CPU, the next gen is released in about 6 weeks.

While still an Intel broken architecture it will be far better than current intel CPU’s and fix some of the numerous security issues with Intel architecture.

PSU change is just what is required.
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I see! Nono, I'm not biased for intel, just for price/performance (in gaming) haha
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

Godlike
Downgrading to the 3600x and a 550 mobo gets you within budget. The RX 5000 series is a bit temperamental, they had a lot of driver issues at launch and it’s still a bit risky. The 2060 is available and is the better choice.

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: €1.045,08 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/f7mGeaDjQH/
 
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TarnishedRock

Member
I think it does, but I'm not sure what performance cost ray tracing would have on a 2060. Anyways, that's something to consider, too!
Nursemorph said:
Cyberpunk utilises Ray Tracing correct? If that is something you might want to consider, then you need an NVIDIA RTX card....AMD only the new GPUs have RTX (and are way above your budget and screen level)
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TarnishedRock

Member
MrWilson said:
Downgrading to the 3600x and a 550 mobo gets you within budget. The RX 5000 series is a bit temperamental, they had a lot of driver issues at launch and it’s still a bit risky. The 2060 is available and is the better choice.

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
3 - 4 DAY DELIVERY TO ITALY
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: €1.045,08 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/f7mGeaDjQH/
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Thank you again!

I can't seem to find out if that MOBO has already wifi on it, or if it has just compatibility with wifi. Do you happen to know that? Because I need to connect on a wifi network. My previous choice was the cheapest (Prime version) of the 550 mother boards along with Intel's wifi network card.

If you needed to stay in 1000 Euros budget, what would you sacrifice on?
 
Resistance100

Resistance100

Expert
TarnishedRock said:
Thank you again!

I can't seem to find out if that MOBO has already wifi on it, or if it has just compatibility with wifi. Do you happen to know that? Because I need to connect on a wifi network. My previous choice was the cheapest (Prime version) of the 550 mother boards along with Intel's wifi network card.

If you needed to stay in 1000 Euros budget, what would you sacrifice on?
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The one in Mr Wilson recommended has Wifi :)
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
TarnishedRock said:
Thank you again!

I can't seem to find out if that MOBO has already wifi on it, or if it has just compatibility with wifi. Do you happen to know that? Because I need to connect on a wifi network. My previous choice was the cheapest (Prime version) of the 550 mother boards along with Intel's wifi network card.

If you needed to stay in 1000 Euros budget, what would you sacrifice on?
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I think a hint in its name ;)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS WiFi (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
 
MrWilson

MrWilson

Godlike
TarnishedRock said:
Thank you again!

I can't seem to find out if that MOBO has already wifi on it, or if it has just compatibility with wifi. Do you happen to know that? Because I need to connect on a wifi network. My previous choice was the cheapest (Prime version) of the 550 mother boards along with Intel's wifi network card.

If you needed to stay in 1000 Euros budget, what would you sacrifice on?
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Honestly, I wouldn't compromise any further. This is pretty much the bare minimum I would spec. If you swap in some cheaper parts it will be false economy because they will need replacing in the long run. Unfortunately Covid has caused every component to increase in price due to supply chain shortages.
 
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