Good build for 4k60 and Unreal Engine?
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Also, SpyderTracks, I did just find a 32" monitor with everything included in the other one, except a 4ms response time instead of 1ms. Is it worth sacraficing the response time for a bigger setup? Thanks for replying to my thread btw, I appreciate it!
I'd say yes, 4ms vs 1ms response time isn't going to be noticeable to human eye and usually they're pretty made up numbers anyway.
Thanks a lot, that's my mind made up
It does go a bit out of my budget though
I'm probably going to go with the 28" because it's more within my budget and some of the reviews on the 32" have said that there can be a bit of input lag in games. Mostly because of the budget though. I feel like 28 inch is big enough, I plan to have a desk that sits me fairly near to the monitors anyway, if I have two it will be fine anyway (not that I have one game across 2 monitors, I will just have a bigger setup.
Thanks for your help anyway SpyderTracks, it's always good to consider different options.
It does go a bit out of my budget though
I'm probably going to go with the 28" because it's more within my budget and some of the reviews on the 32" have said that there can be a bit of input lag in games. Mostly because of the budget though. I feel like 28 inch is big enough, I plan to have a desk that sits me fairly near to the monitors anyway, if I have two it will be fine anyway (not that I have one game across 2 monitors, I will just have a bigger setup.
Thanks for your help anyway SpyderTracks, it's always good to consider different options.
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Thats the ones I suggested. They are good monitors.
Overall, The_Scotster, would you say that SLI is worth it? Apparently it is a bit unstable and doesn't work that well. It looks decent on the charts (improvements in quite a few games, drops from 10-20 fps in some), but would you say it's worth it overall? Also, can you disable SLI for games where one GPU would run better? Thanks!
It's entirely subjective. If the games with the good gains are the ones you want to play, and from the developers you predict you will want to play with in the future, then there is definitely some merit. If not then it's a complete waste of money.
You can enable/disable SLI at will so you won't see any drops if you configure it all correctly, you will only see gains. It's a lot of cash to be putting into it though so make sure you're going to use it
Oussebon
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"Worth it" is a bit subjective, and you can make all kinds of arguments about price vs performance, and also it's up to you what levels of performance / graphics settings are satisfactory or not.
I've posted some things here about SLI, with links to some articles that might be of interest: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-Hardware-FAQs&p=397288&viewfull=1#post397288
If we're ignoring the money or value point of view, however, SLI does have big performance gains in many titles, and since 4k is very demanding on a single 1080 ti, I would say SLI is worth it if you have the cash and want to push the settings as far as possible.
I've posted some things here about SLI, with links to some articles that might be of interest: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...-Hardware-FAQs&p=397288&viewfull=1#post397288
If we're ignoring the money or value point of view, however, SLI does have big performance gains in many titles, and since 4k is very demanding on a single 1080 ti, I would say SLI is worth it if you have the cash and want to push the settings as far as possible.
Here’s my final spec:
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX 5t GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
2nd Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND M.2 SSD (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 10 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 Digital License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS Cerberus Keyboard & Mouse Bundle
Headsets
ASUS ROG ORION Gaming Headset
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
Technician Assisted Installation & Set-Up
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Promotional Item
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Quantity
1
Price £3,265.00 including VAT and delivery
Adding the £1060 from the two 4K monitors, around £4325
Within my budget, but it’s ok because I reduced money in some areas to spend more in others.
Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX 5t GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Six Core Processor i7-8700k (3.7GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
2nd Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
1st Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Blue™ 3D NAND M.2 SSD (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.1 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
DVD Recovery Media
Windows 10 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve
Office Software
Microsoft® Office Home & Student 2016 (1 Digital License)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS Cerberus Keyboard & Mouse Bundle
Headsets
ASUS ROG ORION Gaming Headset
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
Technician Assisted Installation & Set-Up
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Promotional Item
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
Quantity
1
Price £3,265.00 including VAT and delivery
Adding the £1060 from the two 4K monitors, around £4325
Within my budget, but it’s ok because I reduced money in some areas to spend more in others.
You should seriously consider pre-overclocked (covered under warranty) for such a beast. Also, there's much better drive configurations to be had. Something like this would be far superior....
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 460X RGB GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Six Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
2nd Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
1st Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1900MB/W)
FREE Assassin's Creed: Origins with select SAMSUNG NVMe SSDs!
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS Cerberus Keyboard & Mouse Bundle
Headsets
ASUS ROG ORION Gaming Headset
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
Technician Assisted Installation & Set-Up
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1
Price £3,308.00 including VAT and delivery
Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-overclocked/RjZVA0qbGz/
Case
CORSAIR CRYSTAL SERIES 460X RGB GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Six Core (3.7GHz @ up to 4.8GHz)
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Ultra Gaming: ATX, LG1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
2nd Graphics Card
11GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 Ti - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - GTX VR Ready!
Get Destiny 2 with select GTX 10 Series GPUs! ** Limited Codes Available **
1st Hard Disk
3TB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3200MB/R, 1900MB/W)
FREE Assassin's Creed: Origins with select SAMSUNG NVMe SSDs!
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i V2 Hydro Cooler w/ PCS Liquid Series Ultra Quiet Fans
Thermal Paste
EK-TIM ECTOTHERM THERMAL COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc DVD & Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS Cerberus Keyboard & Mouse Bundle
Headsets
ASUS ROG ORION Gaming Headset
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Home Installation
Technician Assisted Installation & Set-Up
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1
Price £3,308.00 including VAT and delivery
Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-overclocked/RjZVA0qbGz/
Ouessebon - This one
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/acer...BbPgYiCuaRr0kC4HDItLtuv37JFL_O2IaAqPuEALw_wcB
Two of those.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/acer...BbPgYiCuaRr0kC4HDItLtuv37JFL_O2IaAqPuEALw_wcB
Two of those.
Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
There really isn't any point to buying 2 4k gsync monitors. Why do you need gsync on both screens at once?
For pre-overclicked systems, you just make the spec in this configurator: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/intel-z370-overclocked
For pre-overclicked systems, you just make the spec in this configurator: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/computers/intel-z370-overclocked
Ah
Thanks for the info on overclocking. But about the 2 gsync monitors, should I have that one as my primary monitor and then get one of the 4k monitors from PCS? They don't have gsync, but they do have 60hz and 1ms response. They're about £300 compared to the other which is £530.
The PC for the overclocked build totalled at £3490 + the £530 for the monitor = £4020.
Also, which cooler should I go with: The Noctua, or one from the Hyrdo Cooler Series?
Turns out I want a bit of extra power. I got rid of the Blu-Ray/DVD drive because it didn't go with my case (and I don't need one anyway) and bought an extra 200W. The whole cost now stands at £4084
Thanks for the info on overclocking. But about the 2 gsync monitors, should I have that one as my primary monitor and then get one of the 4k monitors from PCS? They don't have gsync, but they do have 60hz and 1ms response. They're about £300 compared to the other which is £530.
The PC for the overclocked build totalled at £3490 + the £530 for the monitor = £4020.
Also, which cooler should I go with: The Noctua, or one from the Hyrdo Cooler Series?
Turns out I want a bit of extra power. I got rid of the Blu-Ray/DVD drive because it didn't go with my case (and I don't need one anyway) and bought an extra 200W. The whole cost now stands at £4084
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Oussebon
Multiverse Poster
Yes, or anywhere else that has a cheaper 4k monitor you like the look of.
To be honest if you don't need content on your off-screen to be 4k you could probably just get a 1440p 60hz monitor for £200 or even a 1080p one for £100. If you're not bothered about having your desktop / browser etc at 4k while gaming at 4k, and if you're not watching 4k movies while playing a 4k game, do you really need the 2nd monitor to be 4k?
That's a good point. All I would do on the second monitor is browse for assets on the Unreal Engine. Possibly some other things as well, it's just good to have two monitors because it's good to be able to see two things at the same time, for example, easy comparison of webpages. If I was looking at two different monitors to buy (on two different monitors, sounds pointless, but just an example) then I could have one tab on either screen. I might get a 1440p one, or if the price is too steep, I'll probably go for 1080p. If the monitors both use DP, how easy will they be to connect to each other (monitor to monitor)?
It does say on the configurator what outputs the graphics card has, the 1080Ti says DVI, HDMI, 3xDP. You will need to plug each monitor into the graphics card separately, depending on what your monitor supports you'll need to choose the right connection. If you want to use a GSync monitor for example you'll need to use DP.