GPU Dilemma that I need to resolve

[danb254]

I am in the process of ordering a new PC as I am rocking a 1070 card which is about the only thing I have upgraded since I purchased my PC back in 2015.

Obviously, with the queues on the new generation cards I am currently deciding what option I should take.

I have got a few different options that I could consider.

1. Purchase the 3080 Asus version and hope that the queue isn't months long and I can get it before next year.
2. Purchase the 3070 which is due out on the 29th and hope that there is enough supply to get my pc build as soon as it's released (Also have concerns over this option as I am not sure how well the 3070 performs compared to the 3080)
3. Purchase a 2070 super which is currently available, or alternatively get a 2080 super which doesn't seem to be much cheaper to the 3080 on the website so might even be worth trying to get that as it looks like the 2080 super is also unavailable at the moment.

I am not looking to run games in 4K at the moment as I only have a 1440p monitor (144hz) but future proofing would be nice if I do decide that I want to make the leap up to 4k gaming.

I have opted for a Ryzen 5 3600XT with an Asus TUF X570-PLUS Gaming motherboard with 16GB of Vengeance DDR4 3200Mhz RAM. 750W Modular Gold PSU if that helps.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I am in the process of ordering a new PC as I am rocking a 1070 card which is about the only thing I have upgraded since I purchased my PC back in 2015.

Obviously, with the queues on the new generation cards I am currently deciding what option I should take.

I have got a few different options that I could consider.

1. Purchase the 3080 Asus version and hope that the queue isn't months long and I can get it before next year.
2. Purchase the 3070 which is due out on the 29th and hope that there is enough supply to get my pc build as soon as it's released (Also have concerns over this option as I am not sure how well the 3070 performs compared to the 3080)
3. Purchase a 2070 super which is currently available, or alternatively get a 2080 super which doesn't seem to be much cheaper to the 3080 on the website so might even be worth trying to get that as it looks like the 2080 super is also unavailable at the moment.

I am not looking to run games in 4K at the moment as I only have a 1440p monitor (144hz) but future proofing would be nice if I do decide that I want to make the leap up to 4k gaming.

I have opted for a Ryzen 5 3600XT with an Asus TUF X570-PLUS Gaming motherboard with 16GB of Vengeance DDR4 3200Mhz RAM. 750W Modular Gold PSU if that helps.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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[Scott]

For 1440p 144hz I would aim for the 3060 when it's released. It's going to be similar power to the 2080 so I don't think you want to purchase a 2080 in its stead

 

[danb254]

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Case
PCS P209 RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT Six Core CPU (4.5GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF X570-PLUS GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0, CrossFireX) - ARGB Ready!
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16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
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10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
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[Gavras]

I was in a similar position, needing to replace my 2010 pc which had a 1060 fitted.

due to the various card releases due in 2020, I took a conscious decision not to upgrade but wait and see what actually came out.

I am happily running AS Odyssey, The Outer Worlds and a number of games without any problems.

So the not upgrading has not impacted my gaming enjoyment.

i am now waiting on the 3060 BUT have an eye on what AMD are doing, additionally new monitors with latest HDMI standard are coming out.

Personally, sit with your 1070 for now, it will be worth it.

 

[danb254]

I was in a similar position, needing to replace my 2010 pc which had a 1060 fitted.

due to the various card releases due in 2020, I took a conscious decision not to upgrade but wait and see what actually came out.

I am happily running AS Odyssey, The Outer Worlds and a number of games without any problems.

So the not upgrading has not impacted my gaming enjoyment.

i am now waiting on the 3060 BUT have an eye on what AMD are doing, additionally new monitors with latest HDMI standard are coming out.

Personally, sit with your 1070 for now, it will be worth it.

Yeah, this is why it has been such a difficult decision, I can still run the majority of the games that I want and still get okay performance certainly not the best. I have an old I5-4690K and running with 16GB DDR3 RAM at the moment. Downloaded Black ops: Cold War better and had to put majority of the settings on the lowest to get 80fps average which a lot of drops below 60 on some of the maps.

 

[Gavras]

Yeah, this is why it has been such a difficult decision, I can still run the majority of the games that I want and still get okay performance certainly not the best. I have an old I5-4690K and running with 16GB DDR3 RAM at the moment. Downloaded Black ops: Cold War better and had to put majority of the settings on the lowest to get 80fps average which a lot of drops below 60 on some of the maps.

By not upgrading my card straight off I could put those extra pennies in to the rest of the build (As per sig block).

This means when I do get my card (and screen) I will have decent baseline.

have my cash saving away ready for Black Friday and other Christmas sales.

For me Valhalla will be the most telling and will greatly impact on next card.

 

[danb254]

By not upgrading my card straight off I could put those extra pennies in to the rest of the build (As per sig block).

This means when I do get my card (and screen) I will have decent baseline.

have my cash saving away ready for Black Friday and other Christmas sales.

For me Valhalla will be the most telling and will greatly impact on next card.

Think it could be worth getting a new CPU, Motherboard and RAM now and hold out on the Graphics card? Or is a Ryzen 3600x not going to drastically improve my fps over my current 4690k

 

[Scott]

You could overclock the 4690k to eek out some performance. Same goes for the GPU, a bit of overclocking can go a long way.

 

[danb254]

You could overclock the 4690k to eek out some performance. Same goes for the GPU, a bit of overclocking can go a long way.

I had overclocked my 4690k to 4.3ghz clock speed at 1.25v but hit some performance issues so reverted back to stock settings. I will try to up the clock at a more conservative number and do the same for my gpu.

 

[Scott]

Have you got a decent cooler? I'd go up to 1.4v on an Intel chip with an appropriate cooler. You don't really need to worry about voltage so much, it's temperature as the higher the voltage the more likely you are to cook the chip.

For starters I would consider 1.3v and 4.5Ghz. Take it from there. Try 4.5, 4.6 etc. I would have 4.5Ghz as your main aim, increase the voltage till it's stable and then check your temps out.

The GPU should be more straight forward as you don't have a lot of voltage options.

 

[danb254]

Have you got a decent cooler? I'd go up to 1.4v on an Intel chip with an appropriate cooler. You don't really need to worry about voltage so much, it's temperature as the higher the voltage the more likely you are to cook the chip.

For starters I would consider 1.3v and 4.5Ghz. Take it from there. Try 4.5, 4.6 etc. I would have 4.5Ghz as your main aim, increase the voltage till it's stable and then check your temps out.

The GPU should be more straight forward as you don't have a lot of voltage options.

So I do have a Cooler master Hyper 212 Evo Cooler. I will try and clock up as far as I can.

I have done my GPU and these are the stats that I have got with it.

 

[Scott]

What figures does the power limit and temp limit have at max? The core clock looks not half bad, memory clock I would expect a bit more.

With regards to the cooler, it's not the best to be honest. I would try 1.3v and 4.5Ghz and see how it goes. Make sure you game intensively for at least 20 mins while monitoring temps to see how it goes. if you want to properly test it, 10 mins on Prime95 should be fine. Anything under 90C at full fan speed I would be happy with.

 

[danb254]

What figures does the power limit and temp limit have at max? The core clock looks not half bad, memory clock I would expect a bit more.

With regards to the cooler, it's not the best to be honest. I would try 1.3v and 4.5Ghz and see how it goes. Make sure you game intensively for at least 20 mins while monitoring temps to see how it goes. if you want to properly test it, 10 mins on Prime95 should be fine. Anything under 90C at full fan speed I would be happy with.

I’ll have another go on the GPU tomorrow and see if I can get the numbers up. Will do the same for the CPU.
Have noticed already that FPS numbers have increased slightly and not have as many dips.