Gtx 980m

[SlimCini]

Not at all, because I am travelling a lot in the next year or so but wanted a decent portable system. Lifestyle I guess is what motivated me to buy an expensive laptop, would of been nice to buy a decent desktop rig but it wouldn't take well being taken on and off planes.

Fair enough. My laptop in my signature I got about 2 years ago now and cost £1300 at the time. And it still plays all the latest games at 60fps. Is this a long term lifestyle laptop gaming thing then?

 

[ELL4EVER]

It does annoy me that a 120hz screen isn't an option on the elite se, especially when other companies that use Clevo chassis will offer that option. However if you want to play graphics intensive games like crysis 3/star citizen/metro last light redux then you are going to need two cards to play these games at 60 fps even on a 1080p screen. I prefer gaming on a laptop as I can move around different parts of my house or to other people's houses when we have a big gaming session so big powerful laptops are great, even if you have to pay the extra price for them

 

[SlimCini]

It does annoy me that a 120hz screen isn't an option on the elite se, especially when other companies that use Clevo chassis will offer that option. However if you want to play graphics intensive games like crysis 3/star citizen/metro last light redux then you are going to need two cards to play these games at 60 fps even on a 1080p screen.

Not true.

I can play them at 60fps on my laptop with my single 680m. Just turn some settings down. I can play Shadow of Mordor at 60fps with one or two settings turned down and can't really tell the difference on my laptop screen compared to a friend who has it with everything on max.

 

[Danny boy]

Fair enough. My laptop in my signature I got about 2 years ago now and cost £1300 at the time. And it still plays all the latest games at 60fps. Is this a long term lifestyle laptop gaming thing then?

Yes mainly just did some more comparisons on 3d mark the 980m sli is near on par with desktop 1x gtx 980 set ups. will post the data once I am finished comparing be aware the desktop 980 when overclocked runs rings round the results so I ve tried to compare results with factory settings I won't try to overclock my laptop bricking would not be wise as the price I paid.

see below pdf for comparisons its just a rough anaylasis focusing on CPU and GPU. I have labelled the desktop systems so you can see the difference 970m sli and 980 sli looking very good for laptop configs.

View attachment cpu and gpu benchmarks 3.pdf

 

[ELL4EVER]

Not true.

I can play them at 60fps on my laptop with my single 680m. Just turn some settings down. I can play Shadow of Mordor at 60fps with one or two settings turned down and can't really tell the difference on my laptop screen compared to a friend who has it with everything on max.

Sorry I should have specified that I meant using ultra settings, I'm the guy who likes everything set up to max
also it's only in graphics intensive games that a single 980m/880m won't reach 60 fps on max settings. A single 880m can easily handle bioshock infinite on max settings above 60 fps but not all games require the same graphics power to max the settings.

As for real world performance, dual 970m's can get higher frame rates than a single desktop 980, it will be interesting to see how the dual 980m's perform in gameplay.

 

[SlimCini]

Sorry I should have specified that I meant using ultra settings, I'm the guy who likes everything set up to max
also it's only in graphics intensive games that a single 980m/880m won't reach 60 fps on max settings. A single 880m can easily handle bioshock infinite on max settings above 60 fps but not all games require the same graphics power to max the settings.

As for real world performance, dual 970m's can get higher frame rates than a single desktop 980, it will be interesting to see how the dual 980m's perform in gameplay.

I can understand the need to have the very best technology... indeed I have that urge with certain things. But paying through the nose so you can all settings to the max on a laptop just seems a bit absurd when most of them you probably can't even tell the difference. And as impressive as mobile GPUs are getting... again I have to say 'who cares'? When all you have to play them on is a (relatively speaking) small 17" 1080p screen? The Vortex IV with SLI GPUs seems an utter waste of money with a 1080p screen. Hey ho.

If I had £2700 to burn, I'd spend £1820 on a 4k desktop (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/intel-haswell-pc/6xVqmb3Fwg/) for when I was at home and then £868 on a gaming laptop (http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/quotes/optimusV-15/7JyTH7Tvwo/) for my travels.

 

[ELL4EVER]

I agree, it doesn't really seem like a logical choice but sometimes my heart shouts louder than my brain or my wallet

 

[ELL4EVER]

Mind you I've got a build that is under £2k using duel 970m's which should be quite capable and can be made cheaper by removing a few parts. I'll be getting a new desktop at some point which is where most of my budget will be heading towards as I want to play Star citizen in 4k, but I have quite some time before the persistent universe comes out so I'm sticking with laptop gaming for now.

 

[SlimCini]

Mind you I've got a build that is under £2k using duel 970m's which should be quite capable and can be made cheaper by removing a few parts. I'll be getting a new desktop at some point which is where most of my budget will be heading towards as I want to play Star citizen in 4k, but I have quite some time before the persistent universe comes out so I'm sticking with laptop gaming for now.

Still...nowadays I wouldn't pay more than £800 for a machine to game on a 1080p screen. £1000 if you need to do video editing.

 

[mrducking]

Still...nowadays I wouldn't pay more than £800 for a machine to game on a 1080p screen. £1000 if you need to do video editing.

unless you live traveling or need to move with your pc all the time
still 2k for a laptop is wasted money to me, unless it's a workstation

 

[Danny boy]

unless you live traveling or need to move with your pc all the time
still 2k for a laptop is wasted money to me, unless it's a workstation

I know spending well over 2k for a laptop seems silly but where I am going I can't take a descent desktop and getting one whilst I am there is just impractical and would cost just as much to get it there in traveling etc, a laptop is preferable. Also I want something I can use as a desktop replacement that is significantly better than my previous build. So duel 980m's seem the best option although I do understand spending as much on a desktop would run serious rings of fire around a more portable laptop system.

 

[mrducking]

I know spending well over 2k for a laptop seems silly but where I am going I can't take a descent desktop and getting one whilst I am there is just impractical and would cost just as much to get it there in traveling etc, a laptop is preferable. Also I want something I can use as a desktop replacement that is significantly better than my previous build. So duel 980m's seem the best option although I do understand spending as much on a desktop would run serious rings of fire around a more portable laptop system.

no, no, i didnt mean that, what i meant is that if it's really worth it a sli of 980 instead of a 970 one, whats the real performance/buck between them? because as you probably know, when doing sli/crossfire you never get 200% of the original, it's more like 160%, i dont think spending 500-600 more in the 980 is worth it

my main point was that reached a certain point, spending more serves no purpose except of spending more, there is no point getting the extreme cpu version if you are not going to use it, as there is no point to buy sli of 980 when they are not really that more functional than a sli of 970

 

[Danny boy]

no, no, i didnt mean that, what i meant is that if it's really worth it a sli of 980 instead of a 970 one, whats the real performance/buck between them? because as you probably know, when doing sli/crossfire you never get 200% of the original, it's more like 160%, i dont think spending 500-600 more in the 980 is worth it

my main point was that reached a certain point, spending more serves no purpose except of spending more, there is no point getting the extreme cpu version if you are not going to use it, as there is no point to buy sli of 980 when they are not really that more functional than a sli of 970

Yes I see your point, the is a only a slight margin in performance, Is the exstra money worth it?

see my 3d mark research clearly not much difference.

View attachment cpu and gpu benchmarks 3.pdf

 

[mrducking]

Yes I see your point, the is a only a slight margin in performance, Is the exstra money worth it?

see my 3d mark research clearly not much difference.

View attachment 5837

based on those numbers, if you are not going to use this for heavy gpu rendering (and i mean work, not gaming) it is not worth the extra money, at least imo, and even then you can see that the sli 980m is only slightly better in just one test, all the others are almost the same

my conclusion is sli980m is not worth the money over the sli 970m

 

[Danny boy]

The biggest question now for a duel 970m is what is the best cpu to use with it, and how future proof is it?

 

[keynes]

I7-4710mq or 4810mq

 

[Rocksteady]

Just ordered Defiance 15.6" with this specs:

Defiance Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-4710HQ (2.50GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X IMPACT 1600MHz SODIMM DDR3 (2 x 8GB)
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 970M - 3.0GB DDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 11
500GB SEAGATE HYBRID SSHD Drive, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (5400 rpm) x2
Integrated 6 in 1 Card Reader (SD /Mini SD/ SDHC / SDXC / MMC / RSMMC)
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Intel 2 Channel High Def. Audio + MIC/Headphone + SoundBlaster X-Fi MB3
GIGABIT LAN & WIRELESS INTEL® AC-7260 M.2 (867Mbps, 802.11AC) + BLUETOOTH
4 x USB 3.0 PORTS (1 x POWERED, 1 e-SATA COMBINED)
Defiance Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (60WH)
1 x UK Power Lead & 180W AC Adaptor
DEFIANCE SERIES BACKLIT UK KEYBOARD WITH NUMBER PAD
Genuine Windows 8.1 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence
Windows 8.1 (64-bit) DVD with paper sleeve

Price: £1,226.00 (limited budget) :X

I want some opinions about this specs. Its my first custom build laptop and hope I can use it for 4-6 years

 

[Stressed]

The good thing about Defiance was the resolution screen. Did you not want the 4k Display?
I am not sure about 6 years.. but you should be happy with it for a long time.

 

[avemar]

Ordered a 980m Vortex IV 15.6 3 weeks ago, and still waiting for GPU to arrive.
Someone with 980m order (not the soldered one, but the mxm module) had his laptop delivered, or at least tested and QCed?
Mine is stuck at testing since 23rd October (maybe because PCS staff had built everything but the missing GPU).

Cheers

 

[Rocksteady]

The good thing about Defiance was the resolution screen. Did you not want the 4k Display?
I am not sure about 6 years.. but you should be happy with it for a long time.

Well like I said, I have limited budget, so normal resolution should be enough, and I planned to buy a monitor as well for working purposes.