Help with Gaming build

[t_dawg]

Hi guys,

Been a long time viewer on this forum around latest specs and PC builds etc. I have finally gotten round to speccing up a new gaming PC for myself now that the 9800X3D is imminent. Main use case is for gaming, some FPS games including COD, Tarkov, Dark and Darker to name a few.

I dont have a gaming monitor yet, but looking to purchase a 1440p ultra-wide 165hz Alienware qd-oled monitor (AW3423DWF). So in that respect, I am looking for a 1440p build.
Budget for the build (without the monitor) is around £2800 so would appreciate your thoughts on this build please. Aesthetic is black with some RGB elements. I added extra case fans but wasn't sure if this would be necessary for cooling? Also the CPU is a placeholder for the 9800X3D.

Thanks in advance for your advice on the build (and the monitor if you like

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.5GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER TRINITY BLACK EDITION - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK H150i RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3 x Corsair ICUE LINK RX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £2,570.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/RhqQ0cztkk/

 

[t_dawg]

Any thoughts/advice?

 

[Ekans2011]

Any thoughts/advice?

It seems nice to me; I'd remove the extra fans because they're unnecessary, but if you value aesthetics, you may leave them (just be sure to configure them properly or you'll get the opposite effect in terms of cooling).

If NVIDIA technologies are not crucial, try an AMD GPU such as the 7900XT, which has better raster performance than the 4070ti SUPER at a cheaper price (about £100 less).

 

[t_dawg]

It seems nice to me; I'd remove the extra fans because they're unnecessary, but if you value aesthetics, you may leave them (just be sure to configure them properly or you'll get the opposite effect in terms of cooling).

If NVIDIA technologies are not crucial, try an AMD GPU such as the 7900XT, which has better raster performance than the 4070ti SUPER at a cheaper price (about £100 less).

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Thank you for this. I did think about the AMD GPU however I prefer NVidia for GPU so think I will stick to that. RE fans noted thanks.

If I were to change to a 4K 200+ hz monitor, what would you change in the build? Change to a 4080 super? I’m still torn between the 1440p or 4K setup.

 

[Ekans2011]

Thank you for this. I did think about the AMD GPU however I prefer NVidia for GPU so think I will stick to that. RE fans noted thanks.

If I were to change to a 4K 200+ hz monitor, what would you change in the build? Change to a 4080 super? I’m still torn between the 1440p or 4K setup.

Personally, I believe that QHD/Ultrawide 1440p is the best resolution for gaming; but, if you want 4K, simply put in a 4080 SUPER/7900XTX and you should be OK.

 

[SpyderTracks]

At this stage I wouldn't be buying a 4k GPU, the 4080 or 4090 at all as the next gen are due for release in January and are set to be a substantial upgrade.

Why pay 1100 now for something that's going to be outperformed by the 5070 next year ar 700 or thereabouts.

 

[t_dawg]

All good points, thanks guys appreciate the feedback

 

[chrand52]

All good points, thanks guys appreciate the feedback

Wouldn't listen to spyder about the 5x series, why wait for january and pay 2 to 3k for a 5x series when most specs are rumoured to ne close to the 4x series only the 5090 out preforms all, also nvdia stopped maxing the 4x series to ensure people buy the over priced 5x, I'm picking up a new gaming rig end of the month with a 4090 and ryzen 9800x3d.

As for your build I'd get a different case drop cpu down to the 7800x3d (as you are a gamer not a video editor) 9800x3d is good too but only paired woth 4080 or 4090. try save and get a 4080 super drop ram down to 5700mhz for the sweet spot and if u can pick up the

ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO​

Motherboard, avoid anything that says "gaming" that's just a gimick.

Need any more advice always happy to help Been a pc builder for 26 years

 

[SpyderTracks]

Wouldn't listen to spyder about the 5x series, why wait for january and pay 2 to 3k for a 5x series when most specs are rumoured to ne close to the 4x series only the 5090 out preforms all, also nvdia stopped maxing the 4x series to ensure people buy the over priced 5x, I'm picking up a new gaming rig end of the month with a 4090 and ryzen 9800x3d.

As for your build I'd get a different case drop cpu down to the 7800x3d (as you are a gamer not a video editor) 9800x3d is good too but only paired woth 4080 or 4090. try save and get a 4080 super drop ram down to 5700mhz for the sweet spot and if u can pick up the

ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO​

Motherboard, avoid anything that says "gaming" that's just a gimick.

Need any more advice always happy to help Been a pc builder for 26 years

What are you talking about, since when is an x80 tier card 2 or 3k? Seriously, there’s pulling something out of the bag and just talking drivel.

If you really are a PC builder of 26 years then you’ll understand generational gains, so a 4080 will be outperformed by a 5070

So you’re saying a 5070 is going to be over 2k?

also nvdia stopped maxing the 4x series to ensure people buy the over priced 5x

this literally happens every generation in the high end models, no idea why you think this is odd?

There is no such thing as 5700MHz RAM either? And if you’re talking about Ryzen, 6400MHz has widely been hailed the sweet spot for performance but 6000MHz for value

Me calls noob who has zero clue.

The fact you’ve been signed up since 2016 and this is your first post as well, thanks for such generous contributions 🤣

 

[SpyderTracks]

I’m just gonna bookmark this thread for when benchmarks and prices are released in January, always love saying the line “Told you so!”

 

[Ekans2011]

I would also point out that the 7800X3D has been out of stock for a long time (and will most likely never be seen again); AMD will release the 9800X3D next week at a slightly higher cost than its predecessor ($30 or so), so I believe choosing a Zen 4 CPU is not a smart move when you can get a Zen 5 CPU for around the same price.

The MB you've suggested is extremely overkill for the OP's needs.
The new X870 chipset (essentially a B650 with USB4 and WiFi 7) is more than enough for a gaming system.

The 5000X is an excellent case in terms of airflow, build quality, and design.

 

[chrand52]

I’m just gonna bookmark this thread for when benchmarks and prices are released in January, always love saying the line “Told you so!”

Sorry was ment 5200 ram also chasing the gpu trend isn't good the 4090 and 4080 are decent enough for what this person needs as a budget. Also "While there is no formal launch pricing information just yet, we’d expect it to be above the $1,599 asking price of the RTX 4090." 4090 cheap end 2k so 3.5k? Go check a few sources that where right about the 4x series. 6400mhz ? Sweet spot ? Go Google 6400mhz mhz ram crashing in games, had a friend send a pc back here where they had to underclock the ram still had issues and he went to 5200 🤷‍♂️.

My first post ??? Really can't think of anything other to post 🤣

 

[Ekans2011]

6400mhz ? Sweet spot ? Go Google 6400mhz mhz ram crashing in games, had a friend send a pc back here where they had to underclock the ram still had issues and he went to 5200 🤷‍♂️.

Yes, AMD stated that this is the sweetspot frequency for their Ryzen 7000 and 9000 processors.

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[SpyderTracks]

Sorry was ment 5200 ram also chasing the gpu trend isn't good the 4090 and 4080 are decent enough for what this person needs as a budget. Also "While there is no formal launch pricing information just yet, we’d expect it to be above the $1,599 asking price of the RTX 4090." 4090 cheap end 2k so 3.5k? Go check a few sources that where right about the 4x series. 6400mhz ? Sweet spot ?

I never mentioned a 90 tier GPU anywhere at all, so that’s a completely irrelevant thing to bring into the conversation.

I Never mentioned a 90 tier GPU so that’s was a completely irrelevant thing to bring into the conversation.

4090 was regularly seen at £1600 when it was actually made, it wasn’t £2k until later on in the lifecycle mainly when they’d stopped manufacturing it.

In Wukong, the 4080 can barely achieve 60fps at 1080p, and there are now a few games like that,

And it’s not just me suggesting people wait, it’s across professional viewpoints as well, and it’s not specific to the 5000 launch, it’s the same at the end of any generation once they stop production and pricing increases (skip to 1:42)

Go check a few sources that where right about the 4x series. 6400mhz ? Sweet spot ? Go Google 6400mhz mhz ram crashing in games, had a friend send a pc back here where they had to underclock the ram still had issues and he went to 5200 🤷‍♂️.

Oh, and has no clue about hardware either! What the hell is a “4x series”? Do you mean 400 series mobos that are on DDR4 anyway? If you’re trying to overclock DDR4 above 3600MHz no wonder it’s failing! Doesn’t make any sense.

If you don’t understand how to achieve stability on a 600 or 800 series board at 6400MHz then you shouldn’t own a gaming pc as you’re severely lacking in skills required to use it

Just because you have no clue how this works doesn’t mean you need to hand out uneducated and false guesses to people out of ignorance.

 

[TonyCarter]

If you want proof of the price about 15 months ago, here's my Scan invoice to show the price I paid for an RTX4090FE...

 

[TonyCarter]

6400mhz ? Sweet spot ? Go Google 6400mhz mhz ram crashing in games, had a friend send a pc back here where they had to underclock the ram still had issues and he went to 5200 🤷‍♂️.

I've got Corsair Dominator Platinum 6400MHz that has been stable since I bought the PC...and recently noticed it had a second 6600MHz profile that I've switched to. Still stable in games and Adobe Creative Suite.

My first post ??? Really can't think of anything other to post 🤣

Maybe consider another carer career choice, other than forum troll then (I think that role is already taken)

 

[t_dawg]

Wow this thread escalated quickly 😅. I think I’m going to stick with the original advice and go with my build, built for 1440p UW. Thanks again guys.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Wow this thread escalated quickly 😅. I think I’m going to stick with the original advice and go with my build, built for 1440p UW. Thanks again guys.

You have to come down hard on trolls posting stuff they have absolutely no understanding of.

I own a wide aspect ratio (superwide) 1440 and a 4k gaming monitor. since going to wide aspect I’ve never gone back to standard, even at 4k, the immersion that ultrawide / superwide provides is far more valuable than going up to 4k imho

 

[t_dawg]

Ordered. Thanks for your help again guys much appreciated.