Here we are, I call it Behemoth

[Scott]

Scott,

As usual sublime, and I'd be hard pressed to argue otherwise, and on price v performance absolutely no contest. But it is a business expense, which I depreciate over 2 years, the marginal differences are negligible.

I will admit, I had a certain aesthetic bias in what I could easily configure and so I made my choices. Human decisions are often more emotional than pragmatic.

Apart from mere performance, or performance per cost on the capex I still have two niggling concessions, which are seldom considered, and perhaps 3.

Sheer performance difference here is for the most part imperceptible, but:

1. the Ryzen does what it does way cheaper on power ( that's big, cant write that off in the business sense)
2. 7nm vs 14nm - massive technological difference, and advantage
3. 4 more cores... useful for my usecase

Not to mention issues with Intel, per se


All said and done, I'll get the job I want done, done. albeit it could have been done better. My old PCS beast (10 years old next month - where does the time go), now being retired to a server (and running my very own flavour of linux, dalix (no arrogance here lol) - is still exceptionally capable - amazingly so.


And I'll do well to be a bit less hasty in 2 years time.

Thanks for the input Scott

It's a monster system, there's absolutely no doubt. It's a powerhouse.

We just always want people to get the best for their money. We are enthusiasts and passionate about it.

The one thing you don't seem to have taken into consideration has been the platform. The X299 socket is finished. The AM4 socket still has some life left in it and should happily house the next generation chip. It also has PCIe-4.0 which allows for the next generation (or 3) of GPU.

Having gone down that route, in 2 years time you would be throwing in a new Chip & GPU and being back to full poowaaarrr

Regarding the aesthetic, I only chose the Fractal as it houses the H115i, which is what you would want with any high end system (keep an eye on your temps when running all cores btw).

For the extra cash I would ALWAYS choose the 500D SE (It's soooooo purdyyyy).

Regardless, you'll be happy. I was just explaining my reasoning.

 

[daleman]

Here you go. Only upgrade was a Crucial 512Gb SSD drive as boot drive/ program installation drive:#


Case
InWIN BLACK DRAGON RIDER GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i7-2600k Quad Core (3.40GHz @ max 4.80GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® P8P67 PRO (NEW REV 3.0): USB 3.0/SATA 6Gb/s, CrossFireX™ & SLI
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI, HDMI, VGA - (Special Offer)
2nd Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI, HDMI, VGA - (Special Offer)
1st Storage Drive
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
2nd Storage Drive
2TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD2002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
12x BLU-RAY WRITER DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TX SERIES (TX750) 80+ ULTRA QUIET PSU
Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO A.L.C (ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC COOLING MX-3 HIGH THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ Xtreme Gamer
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD

 

[daleman]

It's a monster system, there's absolutely no doubt. It's a powerhouse.

We just always want people to get the best for their money. We are enthusiasts and passionate about it.

The one thing you don't seem to have taken into consideration has been the platform. The X299 socket is finished. The AM4 socket still has some life left in it and should happily house the next generation chip. It also has PCIe-4.0 which allows for the next generation (or 3) of GPU.

Having gone down that route, in 2 years time you would be throwing in a new Chip & GPU and being back to full poowaaarrr

Regarding the aesthetic, I only chose the Fractal as it houses the H115i, which is what you would want with any high end system (keep an eye on your temps when running all cores btw).

For the extra cash I would ALWAYS choose the 500D SE (It's soooooo purdyyyy).

Regardless, you'll be happy. I was just explaining my reasoning.

Your points are noted and understood, and I probably will be kicking myself slightly in a few months time. Not so much on the cpu, but as you highlight, the X299. Oh well. Threadripper next time lol.

And it's great the advice you give as a lot of people are really at sea (One poster included a Soundblaster as he thought that would make his system faster). My mistakes at least were made with some consideration, even if I was maybe just too hasty to get my order in before doing enough due diligence. Ironically I started out building a threadripper system, and when that "looked" cost-prohibitive. I bailed there. Then saw some comparisons against the 3950X and still stuck with Intel. If I had dug a little deeper...

Anyhoo. "It's all fun and games until someone losses an eye" - James Hetfield \m/


PS 500D SE ?

 

[Scott]

500D SE.... and believe me, pics don't do it justice.

 

[SpyderTracks]

500D SE.... and believe me, pics don't do it justice.

It is a stupidly pretty case.

 

[daleman]

It does indeed look BEAUTIFUL!!!!

Hey fun Friday fact - in 1975, the worlds most powerful then supercomputer was born, The Cray 1 - Coming in at (then!) $8million + $1million for the disk unit. It was able to perform a whopping 160 MFLOPS. 8.39 MB of ram, 303 MB disk storage, and required around 115kW of power to run!!

You could easily emulate it on your phone! We've come a long way

 

[Scott]

TBH I think my watch may have that covered now

 

[daleman]

TBH I think my watch may have that covered now

Probably lol... or your toaster... have a great weekend... I'm off to check if Corsair do a 115kW power supply

 

[Scott]

If they do, make sure it's at least an RMx.

 

[briggm]

Hey fun Friday fact - in 1975, the worlds most powerful then supercomputer was born, The Cray 1 - Coming in at (then!) $8million + $1million for the disk unit. It was able to perform a whopping 160 MFLOPS. 8.39 MB of ram, 303 MB disk storage, and required around 115kW of power to run!!

Where can I buy this beast?! 😆

 

[ubuysa]

One of the earlier IBM mainframes I worked on (early 80s) was the 3081. It had a single core CPU, 1GB of RAM, and something like 10GB of disk space. It was big at the time, though pitiful by today's standards, yet we supported almost 2000 concurrent users with near sub-second response times.

Some years later I went for a job interview at Harwell research lab, they were using an old IBM 3084 (four CPUs) to 'feed' a Cray 1 and they needed someone to support the 3084. I didn't take the job though.

 

[Deleted member 94250]

Over 9000

cough cough Vegeta

 

[daleman]

So amazingly, 6 months have passed, and now is the time to reflect. Would a threadripper have been better? Very possibly. Spyder and Scott, very graciously said most likely. And this still maybe be true. However, Intel troubles notwithstanding, this Behemoth still runs all 4 monitors better than I could have hoped for. This machine handles everything I throw at it, and I have none of the issues that I see in the tech help.

So Happy 2021 guys - a more savvy crowd, nobody could wish for!