High Temps on startup/idle

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alexneo200

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Hi there, i have the following BRAND NEW setup and the laptop when it starts , with HWmonitor open i can see temps hitting 97C and idling in 50-60 with 0 % usage on cpu , is this normal ?

Chassis & Display
Elimina Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader

Im affraid to undervolt or modify anything as my previous laptop got bricked and apparently the motherboard was damaged , however a guy from my country managed to fix that with 30 pounds , not like pc specialist asking 750 quid :) however that is not the topic , sorry for off-topic

Is Thrtottle stop safe to use ? i just want to set -50mv and disable the turbo boost as the laptop is used for now only for university and study as i have a pc for heavy stuff (11700K 3080 32 GB, 4 TB SSD)
 
Tron1982

Tron1982

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Hellow,

I'm not sure about undervolting, but throttle stop is as "safe" as possible because you don't touch the bios or anything, you apply a software "layer" to reduce the voltage.
This said, you have to know that if a third party (so, not you or pcs) open the laptop, it will be void the warranty ^^

Moreover, when you say your cpu reach 97°C, what are you doing in the same time ?

Finally, you have to know that intel cpu are design to support at least 105°C before throttle, so, 97°C, even if it's hot, is okay
 
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alexneo200 said:
Hi there, i have the following BRAND NEW setup and the laptop when it starts , with HWmonitor open i can see temps hitting 97C and idling in 50-60 with 0 % usage on cpu , is this normal ?

Chassis & Display
Elimina Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 11800H (2.3GHz, 4.6GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 3200MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3050 - 4.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st M.2 SSD Drive
250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB Samsung 870 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 560MB/sR | 530MB/sW)
Memory Card Reader
Integrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader

Im affraid to undervolt or modify anything as my previous laptop got bricked and apparently the motherboard was damaged , however a guy from my country managed to fix that with 30 pounds , not like pc specialist asking 750 quid :) however that is not the topic , sorry for off-topic

Is Thrtottle stop safe to use ? i just want to set -50mv and disable the turbo boost as the laptop is used for now only for university and study as i have a pc for heavy stuff (11700K 3080 32 GB, 4 TB SSD)
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Temps should be far lower than that, suggests a bad paste job. I would repaste to get temps under control before even thinking about any undervolt

You haven't posted your full specs, did you order with windows or without?
 
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alexneo200

Member
its without windows , i installed windows after , profile is on balanced , and also the laptop is new , like 1 month or something like that , so i cant repaste if that is the case of a bad paste apply .
 
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alexneo200

Member
Tron1982 said:
Hellow,

I'm not sure about undervolting, but throttle stop is as "safe" as possible because you don't touch the bios or anything, you apply a software "layer" to reduce the voltage.
This said, you have to know that if a third party (so, not you or pcs) open the laptop, it will be void the warranty ^^

Moreover, when you say your cpu reach 97°C, what are you doing in the same time ?

Finally, you have to know that intel cpu are design to support at least 105°C before throttle, so, 97°C, even if it's hot, is okay
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I do nothing , i just check the temps while the pc 'settles down' to 0 % usage of cpu...
 
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alexneo200

Member
i think its the thermal paste application wrong, i did undervolt - 50 cpu core and cache and reduced the boost clocks from 4.6 default to all cores 3.6 ... instead of 95 in test bench i get 93 C ... so clearly has to be the paste or god forbid the screws are not tight enough on the cpu plate ?
 
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alexneo200 said:
i think its the thermal paste application wrong, i did undervolt - 50 cpu core and cache and reduced the boost clocks from 4.6 default to all cores 3.6 ... instead of 95 in test bench i get 93 C ... so clearly has to be the paste or god forbid the screws are not tight enough on the cpu plate ?
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Undervolting does not correct temps, that's not what it's for. It's to further optimise temps when it's performing properly.

If the temps are high it's because of bad paste job or incorrectly applied heatsink or problems with fans.
 
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alexneo200

Member
i mean , when the temps spike to 95 , it takes like 5-6 for the fans to realise ... ok , the temps are high , we need to kick in.
 
SpyderTracks

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alexneo200 said:
i mean , when the temps spike to 95 , it takes like 5-6 for the fans to realise ... ok , the temps are high , we need to kick in.
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Yeah, that's expected, fans only react to temps.

CPU temps shift from second to second, they don't gently increase, a CPU can go from 30c to 100c within a second. Sensors take time to respond.
 
KriSta

KriSta

Silver Level Poster
Also bear in mind that 11th gen Intel i7 and i9 CPUs are known to run hot in general , they are not as power effiicient as AMD Ryzen CPUs . So even a very well maintained and optimized laptop might see 85-90 degrees at load , sometimes a tad higher . This is expected and within tolerances of these Intel CPU`s .
 
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