How do you think this will perform?

[marcap]

Hi guys, close to buying a PCS desktop, came up with this spec.
Going to be using it for gaming, Fifa, Sims, rts games, but also music production.
move gone with an AMD 5700XT as my monitor suppports freesync.

Also, would games run fine from the normal HDD? 2TB M.2 is a bit expensive.

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current monitor:
Samsung 32" LC32JG53FDUXEN Full HD 144Hz Curved Gaming Monitor

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX MB600L CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.7GHz/73MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
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64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
8GB AMD RADEON™ RX 5700 XT - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
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1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
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[SpyderTracks]

What monitor are you pairing it with, what make and model?

Nvidia cards also support freesync and we'd always recommend them over AMD cards because of general driver issues with AMD cards.

What's your max budget?

 

[marcap]

Hi pal, monitor is mentioned above.

My issue with freesync and nvidia is if my monitor is compatible with nvidia’s version of it.

At the min I’m trying to keep around the £2500 mark, but I am flexible a little.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi pal, monitor is mentioned above.

My issue with freesync and nvidia is if my monitor is compatible with nvidia’s version of it.

At the min I’m trying to keep around the £2500 mark, but I am flexible a little.

That monitor is going to be very poor for any modern system, I would sincerely recommend upgrading it to 1440p 144Hz.

 

[marcap]

I bought it a month ago so I won’t be upgrading for a long time 😂.

1080p is fine for me. It does go up to 144hz though.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I bought it a month ago so I won’t be upgrading for a long time 😂.

1080p is fine for me. It does go up to 144hz though.

@Nursemorph system above is far more suitable then.

 

[marcap]

Hi guys, building up my spec for a desktop, looking at the Ryzen 3950x, ASU’s Rog Hero VIII and 32gb vengeance 3200 ram.

Why do PCS only allow 16gb of 3600 ram during the configuration? Ideally I want 32gb of 3600. So, along with the first question, is it possible to over clock the ram?

thank you

 

[marcap]

Hi guys, you don’t happen to know which brand of Radeon 5700XT gpu PCS use?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi guys, you don’t happen to know which brand of Radeon 5700XT gpu PCS use?

It’s XFX or someone else, but don’t know the second.

We would strongly recommend not using AMD GPU’s though as they’ve still got ongoing driver issues.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi guys, building up my spec for a desktop, looking at the Ryzen 3950x, ASU’s Rog Hero VIII and 32gb vengeance 3200 ram.

Why do PCS only allow 16gb of 3600 ram during the configuration? Ideally I want 32gb of 3600. So, along with the first question, is it possible to over clock the ram?

thank you

As above, you’re needlessly over speccing the machine. For 1080p, you don’t need anything over the 1660 Super. And there’s zero benefit to getting over the 3700x for gaming.

I believe you’re free to overclock ram, bit why do you want 32gb? Won’t make any difference to gaming.

Unless you’re requirements have changed?

 

[marcap]

As above, you’re needlessly over speccing the machine. For 1080p, you don’t need anything over the 1660 Super. And there’s zero benefit to getting over the 3700x for gaming.

I believe you’re free to overclock ram, bit why do you want 32gb? Won’t make any difference to gaming.

Unless you’re requirements have changed?

hi pal, I’m also using it for music production, so I need as fast as I can get for my money.

music production is probably one of the most cpu intense applications.

 

[marcap]

hi pal, I’m also using it for music production, so I need as fast as I can get for my money.

music production is probably one of the most cpu intense applications.

what driver issues appear with AMD pal?

my monitor isn’t g sync compatible so AMD will give me smoother gameplay with freesync.

 

[SpyderTracks]

music production is probably one of the most cpu intense applications.

Lols, not really. Unless you’re doing 256 channel live recording or something?

What DAW do you use? How many channels do you use roughly on average?

what driver issues appear with AMD pal?

Black screens, stuttering, and general bsods, been going on for over a year now:

Everyone loses if AMD doesn’t fix its driver issues before Big Navi’s release date

It's not only AMD fans who should want Navi's driver bugs squished...

www.pcgamesn.com

my monitor isn’t g sync compatible so AMD will give me smoother gameplay with freesync.

NVidia GPU’s do both gsync and freesync, AMD cards only do freesync as said previously.

 

[Notapcspecialist]

Have you listened to any of the advice?!

 

[marcap]

Have you listened to any of the advice?!

No, that’s why I’m engaging in more questions. What was the point of your reply?

 

[marcap]

Lols, not really. Unless you’re doing 256 channel live recording or something?

What DAW do you use? How many channels do you use roughly on average?


Black screens, stuttering, and general bsods, been going on for over a year now:

Everyone loses if AMD doesn’t fix its driver issues before Big Navi’s release date

It's not only AMD fans who should want Navi's driver bugs squished...

www.pcgamesn.com

NVidia GPU’s do both gsync and freesync, AMD cards only do freesync as said previously.

I use FL Studio pal. Use a lot of Kontakt and Omnisphere banks. Depending on the track, 70+ mixer channels with bus routing. A lot of heavy spire synth use which kills my current laptop.

I didn’t know that nVidia done freesync also, thought it was AMD only. I’ll have a Google. Thank you.

 

[SpyderTracks]

No, that’s why I’m engaging in more questions. What was the point of your reply?

He does have a point, most of this has already been covered.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I use FL Studio pal. Use a lot of Kontakt and Omnisphere banks. Depending on the track, 70+ mixer channels with bus routing. A lot of heavy spire synth use which kills my current laptop.

I didn’t know that nVidia done freesync also, thought it was AMD only. I’ll have a Google. Thank you.

FL is tiny on resources, you really don't need anything over the 3900x, just pointless. Even the 3900x is overspecced, but your budget obviously allows it:


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[marcap]

FL is tiny on resources, you really don't need anything over the 3900x, just pointless. Even the 3900x is overspecced, but your budget obviously allows it:


Case
FRACTAL MESHIFY C BLACK GAMING CASE (Window)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.6GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
6GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1660 SUPER - HDMI, DP - GeForce GTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
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MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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thanks for that pal.
Yea FL doesn’t use that much. It’s the third party vsts, synths, libraries that eat it up. Plus I route everything to bus channels.
Hate rendering to audio to save CPU lol.

I appreciate you’re help pal

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yea FL doesn’t use that much. It’s the third party vsts, synths, libraries that eat it up. Plus I route everything to bus channels.
Hate rendering to audio to save CPU lol.

I use Logic Pro which is far more resouce intensive on a 4th gen quad core i7 with 8Gb RAM, I have the Native Instruments full suite of plugins, plus various others for orchestral arrangements which are incredibly resource intensive. I've never had an issue with that configuration.

Audio work doesn't take much resources until you're talking over 250 channels. When it does, at the level you're talking about, it's usually down to dodgy VST's that are filled with bugs, or something wrong with windows configuration.

That chip has 24 virtual cores, believe me, it's only going to be using about 40% of the processor power at full pelt for what you're describing, it's completely overspecced. That's assuming windows and plugins are legit and setup correctly.