I Changed my intel build to an AMD one instead.

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Wizy

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My previous build specs included an Intel i9 14900ks. Everything with this build is
basically the same, just with an AMD cpu instead.

With everything that's going on with the Intel 13th and 14th gen issues, it
only seemed sensible to switch. With the added bonus of learning
the A5 motherboards will work With newer AMD Chip sets, or at least
until 2027 leaving some room for upgrading.

I went for the Ryzen 9 7950X3D as I play a lot of games, various titles from FPS and single player games.
4K gaming is a must as i've just bought a 4k UHD 160hz monitor to accompany my previous intel build.

I also do quite a bit of Graphic Design work primarily in the Adobe Suite.

I've heard that the Ryzen 9 7950X3D might not work with my RAM I have chosen
as its 6000Mhz instead of 5200MHz which is recommended.

So the question I ask to anyone willing to answer. Am I making the right choice?
Or should I roll the silicon lottery and go for Intel.

Thanks in advance.


Case
LIAN LI O11DYNAMIC EVO RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16 Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.7GHz/144MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG CROSSHAIR X670E HERO (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS TUF GEFORCE RTX 4090 OC EDITION OG - 2x HDMI, 3x DP
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS ARGB GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair ICUE LINK QX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
 
Scoped Badger

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Whatever you do, do not, under any circumstances, go for an Intel CPU. It’s just not worth the risk.

There are a couple of minor alterations that could be made to the above build. Could you post the full specs including the configuration link? It makes it easier to make changes.

What’s your max budget?
 
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Wizy

Member
Scoped Badger said:
Whatever you do, do not, under any circumstances, go for an Intel CPU. It’s just not worth the risk.

There are a couple of minor alterations that could be made to the above build. Could you post the full specs including the configuration link? It makes it easier to make changes.

What’s your max budget?
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Max budget is £4600.

4k gaming is basically essential.

I also have a few questions:
1.Will AMDs future CPU's work with this current build or will I have to change motherboard?
2. Should I change RAM to DDR5 5200Mhz.
The only reason I ask this is because I've read that the Ryzen 9 7950X3D runs best at this memory type?
over the DDR5 6000Mhz.
3. Is this build future proof, how long will it be until I need a full upgrade.

Thanks
 
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TonyCarter

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  1. AMD have recently committed to supporting this AM5 platform until 2027, was originally 2025 (so as the latest CPUs are the 9000 series, it will probably support the next 11000 series CPUs when they come out in 18 months or so).
  2. Is your graphic design stuff in Adobe Creative suite? Is there any 3D/rendering involved?? If not, the extra cores of the 7950X3D will not make it any faster than the 7800X3D.
  3. 6000MHz and above RAM has not been a problem since the very early days of the new AM5 motherboards (I run 6400Mhz on mine, and haven't had a single issue); once you start to get over 64GB and have to run 4 sticks, then the speeds can become an issue as there's a lack of memory controllers to allow them to run at full bandwidth.
 
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Wizy

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TonyCarter said:
  1. AMD have recently committed to supporting this AM5 platform until 2027, was originally 2025 (so as the latest CPUs are the 9000 series, it will probably support the next 11000 series CPUs when they come out in 18 months or so).
  2. Is your graphic design stuff in Adobe Creative suite? Is there any 3D/rendering involved?? If not, the extra cores of the 7950X3D will not make it any faster than the 7800X3D.
  3. 6000MHz and above RAM has not been a problem since the very early days of the new AM5 motherboards (I run 6400Mhz on mine, and haven't had a single issue); once you start to get over 64GB and have to run 4 sticks, then the speeds can become an issue as there's a lack of memory controllers to allow them to run at full bandwidth.
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Thank you, that does put things into perspective. I do some 3D work but rarely I was just under the assumption that the 7800X3D was purely for gaming and the 7950X3D has a bit of both productivity/Gaming.

Would you use the motherboard I have chosen or go for a cheaper option.
I want to future proof this pc as much as possible.

In the configuration link I attached is there anything you would change?
 
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TonyCarter

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I really don't see a need for the Crosshair motherboard, as it offers very little over the Strix version for its £200 premium. Same with the Asus TUF 4090 OC. I'd use that saved £400 elsewhere...

Don't forget that even a 4090 cannot guarantee 160 FPS at 4K, as that will depend on the game and the graphical settings you choose (especially anything using UE5 - just see the Black Myth: Wukong thread for my laughable ultrawide 1440p max settings <60fps results).

Case
LIAN LI O11DYNAMIC EVO RGB GAMING CASE - no change
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5) - unless you do a lot of multi-core workloads, then this will be faster & more efficient; if your usage changes, you could easily swap this to the next gen 9950X3D/11950X3D as needed on the same motherboard
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E) - £200 cheaper for no significant change in performance/capabilities
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 32GB) - no change
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP - non-Asus version, 10% cheaper for a tiny bit less performance
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CRUCIAL T705 GEN 5 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 14,500MB/sR, 12,700MB/sW) - extremely fast gen5 m.2
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W) - no change
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W) - no change
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1500W HXi SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET - latest ATX3.1 / PCIe 5.0 spec PSU with plenty of headroom for your current build and probably for any CPU/GPU you'd fit in the next 5-10 years
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK H150i RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER - swapped this to the ICUE LINK version to match the additional fans you select...will also mean you have a single controller to worry about
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair ICUE LINK QX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit - no change
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £3,991.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/jYcUBm2r7g/
 
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Wizy

Member
TonyCarter said:
I really don't see a need for the Crosshair motherboard, as it offers very little over the Strix version for its £200 premium. Same with the Asus TUF 4090 OC. I'd use that saved £400 elsewhere...

Don't forget that even a 4090 cannot guarantee 160 FPS at 4K, as that will depend on the game and the graphical settings you choose (especially anything using UE5 - just see the Black Myth: Wukong thread for my laughable ultrawide 1440p max settings <60fps results).

Case
LIAN LI O11DYNAMIC EVO RGB GAMING CASE - no change
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5) - unless you do a lot of multi-core workloads, then this will be faster & more efficient; if your usage changes, you could easily swap this to the next gen 9950X3D/11950X3D as needed on the same motherboard
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E) - £200 cheaper for no significant change in performance/capabilities
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 32GB) - no change
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090 - HDMI, DP - non-Asus version, 10% cheaper for a tiny bit less performance
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB CRUCIAL T705 GEN 5 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 14,500MB/sR, 12,700MB/sW) - extremely fast gen5 m.2
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W) - no change
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W) - no change
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1500W HXi SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET - latest ATX3.1 / PCIe 5.0 spec PSU with plenty of headroom for your current build and probably for any CPU/GPU you'd fit in the next 5-10 years
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre IEC C19 UK Power Cable
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK H150i RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER - swapped this to the ICUE LINK version to match the additional fans you select...will also mean you have a single controller to worry about
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair ICUE LINK QX120 RGB PWM Fan + Controller Kit - no change
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £3,991.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/jYcUBm2r7g/
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Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out! I've taken into account your changes.
Swapped the CPU to the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, with the intent on being able to upgrade later.
Swapped the OC to the normal GTX 4090. (that change makes a lot of sense)
I've decided to keep the Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Hero, purely for aesthetic reasons. I'm not a huge fan of the white on the other motherboard and not sure if it will look as clean. Although I have heard the stories of Crosshair X670E over volting AMD Cpu's, can we categorically say Asus have fixed this issue with this specific board or should I change to the one you suggested because of this reason?
Swapped the Power supply to make upgrading easier.
Also changed the cooler to the Icue link variant so they link easier with my other fans. I do plan on having the case completely icue link in the future but PCspecialist don't have an option to purchase 7, only 4 fans for some reason.

Thank you again for your help. I plan on purchasing this pc early next week!
 
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TonyCarter

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I'v only got the ROG Strix X670E-A, but I've not had any problems at all - no RAM issues (other than the initial slow starting due to over-zealous memory training); not had a crash from anything other than Asus Armoury Crate (which is now completely uninstalled...only installed it to trigger ICUE into detecting the motherboard & GPU plug-ins).

I just didn't think the extra £200 was worth it for mostly the same components (a slightly higher quality audio chip/codec).

But yes, I don't know why there isn't a simple black option in that model...although once everything else is attached to the motherboard, you can't see lots of white (and it's more a brushed alu than white)...this is it in mine (with lots of iCUE Link fans of various sizes)...

IMG_6676.jpg


If you want more iCUE LINK fans, you can either call them after you place your build, to ask them to add more...or just order a set (3x120 or 3x140) from somewhere else and add them yourself. As it's iCUE LINK, it's simply one cable (USB-type connection) and the fans simply snap into each other with no extra cabling.
 
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TonyCarter

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BTW, I assure you those 3 bottom fans are all 140mm ones...there isn't a strange 200mm one on the RHS.

Must be an automatic macro fisheye lens effect of my phone.
 
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Martinr36

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TonyCarter said:
BTW, I assure you those 3 bottom fans are all 140mm ones...there isn't a strange 200mm one on the RHS.

Must be an automatic macro fisheye lens effect of my phone.
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I trust they aren't aren't on extract, otherwise it might hover above the desktop :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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TonyCarter

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Manually disabled the 'macro' zoom, and they all look fairly similar now...
IMG_6677.jpg


But now I notice the Asus motherboard RGB has stopped following the colour scheme I set in iCUE (GPU is still doing so though) :rolleyes:
 
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