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It's kinda certain really X670 is not a viable solution in most cases, think B650 is going to be the mainstream adoption, which means no PCIe 5 NVME capability. Unless Newegg has just listed placeholders and they're not the actual prices.
It's kinda certain really X670 is not a viable solution in most cases, think B650 is going to be the mainstream adoption, which means no PCIe 5 NVME capability. Unless Newegg has just listed placeholders and they're not the actual prices.
SpyderTracks
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This is a really interesting thermal test by Der8uer on normal Ryzen 7900x and one with the IHS removed entirely and cooler placed direct to silicon with liquid metal paste
It would be liquid metal between the silicon and the IHS so does suggest that the pure thickness of the IHS may be playing a large part in such high temps.
It would be liquid metal between the silicon and the IHS so does suggest that the pure thickness of the IHS may be playing a large part in such high temps.
SimonPeters116
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I wish I could wait that long. But my present computer is so old, I can't play Days Gone in anything like "all its glory".It's official. I'm waiting for the 3D option.
My main enjoyment is FS2020 so no way I'm going to plum for a 7900X when the 5800X3D out-performs it
So, I've just bought one with a 7700X. That should keep me going for a few years. I'll put a 2070 Super into it, to drive the new monitor I'm also buying, just to tide me over until the 4060/70s come on stream. I'll decide if I need one of those then. They'll drive the cost of 3060/70s down too, if the 40** is much more than I need. Then I'll consider a 7700X3D, if such a chip is released 😃
I think most would expect that to be the case. AMD are going hard for Intel with the aggressive setup.
AMD chips now offer seriously good overheads for overclocking etc.
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Just watching this, they're heavily commenting on AMD's Eco Mode which is a new thing on Zen 4. Watch from the beginning for the Eco Mode bit.
It wasn't available in the driver on Day One, but has now been properly implemented, and apparently performance is hardly touched but power is significantly reduced.
Full benchmarks are on the way
This for me is incredibly promising as it's an area I'm really passionate about, I want as low power consumption as I can achieve while still having really good performance
It wasn't available in the driver on Day One, but has now been properly implemented, and apparently performance is hardly touched but power is significantly reduced.
Full benchmarks are on the way
This for me is incredibly promising as it's an area I'm really passionate about, I want as low power consumption as I can achieve while still having really good performance
Reading between the lines I kind of saw that coming. AMD have been very clever here and they have done the opposite of what Intel tend to do.
If you think about Intel, they set the boost clocks at a default that all chips can achieve, and then allow users to boost their clocks based on the binning by adding voltage & heat.
What AMD seem to have done, is find the mean maximum that these chips can run regardless of bin and then enabled a mode where the power gets capped and the binning determines how well they boost.
It's a very different way of doing things IMO but it's also very clever. It's very strange how they have gone about it though. Is this a deliberately planted easter egg? I don't think they've played that hand the best way that they could, but I'm glad that it's far more sensible on the power front with that mode enabled.
Eco mode for most scenarios, non-Eco for max performance. Best of both worlds with no down side?
It also gives more hope for the 3D offerings. Rumour has it they'll only drop 1-200mhz on the boost clocks, which would be a fantastic return. My guess is the 3D offerings will possibly be reduced power versions of the current chips with the stacked cache, Eco mode = 3D default.
If you think about Intel, they set the boost clocks at a default that all chips can achieve, and then allow users to boost their clocks based on the binning by adding voltage & heat.
What AMD seem to have done, is find the mean maximum that these chips can run regardless of bin and then enabled a mode where the power gets capped and the binning determines how well they boost.
It's a very different way of doing things IMO but it's also very clever. It's very strange how they have gone about it though. Is this a deliberately planted easter egg? I don't think they've played that hand the best way that they could, but I'm glad that it's far more sensible on the power front with that mode enabled.
Eco mode for most scenarios, non-Eco for max performance. Best of both worlds with no down side?
It also gives more hope for the 3D offerings. Rumour has it they'll only drop 1-200mhz on the boost clocks, which would be a fantastic return. My guess is the 3D offerings will possibly be reduced power versions of the current chips with the stacked cache, Eco mode = 3D default.
Charlielrb
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Has Anyone got a AM5 Build from PCS yet? Dispatched etc?
Martinr36
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Rumors that X3D announcement is coming late January
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AMD to Announce the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 9 7900X3D, 7950X in January 2023 [Rumor] | Hardware Times
AMD will announce its Zen 4-based 3D V-Cache processors at CES 2023 next January, thereby retaking the gaming crown from Raptor Lake. A report from WCCFTech claims that Team Red will launch more than one Ryzen 7000X3D CPU this New Year with increased boost clocks and 3x L3 cache. The 5800X3D was...
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I'm confused by the 5800X3D comment. I'm hoping it refers to the 7800X3D as I recall reading something about that. A 5800X3D at 5.5Ghz without some serious press doesn't sound likely...... and wouldn't make sense in the context really.
A 5.5Ghz 7800X3D will truly be a force to be reckoned with if the 5800X3D progression is linear.
A 5.5Ghz 7800X3D will truly be a force to be reckoned with if the 5800X3D progression is linear.
SimonPeters116
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Give it a few more days. Mine is In-Testing now.
I should have it by the end of this week 😃
Can we have this slogan on a T-shirt, please?
B4zookaw
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Single B650 board now available on PCS. Supply of B650 seems to be poorer that X670 boards, doesn't help in achieving better value vs Intel 12th or 13th Gen.
SimonPeters116
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YES! 😁
It arrived on Tuesday afternoon, specs in my sig', bottom of my posts.
I've now, more or less, got to grips with Windows 11. Got everything swapped over from old PC to new.
Downloaded updates, programs I want and games.
Photo's of the new PC, with benchmark results, tomorrow 😃
And squeaky clean cable management, I hope 🫣
TonyCarter
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…and a nice wolf-hide covered case to keep eveything warm 🤣
SimonPeters116
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It keeps itself warm enough without 😃
It isn't horrendous, and I'll hide the rest 😃
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