Is This Good? (1080p Gaming/Audio Workstation/Chrome)

EeveeonE

Member
okay, anyone that said that was okay really does not understand PC’s, electronics or thermal requirements.

The very minimum is a 750 PSU, however that is a brand new PSU with no ageing applied.

It also means that PSU is going to be operating the majority of its life well over 80% of its range.

This means the PSU will not be operating efficiently, it will cost more real money to run (household electricity).

It will also be pushing out more heat (remember the heat).


the CPU, graphics card, PSU and RAM will each generate heat, the motherboard chosen will almost be like a heat sink, the chipset needs cooling, VRMs need to be really good for the components you have added.

so we have a PSU operating inefficiently and kicking out heat, the motherboard will be radiating heat.

As you want a air cooler, it will be moving that warm air around the case.

Now with a good case, say LL fans fitted, then they may keep things cool.

However a cheap case is not going to have the same level of cooling capability.

This means your heat from all components will simply not be shifted efficiently and likely result in thermal overloading.


You are then compounding this by restricting the airflow even further.

Air has a natural boundary flow over an object, this means you run risk of recirculating that air back in to the case.


my 2010 PC had a 650w PSU, I have a 750w on my new one simply to handle a 3060 Ti

my 2010 and 2008 rigs were both liquid cooled with no problems.


We are not being awkward or anything, we are simply trying to get you a system that meets your requirements.

To get a specific cool pc to meet your exact requirements, may mean building it yourself, as simply fitting high value, high power components in to low value low capacity / capability parts is just not what anyone would feel comfortable recommending.
I see. I don't really know then. PC Specialist seems to think all these parts are compatible though. My current case is a Sharktoon T9. It sucks. Drive bays in the way, tiny window.

I had considered a Lian Li for the original build, but kinda scrapped the idea due to height restrictions. I don't know how to cool a motherboard so I don't know what to do there. My current PC holds up okay in heat.

I kinda need to know if the new build is fine. (Downgraded NVME because I did a little more research, figured that it would be better to have more storage for software and neck and neck read writes with other M.2s. I would like to have money left over, I'm not trying to top the budget, I just want something that is usable for the next 5+ years)

Case
NZXT H511 MID-TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 665p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2000MB/sR | 1925MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: £0.00 including VAT and Delivery

It literally said 0.00 on the post to forum page. Total is actually £1,896.00
 

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
How do you mean air get trapped, this is my desktop that has 2 exhaust fans in the top, about 30 cm between the top of the PC and the underside of the deskView attachment 21250
I have officially reported you to the RSPCC (Royal Society for Preventing Clogged-up Computers). That's a PC that's crying out to be cleaned! What must it look like inside? You bounder Sir, that's no way to treat a PC. 😖
 

Gavras

Master Poster
Nope sorry you are failing to listen.

joining @MrWilson

before i go, this build is as close I can get to a reasonable build to your budget, you still need to send in your own case as we do not know dimensions etc and there needs to be at least 4 inches clear around the fans, yes you can get less but it runs risk of airflow restrictions.

Case
Send In Your Own Case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: £1,981.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

EeveeonE

Member
I have officially reported you to the RSPCC (Royal Society for Preventing Clogged-up Computers). That's a PC that's crying out to be cleaned! What must it look like inside? You bounder Sir, that's no way to treat a PC. 😖

Nope sorry you are failing to listen.

joining @MrWilson

before i go, this build is as close I can get to a reasonable build to your budget, you still need to send in your own case as we do not know dimensions etc and there needs to be at least 4 inches clear around the fans, yes you can get less but it runs risk of airflow restrictions.

Case
Send In Your Own Case
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 34 to 36 working days
Price: £1,981.00 including VAT and Delivery

The storage isn't necessary, already have. I'm reinstalling the OS to the NVME.

The lack of an explanation as to why those parts are changing is why I'm getting confused. I know what things like VRMs are.
If not, I'll ask.

I'm incapable of buying a case and delivering it, I'm such a useless moron in every area. Not really sure how to demonstrate this without 'Plugging' my work. I can't even trust myself. Kill me.

With the motherboard, does it have to be an X570? It doesn't look like there's a whole lot of difference between the B550 and X570. They have similar specs.

I don't know then. I can't learn what I'm doing wrong if people won't tell me.
 
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steaky360

Moderator
Moderator
Cross Posting as previous thread was locked (giz a heads-up next time @ubuysa ;))

EeveeonE said:
Can we please stick to the topic?
I'm now looking at a

NZXT H511​

which comes with two fans. If that isn't optimal, how do I add a fan? I had a bunch of people say that cases are built for optimal airflow, otherwise they wouldn't be there.

EeveeonE said:
I did, and it got a negative response, and it required me to change the entire spec. My question however isn't about my build, it's about the website configuration (Adding a front fan) And there's nowhere else to ask this question.
Sticking to one thread would've been advantageous and prevented this as I'd have easily seen you'd posted your spec...

Cases don't know what components are going to be installed in them, so generally manufacturers are putting fans in places so their cases are aesthetically pleasing. Typically there will be fans on the front of the case and sometimes a fan in the rear (often as an exhaust). Not all cases do, my case for example (Corsair 500D) did not come with an exhaust fan so I installed one myself (I should add, I very much doubt it made any appreciable difference to my PC).

As far as I'm aware, PCS won't "optomise" air flow, they'll install all your components and then test the system, if it runs without overheating that is their testing complete. If you've added extra fans, they'll install them at the builders discretion, I very much doubt they'll change the fan orientation after build to check an alternative and I don't believe they tend to mess with fan profiles (I could be wrong here though, you'd need to check with PCS to be sure). You will also need to contact PCS directly if you want them to put a fan in a specific place for you.

I've no idea if two fans are optimal or not for your build, it depends on what you're putting in the case. Hence repeatedly asking about your specs. From the other thread, I still have no idea what specs you've landed on, so my question (of what specs you're choosing) is still valid in my eyes.

Which spec are you looking at? The last one you posted or the updated one from @Gavras or something inbetween?
 

EeveeonE

Member
@steaky360

This spec (Everything else I've left out for other reasons):

Case
NZXT H511 MID-TOWER GAMING CASE (BLACK)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.7GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB INTEL® 665p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2000MB/sR | 1925MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Processor Cooling
Noctua NH-U14S Ultra Quiet Performance CPU Cooler


I'm still on the fence about this because, I've heard different opinions. had a subreddit say my previous build (With a Ryzen 9 3900x instead) was viable. But here, apparently everything I've got is wrong. I feel like context is being ignored a lot as well. I switched to a Ryzen 7 5800x for the gaming performance and future proofing (Lasting 5+ years on max-medium1080p/1440p settings) whilst sticking with an RTX 3080. The motherboard, I don't know if it's wrong. I'm still waiting for an explaination as to what the difference between a B550-Plus and an X570. I guess it might be cooling and chipset? But I don't know. The X570 is older. B550 is more recent.

Also, saying it again, my budget is £2000, but I am not looking to spend the entire budget. I just want something capable of gaming, audio workstations, running multiple bloatwares, and possibly multitasking with CPU intensive software and g
 

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
I have officially reported you to the RSPCC (Royal Society for Preventing Clogged-up Computers). That's a PC that's crying out to be cleaned! What must it look like inside? You bounder Sir, that's no way to treat a PC. 😖
Its actually very clean inside, as i did that only a week or so back, as they say you can't tell a book by its cover ;) :ROFLMAO:
 

steaky360

Moderator
Moderator
I have officially reported you to the RSPCC (Royal Society for Preventing Clogged-up Computers). That's a PC that's crying out to be cleaned! What must it look like inside? You bounder Sir, that's no way to treat a PC. 😖
Its actually very clean inside, as i did that only a week or so back, as they say you can't tell a book by its cover ;) :ROFLMAO:
Stay on topic please folk
 

EeveeonE

Member
Just a note: I'm not overclocking. I did it before on my current system. GPU somehow survived a system crash, but the CPU almost didn't. It definitely damaged the CPU, and as a result, reduced the lifespan by 1 year, so no. I'm not overclocking, no matter how much you try to convince me. It will most definitely fail.
 

steaky360

Moderator
Moderator
Just a note: I'm not overclocking. I did it before on my current system. GPU somehow survived a system crash, but the CPU almost didn't. It definitely damaged the CPU, and as a result, reduced the lifespan by 1 year, so no. I'm not overclocking, no matter how much you try to convince me. It will most definitely fail.
I'm confused, no one has mentioned overclocking up until you did just now... No one is trying to convince you to overclock, in-fact I'd bet most people here would urge you not to bother unless you've a specific use case for overclocking (which you appear not to have) :) .
 

EeveeonE

Member
None of us would advise overclocking given your uses. AMD chips have an in-built auto-overclock....basically, the system sees you are using one core and so boosts that core to it's maximum....this is beneficial with gaming where single core performance is paramount; a manual overclock basically sets all the cores to a preset frequency...this would likely be lower than the auto-boost but is advantageous in situations where a static clock speed is helpful (data analysis etc).
That's useful to know, thanks.

Still, very unsure about this build. Someone on r/buildapc is still advising I get 3600Mhz ram, but a 2x16 GB stick instead. And an MSI Motherboard (Due to the updated BIOS).
 

EeveeonE

Member
Don't bother using Chrome. It will eat your RAM up
Tested it. I used Mozilla to test the issue. Same extensions. Same sites. Same problem. I found Mozilla worse for stability due to it crashing a lot when watching streams. So Chrome is my only option. It also eats up CPU. Which is kinda why I wanted the 3900x originally.
 

xKMet

Active member
That's useful to know, thanks.

Still, very unsure about this build. Someone on r/buildapc is still advising I get 3600Mhz ram, but a 2x16 GB stick instead. And an MSI Motherboard (Due to the updated BIOS).
I think the main issue you are having here is you are asking various people on various sites the same questions expecting them to all have the same answer.

It won't work out like that so your going to drive yourself crazy, everyone has there own opinion and most people's opinions are going to be different.

You need to decide which site you trust, and then trust the people who are giving you the advice. If you are ordering from PC Specialist then i would suggest trusting the advice of the people on here... they're not getting anything from this other than trying to help you.

I'm just a customer who has previously sought advice on here before and it has stood me in good stead.

Anyway, hope you get what you want.
 

Gavras

Master Poster
Chrome is the least secure of the lot.

Firefox is just a joke on security.

Lost count on number of vulnerabilities they had to sort end of last year.

link below for 3600 v 3200 real world differences.



one of problems with likes of Reddit is people playing Top Trumps, yeah £60 gets you 2fps ergo pay £60,
 

EeveeonE

Member
I think the main issue you are having here is you are asking various people on various sites the same questions expecting them to all have the same answer.

It won't work out like that so your going to drive yourself crazy, everyone has there own opinion and most people's opinions are going to be different.

You need to decide which site you trust, and then trust the people who are giving you the advice. If you are ordering from PC Specialist then i would suggest trusting the advice of the people on here... they're not getting anything from this other than trying to help you.

I'm just a customer who has previously sought advice on here before and it has stood me in good stead.

Anyway, hope you get what you want.
I know. I'm just paranoid about missing something. People say building a PC is like Lego. Apparently not.
This is my first time designing one.

Also, I got a question about PCS's AM4 Motherboards here. Is the BIOS updated? The reason that guy suggested an MSI Motherboard is because it supports BIOS updates without a CPU. Because currently these boards on the market only support 3000 series CPUs, with ASUS apparently not allowing users to update the BIOS without a compatible CPU. Because the PC won't post if the CPU isn't compatible with the motherboard.
 

xKMet

Active member
I know. I'm just paranoid about missing something. People say building a PC is like Lego. Apparently not.
This is my first time designing one.

Also, I got a question about PCS's AM4 Motherboards here. Is the BIOS updated? The reason that guy suggested an MSI Motherboard is because it supports BIOS updates without a CPU. Because currently these boards on the market only support 3000 series CPUs, with ASUS apparently not allowing users to update the BIOS without a compatible CPU. Because the PC won't post if the CPU isn't compatible with the motherboard.
i got a ROG Strix X570 with a 5900x and they had already updated the BIOS for me so they could do there testing etc.
 
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