Is this system ok?

[DrozenB]

Hi! I'm planning on buying a new computer but I'm not sure if this build is viable, I have a basic understanding of PC building and want to keep a budget of around 1200 pounds. I need a good processor like this one because I love strategy games and they are CPU intensive (mostly paradox interactive titles). I also really want the RTX 2070 SUPER so I can play the latest games with ultra resolution and high framerates, I'm also pretty interested in the RTX technology. I have a spare windows 10 code so I won't be needing another one with the computer. My main concerns with this build is the case, RAM and power supply.

Case
PCS GENESIS G1B CASE + SD CARD READER
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-9700 (3.0GHz) 12MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF B360M-PLUS GAMING: Micro-ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
500GB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 16MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 80 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,180.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-home-office-pc-II/RR8WaAeTwQ/

 

[Oussebon]

RTX 2070 SUPER so I can play the latest games with ultra resolution and high framerates

When you say "ultra resolution" are you talking about 4k gaming e.g. you have a 4k TV or do you just mean you want to texture resolution set to ultra?

What monitor are you gaming on? What is its resolution and refresh rate, or what is the exact model if you don't know?

 

[SlimCini]

Maybe:

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275Q QUIET CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,200.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/SPJ6Z5gzZA/

 

[DrozenB]

When you say "ultra resolution" are you talking about 4k gaming e.g. you have a 4k TV or do you just mean you want to texture resolution set to ultra?

What monitor are you gaming on? What is its resolution and refresh rate, or what is the exact model if you don't know?

I'm planning on buying a 1080p 144Hz monitor for now, but I plan to expand to either a 1440p 144Hz monitor or a 4k 60Hz one. I'm also interested in VR.

 

[DrozenB]

I would need more CPU power, so it would have to be a ryzen 7 3700X, I also only need 1TB of storage:
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275Q QUIET CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER - HDMI, 3x DP GeForce - RTX VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
500GB SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 16MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,234.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/!aw!HZ0Qb0/

A little bit above my budget though.

 

[Oussebon]

When are you planning to get a VR kit or the 1440p 144hz / 4k monitor?

What are your budgets for these?

It's important to make sure the system fits what you'll be asking of it.

e.g. if it's going to be 1080p 144hz for a year, and 4k upgrade after that, no point buying a 4k gaming GPU now because it will have been made obsolete by the time you really make any use of it.

 

[DrozenB]

When are you planning to get a VR kit or the 1440p 144hz / 4k monitor?

What are your budgets for these?

It's important to make sure the system fits what you'll be asking of it.

e.g. if it's going to be 1080p 144hz for a year, and 4k upgrade after that, no point buying a 4k gaming GPU now because it will have been made obsolete by the time you really make any use of it.

The VR kit is for next year along with the 1440p monitor, 4K isn't really ideal because of the low refresh rate and high prices. I don't really know how much I'll be spending on them since it will take some time. Right now I'm looking for a decent 1080p 100+ Hz monitor for around 170 pounds.

 

[Oussebon]

Don't buy an RTX 2070 Super then - massive waste of cash.

By the time you own a monitor / VR kit worthy of it, it will be superseded by newer tech anyway.

The Genesis case is for budget office PCs and not at all a good match for keeping powerful gaming hardware cool.

The 9700 + B360 mobo gives you the worst of all worlds - a slowed, frequency locked CPU, that's still more expensive than the AMD alternatives, while performing little to no better and costing a lot more.

32gb RAM is pointless for gaming and not futureproof - you'll get 0 benefit from it for performance, and by the time games benefit from it, your PC will not because everything else will be obsolete instead.

Instead, buy this:

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERBOX K500 RGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £949.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/gwrDxbeAsS/

Take the £230 saved plus the £170 from our monitor budget, and get your 1440p 144hz monitor now. Lots of choices in the £400 or less range:

Gaming Monitors Guide

The monitor is probably the most important component in any gaming build – it defines how you experience games and the hardware the PC should have. Overlooking the monitor can be the single biggest bottleneck to your gaming experience. With recent monitor and graphics card launches, and wider...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

And enjoy 1440p high refresh gaming

 

[DrozenB]

Thanks for the help! I'm doing some research on AMD processors right now, they seem to be a lot better than intel right now so I'm going with a ryzen 7 3700X. I'm not really sure about changing to a 2060, still considering it though.

 

[Oussebon]

2070 Super is entry level 4k gaming. Massive waste on 1080p. And also a waste if not buying a decent monitor until later because by the time you harness its horsepower, it will have been replaced with newer and more powerful options from both the red and the green teams, with newer / more mature versions of new technologies.

I run AAA titles high-ultra on my 2060 at 1440p, framerate capped to ~72, often running at capped with room on the GPU to spare. The Division 2, Witcher 3, Shadow of War that sort of thing. A 2060 Super would be great for 1440p.

 

[DrozenB]

Yeah the 2060 SUPER seems more like a better deal for my case, I was just concerned with future proofing the computer since I'm not really going to buy another pc for at least half a decade, I used to have a GTX 980 and an i7 4970k from 2015 and it lasted pretty well for ultra at 1080p 60Hz. I just wanted to make sure I would be able to play at a decent framerate in 1440p for that same ammout of time. As for the monitor, I had to look for one outside of pcspecialist because 144Hz 1440p monitors are not available, so I might be getting this one: Samsung LC27JG50QQUXEN 27-Inch WQHD Monitor - Dark Silver, I also needed a keyboard so thats basically a 1350 budget for the pc and monitor. I came up with this build after considering what you guys said:

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 275R TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER - HDMI, DP - VR Ready!
1st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB ADATA SX6000 Pro PCIe M.2 2280 (2100 MB/R, 1500 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W VS SERIES™ VS-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Price: £1,030.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/qy0dcU!vyM/

 

[Oussebon]

Does that monitor have freesync? You definitely want one that does

 

[DrozenB]

Does that monitor have freesync? You definitely want one that does

Not sure, but I done a little more research and found this one: Acer KG271Ubmiippx 27 Inch WQHD Gaming Monitor, Black (TN Panel, FreeSync, 1ms, ZeroFrame, DP, HDMI).
Cheaper, definitly has free-sync and 1440p 144Hz.

 

[Oussebon]

The Acer KG271Ubmiippx is 1440p 75hz. This is why it's cheaper.

I wish they had clearer model names instead of alphabet soup... but that one is not what you're after.

I checked and the LC27JG50QQUXEN does not have freesync.

What about any of the ones I put on the list?

For most gaming there is very little difference between an R7 and an R5. If the R7 is squeezing your monitor budget too hard perhaps go to the R5?

 

[DrozenB]

The Acer KG271Ubmiippx is 1440p 75hz. This is why it's cheaper.

I wish they had clearer model names instead of alphabet soup... but that one is not what you're after.

I checked and the LC27JG50QQUXEN does not have freesync.

What about any of the ones I put on the list?

For most gaming there is very little difference between an R7 and an R5. If the R7 is squeezing your monitor budget too hard perhaps go to the R5?

I really need a good CPU because I work a lot with data science, so I really want the R7. I'm considering buying the EG 27" QHD 144hz 1ms Gaming Monitor as it fits the budget nicely, the only issue is that it is out of stock for now so I'll have to wait until the 9th to order it. Maybe there are 100+ Hz monitors out there? I don't necessarily need the 144Hz, just above 100 should do fine since the 2060 won't surpass 100 frames at 1440p anyways.

 

[Oussebon]

Ah, not sure I knew about the data science thing

The only 100hz monitors I know of are 1440p ultrawide, which start at around £400.

The EG27" sounds like the way to go then. It;s only a week away and they let you preorder. Or wait a month or two if that would let you save up more for something in the £300-£400 range, if there are options in that range you'd prefer.

 

[DrozenB]

Seems like everything is settled then
I will make my purchases in a few days and enjoy gaming in a decent computer, thanks for the help!!

 

[Oussebon]

Apparently the Samsung S27R750Q (1440p, 144hz, VA panel) is only £250 and has freesync.

It has a very different kind of stand - a clamp stand, but perhaps that could be an advantage depending on your work/gaming space

Samsung Business UK | Mobile, Display & Climate

Learn more about Samsung Business solutions, providing technology that enables mobility, connectivity and exceptional performance to businesses of all sizes across various vertical industries.

displaysolutions.samsung.com

 

[DrozenB]

Apparently the Samsung S27R750Q (1440p, 144hz, VA panel) is only £250 and has freesync.

It has a very different kind of stand - a clamp stand, but perhaps that could be an advantage depending on your work/gaming space

Samsung Business UK | Mobile, Display & Climate

Learn more about Samsung Business solutions, providing technology that enables mobility, connectivity and exceptional performance to businesses of all sizes across various vertical industries.

displaysolutions.samsung.com

That also does the job, a little more expensive but probably more reliable then the other one. I will consider buying it, thanks a lot!