Martinr36
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Yeah at the moment they've got everyone over a barrel, as everyone wants the latest tech
It Was Only A Matter Of Time- 3090TI, 16GB 3070TI & 3050 Announcing Next Month
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Too late, already have a 6800XT and just got my gf a 3070 (which tbh is about as much as she'll need at 3440x1440 for the rare chance she plays newer AAA games)
But Nvidia are really going to town overloading (and confusing) the product stack this time round, huh?
Tbh I'd rather they fixed the issues that led to the shortages and crazy prices we have had rather than manufacture more. But that capitalism or something... intended consequences perhaps? I think we all know that MSRP/tier will never be the same again.
Anyway, add in all the partner cards and there's gonna be quite some overlap at this rate.
The 3090ti (is that pretty much just the new Titan now?) might have a point. If any takers at the kind of prices I expect, assuming any availability. But the 16Gb 3070ti... will that cut into 3080 territory? Assuming it's still GDDR6X, it's overkill for it's position, 12Gb would more than do. 16Gb is more like the number the 3080 should've had from the start, if not the 3080ti. If it did I might've been ok with paying the at best +50% premium they had over the 6800XT for months on end.
Nothing new from Nvidia though tbh, the savvy, patient ppl hold out for the ti or super version they know will come along eventually so they don't feel like suckers later on.
I know it's unlikely but if Nvidia focus too much more on this gen now, it's a possibility that AMD might even get the drop on them next gen and launch first... but maybe that's their plan, who knows? As for AMD, no news afaik re more models but they're probably focusing their slimmer resources on doing better still next gen, on par with power aso plus evening up with RT. The admittedly little by way of projected specs I've seen for the 7900XT are insane.
But Nvidia are really going to town overloading (and confusing) the product stack this time round, huh?
Tbh I'd rather they fixed the issues that led to the shortages and crazy prices we have had rather than manufacture more. But that capitalism or something... intended consequences perhaps? I think we all know that MSRP/tier will never be the same again.
Anyway, add in all the partner cards and there's gonna be quite some overlap at this rate.
The 3090ti (is that pretty much just the new Titan now?) might have a point. If any takers at the kind of prices I expect, assuming any availability. But the 16Gb 3070ti... will that cut into 3080 territory? Assuming it's still GDDR6X, it's overkill for it's position, 12Gb would more than do. 16Gb is more like the number the 3080 should've had from the start, if not the 3080ti. If it did I might've been ok with paying the at best +50% premium they had over the 6800XT for months on end.
Nothing new from Nvidia though tbh, the savvy, patient ppl hold out for the ti or super version they know will come along eventually so they don't feel like suckers later on.
I know it's unlikely but if Nvidia focus too much more on this gen now, it's a possibility that AMD might even get the drop on them next gen and launch first... but maybe that's their plan, who knows? As for AMD, no news afaik re more models but they're probably focusing their slimmer resources on doing better still next gen, on par with power aso plus evening up with RT. The admittedly little by way of projected specs I've seen for the 7900XT are insane.
As I may have mentioned before (lol) there's several reasons I went for the far inferior (as I've been told elsewhere) 6800XT over a 3080. This is pretty much the reason that isn't based on performance, expected or otherwise, short or long term.
It's as fishy and stinky as rollmop herrings left out in the sun for a day or two.
SpyderTracks
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Same thing I'm seeing. I think AMD have something pretty major planned for the 7000 series.
JUNI0R
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Love the link embedding, looks like the 3090TI is just around the corner
Give you £350 for it
JUNI0R
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AccidentalDenz
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I'll give a dozen Freddos for it - better offer than Scott's!Give you £350 for it
I guarantee we’ll see a spec where it’s been paired with a 650w CV PSU at some point in the future.
I think PCS need to re-visit their calculator to be honest. It seems off to me, even when doing rough numbers in my head. I think they are using TDP across the board rather than maximum draw.
I just configed a 3090 Strix with a 11900k OC and it said 850w with 20% headroom. 20% means they've calculated 680w maximum use.
The 3090 Strix will pull 480 at full chat. An OC'd 11900k is way more than 200w when allowed to run off its rocker. Then you have the drives, overheads etc.
The calculator is 20% off IMO. I would base the system as needing 850w and want at least 1000w in that system of a small cushion.
I just configed a 3090 Strix with a 11900k OC and it said 850w with 20% headroom. 20% means they've calculated 680w maximum use.
The 3090 Strix will pull 480 at full chat. An OC'd 11900k is way more than 200w when allowed to run off its rocker. Then you have the drives, overheads etc.
The calculator is 20% off IMO. I would base the system as needing 850w and want at least 1000w in that system of a small cushion.
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I stand corrected, I just wanted to double check there.....
"We have calculated your specification to require around 696W of power including a 20% allowance"
That means they're calculating an OCd 11900k and a 3090 Strix at 556w.
That's an absolute country mile off. Not even close!
For anyone that want's to try it for themselves...
Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9-11900K Eight Core (3.50GHz @ up to 5.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO Wi-Fi (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0, SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £3,588.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z590-overclocked/Vvp6PhqTJt/
"We have calculated your specification to require around 696W of power including a 20% allowance"
That means they're calculating an OCd 11900k and a 3090 Strix at 556w.
That's an absolute country mile off. Not even close!
For anyone that want's to try it for themselves...
Case
LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 GAMING CASE
Overclocked CPU
Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9-11900K Eight Core (3.50GHz @ up to 5.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG MAXIMUS XIII HERO Wi-Fi (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0, SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
24GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
256GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (500MB/R, 400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 150 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 10 to 12 working days
Price: £3,588.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z590-overclocked/Vvp6PhqTJt/
Martinr36
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And a 27" 1080p 60 Hz monitor
JUNI0R
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Mine seems to be coming to coming to 696W... better, but still 150W short of just a 11900K and 3090 at full chat... stock 😬 I think I'd agree
Huh? that's what I said haha.
JUNI0R
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Oh, I was looking at the pre-allowance wattage on your message as the post-allowance wattage, pls ignore me
😂
SpyderTracks
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I would definitely post a note to the admins, I've always thought there was something a bit off about the allowances.
Martinr36
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At that price you ought to get a couple......................