I understand your point but if I wanted to stay intel which I do offer me advise on that rather than turn up their noses at me its not like amd is leaps and bounds ahead its still close so don't want to be bashed for wanting to stick with intel I looked at the whole intel vs amd thing and I still chose to stay with intel didn't need all the bashing just help with a intel buildOn paper looking at the highlights its a very powerful PC. The issue is its not very balanced, especially for what you need.
A lot of people are going by the first post which there were serval big issues and your title says you no nothing about PCs so guys on here trying to show you why AMD are a better build at the moment is a reasonable thing to do, most the criticism was constructive but when you don't take it on board people are going to struggle to want to give their advice.
You're made some better changes here but you want to look at your storage set up as the other guys have said. You will thank them if you ever need to reinstall windows.
Just wanting to know if ive managed to do a decent build that will play games at high settings as know nothing about pcs
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Resistance100
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Sticking with intel is fine but explaining your reasons why would have helped.
Asking for advise after saying you know nothing about PC's and then dismissing it without saying why is only ever going to frustrate people who give up their free time to help people. We were all in that boat at some point.
Enjoy your PC. Looks like Nurse has balanced it out for you.
Thanks again one more thing if I have argbs and rgbs is that OK as I've got a lot of rgb components but argb strips lolYou're welcome
And apologies for your thread getting a bit heated in the middle....most of us on here can get quite passionate when it comes to making sure people get the absolute best for their money....and the Intel vs AMD debate is much like a Ford versus Volkswagen debate (well, pre-Dieselgate anyway)...Volkswagens are better in almost all areas but Ford's will do the job
It's just that it's still very close and I have a friend who builds pcs that gave me his input maybe a intel fan boy who knows lol but if it'll do what's needed of it I'm fine with that it's a huge upgrade from the prebuilt I bought years ago as it was a potato I just want to game with decent graphics and a smooth experience I understand you're all pretty passionate about your pcs and maybe as I get more into it I'll be on the level you guys are as I'm not going back to console gaming ever haha
Actual last question whats the 2tb seagate for if my 500 is for os and 1tb for games I feel so useless haha again thanks for your time
Purely on performance, it's fairly close. There are MANY other areas to consider though. As suggested, the forum is full of enthusiasts and we are all very passionate about tech. Believe it or not, we just want you to get the absolute best system you can for your money.
I'm currently on Intel, and at the time I built it it was the right way to go. I'm looking to build a new system this year and, without doubt, it'll be AMD (still with a Nvidia GPU though).
The Intel system you have specced will be out of date by the end of the month, as the latest socket comes out and replaces the motherboard yet again. Even if you were to hold off and go with the 11 series, the next board again after that will follow the same path due to the architecture changing. Going purely on the previous generations from AMD, the 570 and B550 chipsets should be compatible with the next iteration of AMD CPU, so that means that you will get at least 10 years of high end performance without having to worry about changing the entire system. With Intel, you will be left FAR behind with next to no upgrade path to follow. The architecture is the key to this limitation.
The above, for me, is the main reason that I won't be sticking with Intel in my next build. There are other reasons though, already covered but here it is again:
Security - Intel is riddled with issues that cannot be patched without significant loss of performance. I lost 10% FPS with the Intel patches so I removed them and I'm now running an insecure system due to this.
Performance - PCIe 4.0 isn't coming to the front until the next generation from Intel. You get better performance from the GPU and you have access to the faster storage options (Up to 7Gb/s). This is another big reason to consider.
Temperature - Per watt the Intels take serious cooling. The h115i is the only real option to keep it running OK. With the AMD, only the high end chips need the 115, the 6 core will run with the stock fan. Anything in between can be handled by any 240mm cooler+.
As another note generally to everyone. Please keep it friendly. Backing someone into a corner just makes them more stoic in their decision. We can only point to the relevant information, if they choose not to accept it that's OK. You can lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink. I'm as passionate as any of you but please don't belittle anyone due to making, in our eyes, poor choices. Just post what you would recommend and why, if it isn't followed just wish them the best of luck and leave them to it.
Here is a thread I posted the other day. 2K+ is a serious investment so I would highly recommend taking an hour or so out of your day to go through everything in its entirety. It shows, at least, that all enthusiasts are singing from the same hymn sheet.
(1) Please read before posting:- Collaboration of Helpful Hints | PCSPECIALIST
(1) Please read before posting:- Collaboration of Helpful Hints | PCSPECIALIST
Could you come up with a amd build that beats the intel I have put together for the same price of £2500 my friend builds pcs and he's saying you're all wrong but 1 against however many are backing amd is kinda making me second guess 😥
I'm really not tech savvy been watching linustips all week to try get my head around things but I feel I'm just getting more confused with all the info I'm getting my head is literally spinning I just want the best high end pc for my cash that also looks awesome 😅
Stephen M
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I think if anyone here proposed an AMD build a few years ago they would have been sectioned, AMD were real bargain basement stuff and that allowed Intel to get complacent. Then Lisa Su was appointed by AMD and despite the reservations of many she turned them around and in double quick time.
Their architecture is brand new while Intel have not changed. I am not an expert but do read up as much as possible and there is no way I could honestly suggest Intel now.
Like Nursemorph I have an Intel desk top, ordered a year too soon but have gone with AMD on latest laptop and as soon as I can justify a new one will get an AMD desk top.
Their architecture is brand new while Intel have not changed. I am not an expert but do read up as much as possible and there is no way I could honestly suggest Intel now.
Like Nursemorph I have an Intel desk top, ordered a year too soon but have gone with AMD on latest laptop and as soon as I can justify a new one will get an AMD desk top.
Resistance100
Expert
What's your friends reasons for Intel being better at present?
It's a lot to take in and a steep learning curve at that one. However its a bug once you start to understand it all you don't stop learning more and more about it
All the guys here only want you to get the best build for you cash as well
I changed it as recommended by nursemorph
Says intel are better at single task also says better under gaming stress tests not speed tests but it's marginal, single thread performance on games says intel comes out on top I'm having to go through our convo so just getting snippets lolWhat's your friends reasons for Intel being better at present?
It's a lot to take in and a steep learning curve at that one. However its a bug once you start to understand it all you don't stop learning more and more about it
All the guys here only want you to get the best build for you cash as well
Intel out performs amd in single core tasks over 120hz all top gamers and competitive streamers are on Intel they're some of his reasonsWhat's your friends reasons for Intel being better at present?
It's a lot to take in and a steep learning curve at that one. However its a bug once you start to understand it all you don't stop learning more and more about it
All the guys here only want you to get the best build for you cash as well
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COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
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AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
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ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
8GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3070 - HDMI, DP
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1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
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500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
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1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
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Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
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STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
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MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
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3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,518.00 including VAT and Delivery
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This is assuming you’re going with the HP monitor you mentioned. You’d get away with a 3060Ti but the 3070 will go a long way to maxing out settings.
And this will out perform the Intel build ? Can I swap it for the 3080 lol will be upgrading to 4k eventually when it's more the standard?
Resistance100
Expert
His data is a bit out of date. Before the 5000 series CPU's came out they were ahead on certain things, single thread CPU trumps all Intel 10th gen CPUS - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html (11th gen isn't out yet). His reasons are very niche which don't apply to 99.9% of us
And once you bring everything else into account I just couldn't recommend them over Intel Interesting to see his thought trail tho
See why I seem so on the fence him in one ear then a load in the other as a newbie to all this my mind is boggled lolHis data is a bit out of date. Before the 5000 series CPU's came out they were ahead on certain things, single thread CPU trumps all Intel 10th gen CPUS - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html (11th gen isn't out yet). His reasons are very niche which don't apply to 99.9% of us
Interesting to see his thought trail tho
It’ll eat the Intel for breakfast, for all the reasons that @Scott mentioned in his earlier post.
The 3070 will do a decent job at 4K 60Hz. When you eventually get yourself a 4K 144Hz monitor there’ll likely be a newer GPU that’d outperform the 3080 available at that point in time. The system is built with the future in mind, should last the best part of a decade with the occasional graphics card update 🙂👍