Looking for my next pc and I'm out of the loop

SpyderTracks

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Could you perhaps elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean, as my RX580 runs most games pretty well.
Most games "pretty well" at 1080p 60Hz is not a success story in any way especially not on a brand new system. 60fps is not even considered PC gaming, nowadays 120Hz to match a console would be considered bare minimum, 144Hz is now the new 60Hz from 10 years ago, and 240Hz is quickly becoming the defacto standard.

Even 1080p is quickly being phased out because it’s so poor by modern standards


If you're buying a PC expecting that it won't be able to run newer games, you're not designing the PC properly.
Don't limit your experience, you may be used to the absolute bottom rung, you won't appreciate how poor your experience has been until you put some trust in and accept that there's far better available.
 
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TheAntsAreBack

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Good afternoon. If anyone could cast their eyes over this I'd be grateful. I'd like to shave a couple of hundred pounds off if I could but I'm slightly boggled by the relationship in specs between the CPU and GPU and to an extent, the motherboard. So I might have a bottleneck or wasted spend in here that I'm not aware of.

I use my PC mostly for games, office work, music and 3d printing. My current monitor is a AOC G2590PX 24.5" 144Hz Gaming Monitor.

Many thanks in advance



Case
CORSAIR 5000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE - WHITE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core CPU (4.5GHz-5.4GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X670E AORUS PRO X WHITE (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB) KIT - WHITE
Graphics Card
12GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER Twin Edge OC - WHITE - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W RMe SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler - WHITE
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,042.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-white/cA2wjBJ52N/
 

TheAntsAreBack

Active member
I suspect the 580 is still able to run games okay because you are only running at 60fps (the Hz of a monitor dictates what fps it will display)...most gaming systems these days are 144Hz+

Just about got to £1800..trimmed the secondayr games drive down to 1TB (you can always add another if needed); PSU should be fine if you are staying at 1080p level...may be pushing it if you upgraded to a 1440p GPU in the future.

You could save £110 or so by transferring your Windows licence from the old machine, installing Windows on the new machine yourself and then do an in place upgrade to W11 (it's free to do)...it's all pretty simple to do but, if you aren't comfortable doing it, then fair enough..not everyone is.

Case
CORSAIR 4000D RGB AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core CPU (Up to 5.2GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X870 EAGLE WIFI7 (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB GIGABYTE RADEON™ RX 7600 XT GAMING OC - 2 x HDMI, 2 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 2950MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,818.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/U9CRrMYm46/
Thanks! I'll take a look at that.
 

TheAntsAreBack

Active member
Most games "pretty well" at 1080p 60Hz is not a success story in any way especially not on a brand new system. 60fps is not even considered PC gaming, nowadays 120Hz to match a console would be considered bare minimum, 144Hz is now the new 60Hz from 10 years ago, and 240Hz is quickly becoming the defacto standard.

Even 1080p is quickly being phased out because it’s so poor by modern standards


If you're buying a PC expecting that it won't be able to run newer games, you're not designing the PC properly.
Don't limit your experience, you may be used to the absolute bottom rung, you won't appreciate how poor your experience has been until you put some trust in and accept that there's far better available.
Er cheers but I think perhaps you have a habit of assuming you know more about a person than you actually do.
 

TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
You want to remove Norton, you don't want it anywhere near your system, and you don't want to have to remove it yourself, as I'm not sure even the official uninstaller cleans everything.

You can change the CPU down to the 7700 (non-X) without any performance loss, as it's a newer, more efficient, cheaper version of the 7700X. Neither are 'gaming' CPUs per se, and obviously won't be as performant in games as one of the X3D CPUs, but it's probably slightly faster in non-gaming scenarios due to the higher boost clocks.

However, the RAM speed may limit performance a little, as the sweet spot is 6000MHz - how much difference it makes will depend in the game/application, and may not make any real-world differences unless it's a situation where every second costs money.

If you don't need the extra USB headers, you could save £65 by going to the X870 motherboard (it's a refresh of the older B650 motherboards, but with mandatory USB4, and wifi 7...which the X670E already has).
 

stegor

Bright Spark
As you are only running 1080p a 4070 would save you £80 compared to the Super, and be more than adequate. It's also much more power efficient so won't tax your PSU as much. This build is pretty much the same as mine and will be 100% good enough for every game at 1080p.
 

TheAntsAreBack

Active member
As you are only running 1080p a 4070 would save you £80 compared to the Super, and be more than adequate. It's also much more power efficient so won't tax your PSU as much. This build is pretty much the same as mine and will be 100% good enough for every game at 1080p.
Cheers mate, that's good to know.
 

TheAntsAreBack

Active member
Hello, I wonder if anyone would be good enough to take a look at this? It's coming in at £1770. It has about 100w more power than it needs but the options it was suggesting were not compatible (with the motherboard I think?), so I'm not sure what to go for in that regard. I don't know my way around motherboard specs to be honest. I would like it to be Bluetooth compatible but does not need to be WiFi but I don't know my way around those adaptors so I'd be grateful for any advice regarding that.

It will mostly be used for Office work, gaming (though I don't need bleeding edge tech in that regard), 3d printing, Zwift etc. My current monitor is a AOC G2590PX 24.5" 144Hz

Many thanks in advance.

Case
CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Promotional Item
Get AC: Shadows and 6 Months Ubisoft+ Classics with qualifying Intel® products
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 14-Core Processor i5-14500 (Up to 5.0GHz) 24MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z790-P (LGA1700, DDR5, PCIe 5.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB PALIT GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W CX SERIES™ CX-750 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H60x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo
Packaging
PCS Corsair Carton Upright
Price: £1770 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z790-ddr5-pc/d6qkGqRxPq/
 
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Ekans2011

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Hello, I wonder if anyone would be good enough to take a look at this? It's coming in at £1770. It has about 100w more power than it needs but the options it was suggesting were not compatible (with the motherboard I think?), so I'm not sure what to go for in that regard. I don't know my way around motherboard specs to be honest. I would like it to be Bluetooth compatible but does not need to be WiFi but I don't know my way around those adaptors so I'd be grateful for any advice regarding that.

It will mostly be used for Office work, gaming (though I don't need bleeding edge tech in that regard), 3d printing, Zwift etc. My current monitor is a AOC G2590PX 24.5" 144Hz

Many thanks in advance.

Case
CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Promotional Item
Get AC: Shadows and 6 Months Ubisoft+ Classics with qualifying Intel® products
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 14-Core Processor i5-14500 (Up to 5.0GHz) 24MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME Z790-P (LGA1700, DDR5, PCIe 5.0)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB PALIT GEFORCE RTX 4070 SUPER DUAL - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W CX SERIES™ CX-750 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR H60x RGB ELITE HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6E AX210 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo
Packaging
PCS Corsair Carton Upright
Price: £1770 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z790-ddr5-pc/d6qkGqRxPq/
What's your max budget?

FYI INTEL is DOA

 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
We’ve already been through all this, what’s changed? What was wrong with the previous suggestion? How come you’ve reverted back to everything before we told you about Intel and budget etc?
 

TheAntsAreBack

Active member
We’ve already been through all this, what’s changed? What was wrong with the previous suggestion? How come you’ve reverted back to everything before we told you about Intel and budget etc?
To be fair, the previous suggestion was two builds that were both presented with the caveat that neither were recommended! So I came here with this build with a question about the motherboard and Bluetooth. I've not reverted back to everything at all, this build is quite different.
 
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