New Build Thoughts Please

[RICH74]

Hello everyone,

I've posted below what I consider to be a great system but of course this is why I am asking the experts!

Background - I want something that is going to be good enough for the next 3 to 4 years until the next big thing in graphics cards comes along. Ideally it will be a gaming pc and my starting point will be 1440 / 60 fps on max settings (I would say Flight Simulator Cyberpunk 2077 type of games to be running at max settings)

RAM - I know 64 gig is probably overkill but while I have the money why not? There will be some video editing there will be some Photoshop (or equivalent) I know I can get away with 32 but why not go for 64 while I can?

Spec Questions Okay so here is where I need your help with the rest of it. Is the motherboard good enough? Do I face any bottlenecks? Is the case and the cooling I have chosen sufficient or do I need extra fans or would I benefit from the next higher priced cooling system? Went for 1000w power supply.

As for the specs from the website, I've just included the hardware and removed the stuff about mouse mats and software etc, not really part of the discussion I don't think.

I'm looking at ordering this once the shortage of 3090 cards is over so maybe at least a couple of months but thanks in advance for any advice you can offer me

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE SL600M GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Ten-Core Processor i9-10900K (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z490-F GAMING (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

 

[Cobblers]

Bet you £100 someone will ask you why the Intel CPU... waiting in 1, 2, 3....

 

[Martinr36]

Hello everyone,

I've posted below what I consider to be a great system but of course this is why I am asking the experts!

Background - I want something that is going to be good enough for the next 3 to 4 years until the next big thing in graphics cards comes along. Ideally it will be a gaming pc and my starting point will be 1440 / 60 fps on max settings (I would say Flight Simulator Cyberpunk 2077 type of games to be running at max settings)

RAM - I know 64 gig is probably overkill but while I have the money why not? There will be some video editing there will be some Photoshop (or equivalent) I know I can get away with 32 but why not go for 64 while I can?

Spec Questions Okay so here is where I need your help with the rest of it. Is the motherboard good enough? Do I face any bottlenecks? Is the case and the cooling I have chosen sufficient or do I need extra fans or would I benefit from the next higher priced cooling system? Went for 1000w power supply.

As for the specs from the website, I've just included the hardware and removed the stuff about mouse mats and software etc, not really part of the discussion I don't think.

I'm looking at ordering this once the shortage of 3090 cards is over so maybe at least a couple of months but thanks in advance for any advice you can offer me

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE SL600M GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Ten-Core Processor i9-10900K (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z490-F GAMING (LGA1200, USB 3.2, CrossFireX/SLI) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
24GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND

Ok we'll start at the top by linking the article below and can you post the full spec and configuration link

AMD Vs Intel

So some of you aren't aware of the reasons why so many people are heading away from Intel to AMD, so thought it would be important to lay that out for people to refer back to. A lot of you will go to cpubenchmark or userbenchmark to find performance metrics for CPU's. These sites are complete...

www.pcspecialist.co.uk

 

[RICH74]

Bet you £100 someone will ask you why the Intel CPU... waiting in 1, 2, 3....

Because I'm not clever enough making the same spec with AMD components - if anyone that is kind enough can recommend me similar in an AMD build I would be eternally grateful.

 

[Martinr36]

Because I'm not clever enough making the same spec with AMD components - if anyone that is kind enough can recommend me similar in an AMD build I would be eternally grateful.

What monitor resolution & refresh rate or make and model and what's the budget

 

[Cobblers]

Because I'm not clever enough making the same spec with AMD components - if anyone that is kind enough can recommend me similar in an AMD build I would be eternally grateful.

Hey you and me both then. I naturally went for Intel first, what I've always done in the past.

 

[RICH74]

What monitor resolution & refresh rate or make and model and what's the budget

I did say in my background, aiming for 1440 / 60 fps on max settings. I know its a high spec card and capable of 4K but looking at that at the beginning.

Price range for a monitor? Haven't thought about it but minimum £400 if necessary.

 

[Martinr36]

I did say in my background, aiming for 1440 / 60 fps on max settings. I know its a high spec card and capable of 4K but looking at that at the beginning.

Price range for a monitor? Haven't thought about it but minimum £400 if necessary.

What's the budget for the spec

 

[RICH74]

What's the budget for the spec

The intel one was coming out at £3.5k so that's my budget not including peripherals.

 

[Martinr36]

@MrWilson , @AgentCooper , think this is one for one of you

 

[sck451]

The intel one was coming out at £3.5k so that's my budget not including peripherals.

So it's £3500 plus £400 for a monitor? You can get a good 4K setup for that, monitor included. That would undoubtedly be the way to go.

 

[sck451]

So it's £3500 plus £400 for a monitor? You can get a good 4K setup for that, monitor included. That would undoubtedly be the way to go.

Or, of course, spend a silly amount on getting a Samsung G9 Odyssey and the king of all 3070 builds to match it.

£400 on a monitor to go with a £3,500 system is not a good match: it won't get you the performance you should at that price.

 

[Martinr36]

Or, of course, spend a silly amount on getting a Samsung G9 Odyssey and the king of all 3070 builds to match it.

£400 on a monitor to go with a £3,500 system is not a good match: it won't get you the performance you should at that price.

The OP actually said this

Price range for a monitor? Haven't thought about it but minimum £400 if necessary.

 

[AgentCooper]

Here’s what I’d do...

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,950.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/Ae7yJbMnC6/

Pair that up with the Samsung G9 (or the new AOC Agon if the G9 is a touch too much for the budget) and you’re in for a visual treat 👍

 

[RICH74]

@AgentCooper Many thanks for that - it has helped me a great deal on the AMD side of things - much appreciated.

 

[AgentCooper]

@AgentCooper Many thanks for that - it has helped me a great deal on the AMD side of things - much appreciated.

No thanks necessary, happy to help. If you need any help future down the line when you’re in pre-production you can update this thread, someone here will always be able to assist 👍

 

[RICH74]

Okay so based off of the above and tweaked a little for my needs, I think I have finalised my build.

I don't mind spending a little more if for example I would benefit from extra fans or if the cooler would benefit from the next one up or if the PSU would benefit being increased etc. What I don't want 12 months down the line is to be in a situation where I'm upgrading parts already if I can mitigate those potentials now by spending it now. Hope that makes sense.

I'm still unsure of RAM but listed as 64 might be 32 on the final order but that doesn't affect the rest of the spec.

Thanks again.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,839.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/YG!JMqJMsT/

 

[Martinr36]

Okay so based off of the above and tweaked a little for my needs, I think I have finalised my build.

I don't mind spending a little more if for example I would benefit from extra fans or if the cooler would benefit from the next one up or if the PSU would benefit being increased etc. What I don't want 12 months down the line is to be in a situation where I'm upgrading parts already if I can mitigate those potentials now by spending it now. Hope that makes sense.

I'm still unsure of RAM but listed as 64 might be 32 on the final order but that doesn't affect the rest of the spec.

Thanks again.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100x Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,839.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/YG!JMqJMsT/

I see you've only got 1 M.2 in there, if budget allows I'd add a Samsung 980 512GB for the OS to go, then your games could go on the 970 you've already got, this means if you ever need to clean install the OS you don't have to reinstall all your games

 

[Scott]

I wouldn't recommend 64GB of RAM for gaming usage (even with the editing in mind). If you stick with 32GB you can get the 3600Mhz option (faster the better).

You've sacrificed other areas to accommodate the above, I'm guessing, which is never recommended.

You've reduced:

The Storage - 2 m2's were recommended to cover any games etc. Also can double as a cache for the editing.
The PSU - Such a high end system warrants a high end PSU. The TXm is enthusiast low-level
Cooling - One area you should never scrimp is on the cooling. The H100i RGB is the minimum choice for this chip at this level IMO.
Wifi - The non-AX200 isn't a good selection at all.

This is how I would personally do it. Any savings should be made by dropping the M2 brand names IMO.

Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £2,957.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/wHs9m3axDx/

 

[RICH74]

That is great, I can work with all of that with my budget - thank you.

So sorry finally, in your expert opinion(s) no extra fans necessary for that build?