New Build - will my GPU fit?

[TomPlk]

Hi everyone, I'm configuring a new desktop build to replace my current one which has poor airflow.

I'm planning on using my current GPU in this one, since I'm buying the same motherboard that I currently have. This means it should fit the new motherboard, but I'm not 100% certain that it will fit the case.

My GPU is a 4GB NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1650 SUPER. Can anyone confirm that this GPU will fit the new case? I think it should do, as the case is a bit bigger than my current one, but I want to be sure before I order.

Also, I welcome any other feedback on this build. It will be mainly used for gaming, although nothing super high-end. Thanks.

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 200R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi everyone, I'm configuring a new desktop build to replace my current one which has poor airflow.

I'm planning on using my current GPU in this one, since I'm buying the same motherboard that I currently have. This means it should fit the new motherboard, but I'm not 100% certain that it will fit the case.

My GPU is a 4GB NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1650 SUPER. Can anyone confirm that this GPU will fit the new case? I think it should do, as the case is a bit bigger than my current one, but I want to be sure before I order.

Also, I welcome any other feedback on this build. It will be mainly used for gaming, although nothing super high-end. Thanks.

Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SERIES™ 200R COMPACT GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.2GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2400MHz (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
1x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED

Why are you replacing your current build? what's the actual issue with it?

 

[TomPlk]

Why are you replacing your current build? what's the actual issue with it?

The PC is over a year old, and there are no serious issues right now, but I'm a bit concerned about airflow.

I don't buy the latest games, but lately I've noticed that when I play a game like 7 Days to Die at it's default graphics settings, the PC makes loud noises like it's about to take off. I'm guessing it's an overheating GPU.

In my last build, I went for the cheapest case (PCS 3601), with only one fan (which I now regret). I did buy a second fan, but when I tried to install it, the cables surrounding my SSD and HDD were bunched up around the socket on the motherboard. I couldn't seem to fit it in.

If I was skilled enough, I would just buy a new case and move everything into it. But the idea of doing a case or motherboard upgrade stresses me out. Every time I've tried that in the past, I never get it right. Something goes wrong, and I always end up just buying a new PC anyway.

I'm not sure if there's a better way to deal with this, but I thought instead of waiting for this system to finally die, I might just get a new one with better airflow now.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I don't buy the latest games, but lately I've noticed that when I play a game like 7 Days to Die at it's default graphics settings, the PC makes loud noises like it's about to take off. I'm guessing it's an overheating GPU.

Can you post the full specs you ordered? There's no point replacing the whole PC, it could be several things, simply badly optimised fans which can easily be sorted, or worst comes to worst, you just upgrade the case. Buying a whole new PC is madness. You can ask PCS to upgrade the case if you're not comfortable doing it. But you don't guess about stuff like temps, you diagnose it to know the exact issue so you can correct it.

But it's such a shame you didn't get some advice, the two budgets combined, you could have got a seriously nice build.

 

[TomPlk]

Can you post the full specs you ordered? There's no point replacing the whole PC, it could be several things, simply badly optimised fans which can easily be sorted, or worst comes to worst, you just upgrade the case. Buying a whole new PC is madness. You can ask PCS to upgrade the case if you're not comfortable doing it. But you don't guess about stuff like temps, you diagnose it to know the exact issue so you can correct it.

But it's such a shame you didn't get some advice, the two budgets combined, you could have got a seriously nice build.

Well, I haven't ordered it yet, and I was in two minds about going ahead before posting this thread. I bought my current build in 2020, and I was reasonably happy with it - it just took me a while to figure out that the airflow could have been better. It's not terrible, I just went a bit too cheap where I shouldn't have.

But yes, you're right, I could do something else about the fans, and maybe look a little more deeply into the GPU overheating issue. I'll probably hold off on buying a new system for now, and save up a little more for something better for when I do need to upgrade.

Sorry - what should have been a sales advice thread turned into tech support! Here's my specs of my current build if you're still interested:

Case
PCS 3601 CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 3 3200G Quad Core CPU with Vega Graphics (3.6GHz-4.0GHz/6MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 SUPER - HDMI
1st Storage Drive
250GB Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM
Power Supply
CORSAIR 550W CV SERIES™ CV-550 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

I installed Windows 10 on it, and I've since added a second Seagate 1TB HDD for storage. Also, I upgraded the RAM to 16BG (2x8GB) TT ToughRam.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Although it's not the best specced PC, replacing it would be a waste if performance is ok for you.

I would suggest the following:

1/. Monitor temps when idle and under load to determine if anything is overheating, I doubt it is.

HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID

HWMonitor for Windows® x86/x64 is a hardware monitoring program that reads PC systems main health sensors : voltages, temperatures, powers, currents, fans speed, utilizations, clock speeds ... The program handles : CPU and GPU-level hardware monitoring...

www.cpuid.com

2/. Track which fans are causing the noise, likely culprits are case and cooler as they're very budget but could also be the GPU. You can replace the case fans with some higher quality quiet ones for very little money. Similarly you can upgrade the cooler simply enough. But you need to investigate which fans are causing the noise and why. If it's the case fans for instance, then upgrading them to more proficient fans will run cooler, and have speed control as well. If it's the GPU that's overheating because of the case, then you can speak to PCS about upgrading the case.

3/. If you do decide you want to upgrade components, then speak to PCS, they have an upgrade service if you're uncomfortable doing it yourself. They general don't do case upgrades, but if you call them and ask nicely they may well accommodate you.

That PC has several years of life in it, it's not worth throwing it out, you can just optimise if for your needs, it's very simple.

 

[TomPlk]

Although it's not the best specced PC, replacing it would be a waste if performance is ok for you.

I would suggest the following:

1/. Monitor temps when idle and under load to determine if anything is overheating, I doubt it is.

HWMONITOR | Softwares | CPUID

HWMonitor for Windows® x86/x64 is a hardware monitoring program that reads PC systems main health sensors : voltages, temperatures, powers, currents, fans speed, utilizations, clock speeds ... The program handles : CPU and GPU-level hardware monitoring...

www.cpuid.com

2/. Track which fans are causing the noise, likely culprits are case and cooler as they're very budget but could also be the GPU. You can replace the case fans with some higher quality quiet ones for very little money. Similarly you can upgrade the cooler simply enough. But you need to investigate which fans are causing the noise and why. If it's the case fans for instance, then upgrading them to more proficient fans will run cooler, and have speed control as well. If it's the GPU that's overheating because of the case, then you can speak to PCS about upgrading the case.

3/. If you do decide you want to upgrade components, then speak to PCS, they have an upgrade service if you're uncomfortable doing it yourself. They general don't do case upgrades, but if you call them and ask nicely they may well accommodate you.

That PC has several years of life in it, it's not worth throwing it out, you can just optimise if for your needs, it's very simple.

Thanks for the advice, it's much appreciated. When I googled the noise issue, the consensus seemed to be that it's an overheating GPU. I was concerned that the less-than-optimal airflow might be affecting my components. There were a few other minor issues too, but I guess I can live with it for a while longer.

So I'll hold back on buying a new system for now. Thanks!

 

[SpyderTracks]

Thanks for the advice, it's much appreciated. When I googled the noise issue, the consensus seemed to be that it's an overheating GPU. I was concerned that the less-than-optimal airflow might be affecting my components. There were a few other minor issues too, but I guess I can live with it for a while longer.

So I'll hold back on buying a new system for now. Thanks!

It's not about guessing, you read accurate measurements to determine if a component is overheating and then depending on if it is and which one, then you address that particular area.

There are many reasons for high fan noise, overheating is just one. More common, especially on a system like that, is cheap components that aren't designed for quiet operation.

The point is, you don't live with it, you don't just buy a new system, you determine what needs addressing and sort it out. That's the whole point of a gaming pc, is that it's largely upgradeable as you like.

 

[Scott]

I don't mean this to sound... well... mean, but I just don't want you going down the same path again.

As well as all the advice from @SpyderTracks above I need to point out that your most recent selections are very poor as well. There are a number of areas that would need addressed.

With your current system you want to find out what the issue actually is. HWMonitor is the way to do this