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AdaFox

Member
Hello, looking at the below pc. I've read up about the latest 14th gen cpu's having some issues. Is this something for concern? If anyone can also suggest a decent monitor for me aswell would be appreciated.

Thanks


Case
PCS LUMIN ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM)
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Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24-Core Processor i9-14900KF (Up to 6.0GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI (LGA1700, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 4090 WINDFORCE V2 - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair RS120 ARGB PWM Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo
Packaging
Original Case Packaging
 
Ekans2011

Ekans2011

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
AdaFox said:
Hello, looking at the below pc. I've read up about the latest 14th gen cpu's having some issues. Is this something for concern? If anyone can also suggest a decent monitor for me aswell would be appreciated.

Thanks


Case
PCS LUMIN ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM)
Promotional Item
Get a discount code for 20% off select peripherals at Corsair.com
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 24-Core Processor i9-14900KF (Up to 6.0GHz) 36MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI (LGA1700, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 5200MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB GIGABYTE GEFORCE RTX 4090 WINDFORCE V2 - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR MP600 PRO NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 7000 MB/R, 6850 MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD XT RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
4 x Corsair RS120 ARGB PWM Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Welcome Book
PCSpecialist Welcome Book
Logo Branding
PCSpecialist Logo
Packaging
Original Case Packaging
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AdaFox

Member
Budget is probably around £3500 give or take.
Mainly going to be used for flight sim, f1, assetto corsa etc.

Thanks,
Adam
 
Ekans2011

Ekans2011

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
AdaFox said:
Budget is probably around £3500 give or take.
Mainly going to be used for flight sim, f1, assetto corsa etc.

Thanks,
Adam
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Here's what I suggest for a top tier gaming PC.

N.B. You'll need the 9800X3D when it becomes available (November 7th).
If you require for flight simulator, you can upgrade the RAM to 64GB while staying inside budget.

Regarding the monitor, I'd go with an ultra-wide 1440p like this Samsung G8


Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.5GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X870-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, M.2 PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 7)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB ZOTAC GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti SUPER TRINITY BLACK EDITION - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
4TB CORSAIR CORE XT MP600 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD (up to 5000 MB/R, 4400 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR ICUE LINK H150i RGB HIGH PERFORMANCE CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
NONE OR ONBOARD Wi-Fi (MOTHERBOARD DEPENDENT)
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days

Price: £2,526.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/dugW0uMwQm/
 
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AdaFox

Member
thanks,

I see they have a prebuilt system specs below. Would the new 9800x3d fit the motherboard so i can replace if needed down the line? or do i wait and get a system with it pre built in to save the hassle?

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D 12 Core CPU (4.4GHz-5.6GHz/140MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE X670 AORUS ELITE AX (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 32GB)
Graphics Card
24GB PALIT GEFORCE RTX 4090 GAMEROCK OMNIBLACK - HDMI, 3 x DP
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 990 PRO M.2, PCIe 4.0 NVMe (up to 7450MB/R, 6900MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Get a discount code for 20% off select peripherals at Corsair.com
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 360 Series ARGB High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
AdaFox said:
I see they have a prebuilt system specs below. Would the new 9800x3d fit the motherboard so i can replace if needed down the line? or do i wait and get a system with it pre built in to save the hassle?
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1) DON'T GET A PREBUILT - as it will have some corner-cutting components to give the builder extra profit (cooler, single SSD, older-spec PSU)

2) the motherboard is fine (although the newer X870E motherboards have wifi7, PCIe 5 and USB4/Thunderbolt for about £30-£50 more)

3) you simply have to wait a few days for the 9800X3D

4) don't skimp on PSU and cooler (so 1200w RMx or higher, and Corsair H115i/150i cooler)

5) split your boot/storage over at least 2 SSD; primary drive for Windows/apps/launchers is a toss-up between the ULTRAFAST 1TB Crucial T700 or a fast 512GB/1TB Solidigm Pro - the Solidigm is significantly cheaper and more reliable than the Samsungs; secondary drive for game installs doesn't need to be as fast, so the 4TB Corsair one above would be perfect (reliable and fast)

6) are you planning on gaming at 4K, is that why you've picked the 4090?

7) remove the Norton malware trial
 
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AdaFox

Member
Hello,

I do normally build my own but part of me just wanted the ease of plugging in and away i go.
I only specced one storage as id add my own once recieved.

Yes 4k is the idea, having never done more than hd. hence my question about a suitable monitor etc.
Agreed norton is like a chocolate fireguard......

Adam
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
AdaFox said:
Hello,

I do normally build my own but part of me just wanted the ease of plugging in and away i go.
I only specced one storage as id add my own once recieved.

Yes 4k is the idea, having never done more than hd. hence my question about a suitable monitor etc.
Agreed norton is like a chocolate fireguard......

Adam
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I mean 'pre-built' as in already configured where you don't get much choice in the components.

'Custom built' is where you pick the parts and get it assembled by a company.

PCSpecialist offer both on their website - but as above, the pre-builts tend to have some, er, 'sub-optimal' choices.
 
Ekans2011

Ekans2011

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
AdaFox said:
I only specced one storage as id add my own once recieved.
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What storage do you have? If it is suitable (at least M.2 Gen 3), order a single 512GB P44 Pro as the OS drive.

AdaFox said:
Yes 4k is the idea, having never done more than hd. hence my question about a suitable monitor etc.
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Personally, I believe that QHD/Ultrawide/Superwide 1440p is the best resolution for gaming.

If you want 4K, you can maintain the 4070ti SUPER and upgrade to a new RTX 5000 when they are released next year (January-February) or go for a 4080 SUPER (if your budget allows).

Remember that a suitable 4K gaming monitor is much more expensive than a 1440p one.
 
SpyderTracks

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As someone that owns 4k and Superwide 1440, 4k isn't all it's cracked up to be, the benefit of ultrawide aspect ratio IMHO is far better for gaming than standard aspect ratio at 4k especially nowadays when support for ultra wide is almost universal.

Going from 1440p to 4k made no significant difference for me.

Going from anything to superwide was like going from a normal screen to a VR headset, it was a completely new experience, and even 2 years later, that feeling hasn't deteriorated.
 
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AdaFox

Member
if im honest i dont have the first idea about resolution and whats best etc. its probably clear i know nothing about pcs the more you ask!!!

and i appreciate costs are high for anything decent.

Maybe if i put my specs what im currently running would help.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-9900KF CPU @ 3.60GHz 3.60 GHz
MSI MPG Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon
32Gb Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (2x16gb)
RTX 3090 Tuf Gaming
Corsair Hyrdo 115i RGB 280mm
Corsair HX850i PSU
Corsair 5000D Case

Its not the best for high setting on flight sim. Things like iracing is fine but with the new msfs2024 just fancied getting something to really push the detail.

Adam
 
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TonyCarter

VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
MSFS2020 is heavily CPU-limited, so a very fast CPU would release more frames from the 3090 you have.

For example, I've seen the 9900KF + RTX3090 producing consistently 40-50FPS at 4K Ultra, but a bump up in CPU only to the 12900K boosted the FPS into the 50-60fps range for the same flight scenario (DX11).

However, I know the 7800X3D offered even more FPS than the 13/14th gen i7/i9 CPUs with the same RTX3090.

If I were you, I'd save the GPU to put into a build based around a 9800X3D.

BTW, how many m.2 SSDs do you already have - or is everything on a single drive?
 
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AdaFox

Member
well i was tempted to just keep my current setup for my racing rig as it is perfect as is.

Currently 2 x samsung m2 drives and a ssd too.
 
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