New PC, worried about heat/sound

[MMDos]

When it comes to RAM, if you're needing a significant amount, one option is to buy the PC with the cheapest RAM you can (1x4GB @ 2400mhz) then purchase your own RAM to put in. I don't believe PCS sells 64GB as there was stability issues with 3600mhz when Ryzen 5000 first came out and they just haven't added it back.

For game storage, there isn't really a recommended speed. All I say is just make sure it's on SSD, the time differences for loading aren't huge between SATA and NVME, but with Direct Storage coming soon that could change.

DDR4 build looks good I'd still personally go with my storage setup though

My reasoning is as follows: The first NVMe is the OS one, I dont want to touch that for many years, so I dont want to get a small drive. For the second one, this is the one that will be swapped whenever I want to upgrade in the future. So getting 1 TB now is fine as, by the time I filled both NVMes, I would have enough to just remove the second one, replace it with a larger capacity high speed one, and then maybe just sell it to get some value.

Also, do you know where I can request PCS to bring back the 3600MHz 64GB for the alder lake builds?

 

[JUNI0R]

My reasoning is as follows: The first NVMe is the OS one, I dont want to touch that for many years, so I dont want to get a small drive. For the second one, this is the one that will be swapped whenever I want to upgrade in the future. So getting 1 TB now is fine as, by the time I filled both NVMes, I would have enough to just remove the second one, replace it with a larger capacity high speed one, and then maybe just sell it to get some value.

Also, do you know where I can request PCS to bring back the 3600MHz 64GB for the alder lake builds?

Fair enough for the first one although 500GB should still be plenty. For the 2nd one, does it not just make more sense to get a larger one to begin with theny you won't need to upgrade as soon? Gen 3 is still lightning quick and the Intel 670p is a decent little drive

The best way to request that would be by calling or the live chat (in the bottom left of the website)

 

[MMDos]

Fair enough for the first one although 500GB should still be plenty. For the 2nd one, does it not just make more sense to get a larger one to begin with theny you won't need to upgrade as soon? Gen 3 is still lightning quick and the Intel 670p is a decent little drive

The best way to request that would be by calling or the live chat (in the bottom left of the website)

500GB is sufficient, however, the first drive pretty much will never be updated. So I want a very fast and large NVMe that will not be beaten any time soon.

I have been gaming on a 500GB PS4 for 4+ years now and only recently did I get an upgrade, so while it is fine if we are talking about the second drive, it cant be used as a first drive. Also, I have a 2TB Barracuda HDD that I will be using for mass storage (e.g. movies, documents, etc). Even if all the games I got were 100GB (which is considered quite high even for AAA games), I can still have around 18+ games on my device. And I dont see myself playing 18 games at the same time.

However, I will take your points in mind. I might change to a slower but larger NVMe when I am buying.

 

[MMDos]

Hi. As a work around to the DRM issue causing certain games to not work on alder lake builds, activating legacy game compatibility mode in the motherboard BIOS puts the E cores on standby which resolves this issue.

However, I am not sure, of the available DDR4 Z690 motherboards, which ones have that mode as of this moment.

Additionally, is there any major difference between the Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite DDR4 and the Asus TUF Gaming Z690-PLUS WiFi D4 (besides wifi)? For a high-end build (12900k, 3090, 64GB 3600CL18) which would be more suitable and is there a significant difference?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Hi. As a work around to the DRM issue causing certain games to not work on alder lake builds, activating legacy game compatibility mode in the motherboard BIOS puts the E cores on standby which resolves this issue.

However, I am not sure, of the available DDR4 Z690 motherboards, which ones have that mode as of this moment.

Additionally, is there any major difference between the Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite DDR4 and the Asus TUF Gaming Z690-PLUS WiFi D4 (besides wifi)? For a high-end build (12900k, 3090, 64GB 3600CL18) which would be more suitable and is there a significant difference?

I've merged your threads together so we can see the history which makes it easier to understand.

Have you ordered anything yet? If so can you post the full specs?

 

[MMDos]

I've merged your threads together so we can see the history which makes it easier to understand.

Have you ordered anything yet? If so can you post the full specs?

I dont believe the history is that relevant. For one, it mostly concerns an AMD build I was considering before Alder Lake launch or storage details. My current concerns (DDR4 Alder Lake and the DRM issue) are not at all related.

I have yet to order. For one, because I have yet to finalize the build (as is implied by my latest thread).

This is the current build, but I am split between motherboards (and since the Gigabyte one is more expensive and I cant go above 2500 Ill need to change some details if I go for that mobo).

My questions are:

1. Which mobos have the DRM workaround available right now?
2. Is there a significant performance difference between the two mobos in question?

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900K (3.2GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3x Corsair LL120 RGB LED Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
2 PORT (2 x TYPE A) USB 3.0 PCI-E CARD + STANDARD USB PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Surge Protection
6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 13 to 15 working days
Price: €2,490.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/!YYc!YegaR/

 

[MMDos]

The 5000X case is no longer available. so I went for the BQ Base 601. I have a HDD at home that I will add later to this build.

Case
BE QUIET! BASE 601 TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 16-Core Processor i9-12900K (3.2GHz) 30MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NONE, I ALREADY HAVE A GRAPHICS CARD
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 520 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 5000MB/R, 4400MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HX SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H150i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3x CoolerMaster SickleFlow 120 ARGB + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Christmas Delivery No Longer Guaranteed - Assembly From 29/12/2021
Price: €2,489.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/intel-z690-pc/QvjmDVCEAs/

 

[MMDos]

I have an order in building stage right now and considering going from 1TB+1TB NVMes to 0.5T+2T NVMes, but I want to know if it is possible to amend it.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I have an order in building stage right now and considering going from 1TB+1TB NVMes to 0.5T+2T NVMes, but I want to know if it is possible to amend it.

If it's in building you can still amend it but it may include a small charge. It's the same process as normal though.