Nova 15.6 - Ryzen 9 Temps/Review + Sound Blaster 6 Cinema

NorthDakota

Bronze Level Poster
Hey all,

Finally got my Nova 15.6 on Friday.

As a guide* to production times:
Processed Date: 21/05/2020
Pre-Production Date: 22/05/2020
Build Date: 01/06/2020
Test Date: 02/06/2020
Dispatched: 04/06/2020
Arrived 05/06/2020

Build:

Chassis & DisplayNova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
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Change to: AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 16GB)
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Change to: 32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics CardNVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive2TB Samsung 860 QVO 2.5" SSD, SATA 6Gb/s (up to 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
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Partitions: 1500GB, 500GB
1st M.2 SSD Drive500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
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Partitions: 500GB
Memory Card ReaderIntegrated Micro-SD Memory Card Reader
AC Adaptor1 x 230W AC Adaptor
Power Cable1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
BatteryNova Series 4 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Thermal PasteSTANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card2 Channel High Def. Audio + SoundBlaster™ Cinema
Bluetooth & WirelessGIGABIT LAN & KILLER™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 M.2 GAMING + BLUETOOTH 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options1 x USB 3.2 PORT (Type C) + 2 x USB 3.2 PORTS + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Keyboard Language15" NOVA SERIES UK KEYBOARD
Operating SystemNO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System LanguageUnited Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery MediaNO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office SoftwareFREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-VirusNO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
BrowserGoogle Chrome™
Notebook MouseINTEGRATED 2 BUTTON TOUCHPAD MOUSE
WebcamINTEGRATED 1MP HD WEBCAM
Surge Protection6 Socket 2m Surge Protector
Warranty3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
DeliverySUNDAY DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (BEFORE 2PM)
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Change to: STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build TimeStandard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Welcome BookPCSpecialist Welcome Book - United Kingdom & Republic of Ireland

*Every build if unique to times vary this is the times for my build.

Review:
When the laptop arrived it was well packaged within a large box supported by two air pocketed corner units 'hugging' the laptop to ensure no damage during transit.

On booting up everything was good to go followed the steps @SpyderTracks advised to link my my windows 10 account to save me £100.00 on a WIN 10 key from PCS. This worked a charm.

Updated some NVIDIA drivers and done some Windows Updates.

I noticed immediately that the laptop was very fast, slick with a high response time. The keyboard is very responsive and the LED backlit trumps the old Vortex system as I much prefer it.

I have had no issues at all with the system. I have tried out Hitman 2 which ran on full ULTRA including Motion Blur at 92 FPS according to Mumbai benchmark and 105 FPS on a partial ULTRA. I have not yet tested out more games. I have also ran the Civ 6 Gathering Storm AI check which showed an turn time of 39.46 seconds. I could have upped this by fiddling with the CPU settings but it worked very well.

Definitely trumps my old Vortex IV (PCS Laptop) which was 6 years old and I am actually preferring the 15.6" screen over my old 17.3". The weight of this system is also a good bit different from the Vortex.

I had researched this laptop vigorously from posts on the comments, PC Gamer review, reviews of the same model, from different suppliers (CLEVO model), GPU and CPU reviews. This is a beast of a system. Overkill in a lot of respects but well worth it. @SpyderTracks had helped me build my system and I added a couple of upgrades after his advice notably upping the RAM and CPU. This is not recommended at all, but my job role is changing and I may require the additional loads time will tell and for the cost it was not unreasonable.

I have bought a cooling pad to help with the airflow aside from this everything is as is described. Overall I am very happy with my purchase :)

Sound Blaster 6:
I became aware that when downloading Sound Blaster 6 Cinema from the drivers package on PCS itself that the software did not install or no boot/application/executable within the folder.
I decided to check out the driver disk in case anything was missing on the PCS folder. Turns out there is a section on the disk for 'preinstalled hardware'. When I found this I clicked through it and I found Sound Blaster 6 Cinema. Copied over the file on to a USB and read the 'readme' which advised how to install it. I then put the USB into the Nova and followed the instructions as stated on the readme. Then after a restart it loaded up and have had no issues since.

NOTE: The Nova does not contain a disk drive so you'll need another laptop/computer to do this otherwise you may have to ask PCS to upload it but I don't know how feasible this is.

AMD Ryzen Master - Sound click noise in game/any audio output
I noticed whilst AMD Ryzen Master application was open that there was a clicking noise every few seconds from the speakers this was noticed in game, on spotify and on youtube. As soon as I closed the application I heard nothing.

I googled this and no one seemed to suggest this was an issue. So FYI with anyone who hears a 'clicking noise' whilst this is open. Note the noise only happens when you are outputting audio via the speakers so it is inaudible when nothing is playing.

Question:
First time using a AMD processor having been a Intel fan boy for years. I've noticed it is very fast and powerful however the temps seem to raise to a high level. At one stage it peaked at 105 degrees, I have since fiddled with AMD Ryzen Master (CPU Manager) to undervolt the system and noticed prior to this that a few settings were off.

I am not a wizz with this sort of stuff could someone advise what is safe temps for this processor. My solution to reduce it to a healthy idle of 40-50 degree was to undervolt it to 1.1/1.15v. But I understand there may be better/other options. Whilst running normally the PPT option in Ryzen seems to almost max out and I don't understand why (Picture one). Is this a concern? Is this normal. Note when this happened I was not in game and task manager shows my CPU as 5%.

I've attached some photos for reference taking from my mobile so I apologise if it isn't the best.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
It's looking pretty sweet, thermals look well under control.

Have you adjusted any voltages for the CPU or done any overclocking etc?

It's recommended not to overclock Ryzen for gaming purposes as it will actually reduce performance as it will lower boost clocks to the highest available on the weakest core which will be significantly lower than one of the stronger cores.

You may well benefit from an undervolt though, although it looks like it's well within parameters.
 

SpyderTracks

We love you Ukraine
Just one thing to add, if you get any wifi issues, in the past it was always advised to uninstall the Killer Control Center as it used to cause limitations on download speeds and various other things. It was generally advised to uninstall any of the bloatware management apps and just leave the driver installed.

That was a while ago now, so things may well have improved by now, but just in case anything crops up with networking, that would be the first thing I google.

I believe Killer recently got bought out by Intel, so there may well be some updates to the management software apps fairly shortly.
 

NorthDakota

Bronze Level Poster
It's looking pretty sweet, thermals look well under control.

Have you adjusted any voltages for the CPU or done any overclocking etc?

It's recommended not to overclock Ryzen for gaming purposes as it will actually reduce performance as it will lower boost clocks to the highest available on the weakest core which will be significantly lower than one of the stronger cores.

You may well benefit from an undervolt though, although it looks like it's well within parameters.

I haven't OC'd anything. I tried the Precision Boost Mode and put in some of the values as mentioned on another thread for TDC an EDC. Seemed a little much to fiddle with that so I didn't bother. I just set a second profile and kept everything as it was and set the Peak Core Voltage to 1.1/1.15V this rapidly drops temps and I haven't noticed anything in terms of performance. I know I could set the Ryzen to 'high performance' via power and settings but I don't see the benefit. Sometimes I leave the CPU on the stock settings but if I see the temp as being 'too high' probably more from fear I just undervolt it a little.

When I'm just browsing and doing light stuff I set it via control center as 'quiet' to limit fan noise backed by my laptop cooling pad. Then when going in game I set it to performance. This boosts fan speeds to reduce heat faster or that's what I seen anyway.

Just one thing to add, if you get any wifi issues, in the past it was always advised to uninstall the Killer Control Center as it used to cause limitations on download speeds and various other things. It was generally advised to uninstall any of the bloatware management apps and just leave the driver installed.

That was a while ago now, so things may well have improved by now, but just in case anything crops up with networking, that would be the first thing I google.

I believe Killer recently got bought out by Intel, so there may well be some updates to the management software apps fairly shortly.
I noticed this before on my Vortex IV. Nothing adverse noted yet but I'll keep an eye on it!
 

maha

Silver Level Poster
I really like the full clevo keyboard
Is the processor soldered or is it possible to change it? (I could buy the laptop with the Ryzen 5 and change it to a Ryzen 9 3900X or 3950X)
Are the fans silent (less than 30dB)?
 

NorthDakota

Bronze Level Poster
I really like the full clevo keyboard
Is the processor soldered or is it possible to change it? (I could buy the laptop with the Ryzen 5 and change it to a Ryzen 9 3900X or 3950X)
Are the fans silent (less than 30dB)?

You are able to upgrade the CPU depending on socket etc as per the above reply.

In terms of the fans, they are noisy I cannot get you a dB range as I don't have a device to judge this. However it is a desktop replacement it is expected to be loud. Also note you can run it it 'Quiet' mode from the control center which drops the fan speed dramatically.
 
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