Nova 15.6

[JosDea]

Hi all first time posting here.

You may of come across me on techpowerup as Pantherx12.

Just received this and I'm loving it
Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
2TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)

Updated a few things and enabled PBO and got this cinebench score. Absolutely crazy for a laptop.

Does anyone else have this laptop and can post their scores?

 

[Kamilas]

Hi all first time posting here.

You may of come across me on techpowerup as Pantherx12.

Just received this and I'm loving it
Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
2TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)

Updated a few things and enabled PBO and got this cinebench score. Absolutely crazy for a laptop.

Does anyone else have this laptop and can post their scores?
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I ordered Nova few days ago, can't wait to get mine. May I know ho long you've been waiting for your to be build and delivered?

 

[NorthDakota]

I get mine tomorrow

 

[Segwayrider]

Hi all first time posting here.

You may of come across me on techpowerup as Pantherx12.

Just received this and I'm loving it
Chassis & Display
Nova Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 3900 12 Core CPU (3.1GHz-4.3GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1st Storage Drive
2TB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 470MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 1800MB/sR | 1800MB/sW)

Updated a few things and enabled PBO and got this cinebench score. Absolutely crazy for a laptop.

Does anyone else have this laptop and can post their scores?
View attachment 16494

What options for keyboard lighting does it have? Doesn't really say on the page (not that it matters).
Would you mind showing a pic with its back opened up? Would like to see how "easy" it would be to replace the battery and if its worth odering an extra.
Mine is currently building so hopefully I would have it by next week

 

[NorthDakota]

What options for keyboard lighting does it have? Doesn't really say on the page (not that it matters).
Would you mind showing a pic with its back opened up? Would like to see how "easy" it would be to replace the battery and if its worth odering an extra.
Mine is currently building so hopefully I would have it by next week

As it's a desktop replacement it will run the battery down very fast i.e. 1 hour if you're lucky. It should always be plugged into the Mains. I wouldn't bother getting a spare to be honest

 

[Segwayrider]

As it's a desktop replacement it will run the battery down very fast i.e. 1 hour if you're lucky. It should always be plugged into the Mains. I wouldn't bother getting a spare to be honest

I defiantly only intend to only move it from socket to socket. Its more about the future in case the current one degrade beyond 20-15 min, thereby not leaving me enough time to move to another socket.

 

[Bukky]

Oh wow. CB20 multicore 6266. With a laptop. That's insane.

This makes my own decision (Nova or Vyper) even more complicated...

Hope that after while you'll tell us a little bit about thermals and overall stability ! Have fun with this beast !

 

[JosDea]

What options for keyboard lighting does it have? Doesn't really say on the page (not that it matters).
Would you mind showing a pic with its back opened up? Would like to see how "easy" it would be to replace the battery and if its worth odering an extra.
Mine is currently building so hopefully I would have it by next week

Right so lighting wise the software you can download from pc specialist allows for basic colour control. I.e set it and forget it has about 20 colours to choose from and 4 lighting levels.

Battery wise I'll have a look when home but I'm fairly sure it's a module so easy replacement.

Regarding thermals etc as the other person asked.

Mine idles at 50c with default fan curve. Gets up to 80c with pbo turned on. Fan noise levels are crazy though. Headphones reccomended with this pc.

I've adjusted fan curve so they don't kick in hard until 75c which means regular desktop use is tolerable. This gives it an all core boost of 3.6 GHz and 4.225 single core. Be sure to update Ryzen master for pbo to function correctly single core was as low as 335(cinebench) without that update and PBO enabled.

I've set the limits to 75 tdcand 95pdc a for boost clocks there's not a lot of thermal headroom for increased clock speeds ( 150mhz on all core boost) but clocks are more stable.

Not got round to doing any proper work yet, just playing some of my games maxed out for the first time.


It took 5 days from build to delivery.

 

[JosDea]

Bump

Anyone else with this config able to share temperature ranges of CPU?

Quite toasty. just sitting in windows is 60c or so

 

[Bukky]

Yeah, that's already hot when you do about nothing...
Do you know what thermal paste PCSpecialist have used ? Spydertracks said that on DTRs the "standard thermal paste" is indeed already a better paste but the information seems hard to get...

 

[JosDea]

Yeah, that's already hot when you do about nothing...
Do you know what thermal paste PCSpecialist have used ? Spydertracks said that on DTRs the "standard thermal paste" is indeed already a better paste but the information seems hard to get...

Unfortunately they didn't stipulate what the paste is. Waiting on a laptop cooling pad which I'm hoping reduces things by 5c or so to stop it attempting to take off.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Yeah, that's already hot when you do about nothing...
Do you know what thermal paste PCSpecialist have used ? Spydertracks said that on DTRs the "standard thermal paste" is indeed already a better paste but the information seems hard to get...

It’s the Arctic MX-4 they use on other builds as the higher option.

 

[Bukky]

Oh ok thanks !

 

[Bukky]

So, overall, are you happy with the Nova with the 3900 ? Would you recommend it ? Or would you rather suggest another processor in the Nova (or even another laptop like the Vyper or the Recoil) ?

 

[JosDea]

So, overall, are you happy with the Nova with the 3900 ? Would you recommend it ? Or would you rather suggest another processor in the Nova (or even another laptop like the Vyper or the Recoil) ?

I'm pretty happy, and I would reccomend it. I'd advise a re-paste upon receipt. (If you're competent) I think the stress testing process they utilise cures and drys out the thermal paste as the consistency was like when you take apart someone's old dell pc and the paste has gone all crumbly. Even just using the small syringe included of cheap thermal paste improved thermals.

Idle temperatures are still high (55c or so) however temperatures only exceed 80c during prolonged intense workloads. ( And only exceed it by a degree before fans kick in hard and reduce it back to 80)

For clarity that's a 10 degree drop on load temperatures and a 5 degree drop at idle. This has reduced the overall volume of the system considerably. I've ordered some thermal grizzly I'm hoping for another drop of 5c.
I read above that they are using mx4, imo it's not any better than cheap thermal paste you buy in 500g tubs. Use something better please.

I'll summarise the pros and cons .

Pro :
Looks like a regular laptop ( although a bit of a chunky boy)

Plenty of CPU performance within 14% of the desktop 3900x in multicore tasks and 7% for single core ( Disclaimer according to very limited tests I've ran so far)

Acceptable gaming performance sure you can get better with Intel mobile/desktop and desktop AMD cpus but the laptop is not struggling there's plenty of frames for the 144hz display.

GPU runs at 1680-1700 boost clocks which is not far off the stock clocks for a desktop 2070


Cons : Appears to be an issue where for no reason I can discern the system will set it's ppt to 75w and run the tdc and EDC at 50 massively reducing performance with lower than stock clocks (2.6 GHz all core) I suspect the firmware/BIOS settings are conflicting with Ryzen master I've requested information about advance bios settings key input so I can investigate this issue. This only seems to happen if you utilise Ryzen master.

Temperatures and therefore sound levels were high due to dried thermal paste.

Minor light bleed on my unit on right hand side of display


Sorry for long post wasn't as simple as yes and no. Heh

 

[Bukky]

Thank you very much for the detailed answer !

EDIT : very weird issue you're describing, by the way.

 

[danhar827]

Really useful post thanks.

I'll do some more general research prior to any attempts, but as we're talking specifically about the Nova, is there anything specifically that you would advise to look out for when re-pasting it?

Cheers!

 

[JosDea]

Really useful post thanks.

I'll do some more general research prior to any attempts, but as we're talking specifically about the Nova, is there anything specifically that you would advise to look out for when re-pasting it?

Cheers!

There's nothing really to look out for. gpu and cpu both have 3 screws each then there's an additional 2 screws holding down the copper coated fan housing for the gpu.

Just remember to disconect from mains power and remove battery.

Had a quick play with manual settings, if PBO was working correctly this would be an even bigger monster of a laptop.
4ghz all core. Runs the CPU at 75w instead of 65w so more than doable by PBO.

Not worth the hit to single core, shame they don't support sepperate overclocking for single core and multicore.

 

[cg.stefan.this]

I received my Nova this Saturday, I'm quite happy as well. It's a very good machine. But it's also quite hot despite only a 3700x. I have decent temps around 55 in idle but I've played Forza Horizon 4 for 30 minutes and the CPU reached above 90C in Performance mode. Also I noticed that temps in the fan speed settings are not the same at all as Ryzen Master. I keep a stable temp in Ryzen Master but it's very jumpy in the control center, which makes the fans going up and down constantly. Which one to trust? because if Ryzen master is right, I probably don't go above 95C. I hope they fix this temp reading.

update: after investigation, it seems like the issue is due to the temp reading mode used by the fans control center, similar to almost every other temp monitor softwares but different from the Ryzen Master which is showing the average temp of the cpu. If the control center would use the same temp reading mode, tweaking fan the curves would be much easier and fans would stop ramping up every 5 seconds.

 

[JosDea]

I received my Nova this Saturday, I'm quite happy as well. It's a very good machine. But it's also quite hot despite only a 3700x. I have decent temps around 55 in idle but I've played Forza Horizon 4 for 30 minutes and the CPU reached above 90C in Performance mode. Also I noticed that temps in the fan speed settings are not the same at all as Ryzen Master. I keep a stable temp in Ryzen Master but it's very jumpy in the control center, which makes the fans going up and down constantly. Which one to trust? because if Ryzen master is right, I probably don't go above 95C. I hope they fix this temp reading.

update: after investigation, it seems like the issue is due to the temp reading mode used by the fans control center, similar to almost every other temp monitor softwares but different from the Ryzen Master which is showing the average temp of the cpu. If the control center would use the same temp reading mode, tweaking fan the curves would be much easier and fans would stop ramping up every 5 seconds.

I ended up uninstalling control centre. It doesn't really offer much aside from fan control.