PC for my son, please help! KINDA URGENT, PART NOT IN STOCK

[sck451]

The Pop Silent is ok. It's not an amazing choice because the airflow isn't amazing which means cooling isn't great, certainly not as good as the 4000D (which also has a glass side panel, for what it's worth), but it's not too bad. I'd give it a hesitant "yes, probably". I don't think you could add extra fans with that case; as I recall it has a solid roof. (I'm on a train so can't look it up!)

And yes, you'd be fine with any old cheap display, so long as it has HDMI/DisplayPort input. Using it as a second display is fine; as you say, it's as nothing compared to a game. There's a Linus Tech Tips video where they demonstrate this; I'll see if I can find it when I'm home...

 

[TonyCarter]

4000D is glass-sided, and has an airflow mesh front...

The Fractal Pop has a solid front so the airflow isn't as good...

If you want more glass, then the Corsair iCUE 4000X has front & side glass (but can't see a black version ATM)...

 

[alemor311]

The Pop Silent is ok. It's not an amazing choice because the airflow isn't amazing which means cooling isn't great, certainly not as good as the 4000D (which also has a glass side panel, for what it's worth), but it's not too bad. I'd give it a hesitant "yes, probably". I don't think you could add extra fans with that case; as I recall it has a solid roof. (I'm on a train so can't look it up!)

And yes, you'd be fine with any old cheap display, so long as it has HDMI/DisplayPort input. Using it as a second display is fine; as you say, it's as nothing compared to a game. There's a Linus Tech Tips video where they demonstrate this; I'll see if I can find it when I'm home...

Thank you for the replies, love that you guys are so helpful. Switched the case back and we'll look at the second monitor in the new year. So after much deliberation and help from here I was about to order and the processor cooler I had specified is now out of stock! I've switched it to the Frostflow 240 liquid cooler which is in stock. Can you please tell me, will that be OK? I'd like to get it ordered tonight so it's hopefully here in time for the big guy in the red suit to take all the credit so swift replies very much appreciated please.

Yet more thanks!

Case
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 5600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 240 Series RGB High Performance Liquid Cooler (AMD)
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 For Gamers: 1 User, 3 Devices - 1 Year Subscription
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Monitor
MSI 27" G274QPX - 2560 x 1440, 1MS, 240Hz
Keyboard & Mouse
ASUS TUF K1 Gaming Keyboard & M3 Gen II Mouse Bundle
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 5 to 7 working days
Price: £2,571.00 including VAT and Delivery

 

[sck451]

It's probably fine. I'd be a little hesitant to recommend the Frost Flow liquid coolers as, not being a name brand, they're likely to be a little lower quality and we've had reports of their being noisy or pumps failing surprisingly early. I'd prefer one of the Corsair H100i coolers, but that might be a touch expensive for you...

 

[alemor311]

It's probably fine. I'd be a little hesitant to recommend the Frost Flow liquid coolers as, not being a name brand, they're likely to be a little lower quality and we've had reports of their being noisy or pumps failing surprisingly early. I'd prefer one of the Corsair H100i coolers, but that might be a touch expensive for you...

How about the H100x? I'll go for the H100i if you think it's the right thing to do as I'd rather spend a little more for peace of mind, (but will happily save a little if appropriate!). While far from top of the range this build still feels like a significant piece of kit to me and I don't want to cheap out and risk consequences.

I notice there are a few H100i's. Do you mean the CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler? Don't suppose I really need an LCD display...

 

[TonyCarter]

The CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler or the CORSAIR iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler

Either will be sufficient for the 7800x3D...the H100i being 2x120mm fans, and the H115i being 2x140mm fans (a little quieter as they run slower for the same amount of airflow)...but neither will be noisy unless the fan profiles are misconfigured in the iCUE software.

 

[SiAdams]

In case you have forgotten, remove the Norton anti virus

 

[alemor311]

In case you have forgotten, remove the Norton anti virus

Why? I'll need some antivirus, surely?

 

[sck451]

Why? I'll need some antivirus, surely?

Windows Defender, the built-in antivirus, is as good as most paid ones, and especially Norton, now more of a system hog than an antivirus.

And there's nothing more important than safe browsing and internet practices!

 

[alemor311]

Windows Defender, the built-in antivirus, is as good as most paid ones, and especially Norton, now more of a system hog than an antivirus.

And there's nothing more important than safe browsing and internet practices!

Did not know that. So the Kaspersky I pay for on my laptop is unnecessary?

 

[sck451]

Did not know that. So the Kaspersky I pay for on my laptop is unnecessary?

I'd say Kaspersky is actively bad, not just unnecessary. I wouldn't trust my defence against infection/malware in the hands of a company close to the Russian government...

 

[Scott]

Norton started hijacking resources, pretty much without warning, at one point. Very underhanded behaviour IMO so wouldn't put anything past Kaspersky nowadays.

Windows Defender is definitely the way to go for 99% of people. The 1% remaining know exactly what they need and what they're doing