PC upgrade advice

[Scott]

Do you think even my case needs upgrading though?
Also, I've never sold a part in my life, is there someplace you can recommend for that or is it the standard ebay/fb marketplace combo?

I think you're misunderstanding. I meant sell your PC as a whole, as the only thing you would use in a new build would be the case, so it's not worthwhile.

Better to sell what you have and start from scratch.

 

[Sanzaburo]

Is changing my current ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS that much advantageous?
Because this mobo isn't that bad, I'd prefer to leave it in and I won't have to hassle figuring out how to assemble my whole new PC just relying on pcspecialist to do it for me.

This is the upgrade I've been advised:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 ---> AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
GPU - GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER ---> GEFORCE RTX 4070 Ti Super
RAM - 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB) ---> 16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB) --- Total will be 32GB RAM (4 x 8GB)
PSU - CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES ---> Corsair 850W RMx Series
M.2 - 500GB Samsung 970 ---> 1TB Samsung 980
Cooler - Standard AMD cooler ---> Corsair H100X

Do all above upgrades make sense?

 

[Scoped Badger]

You’ve already been advised in this thread about upgrades, so I don’t suppose they’ve changed.

How much would all those cost?

 

[Sanzaburo]

Nah, upgrades didn't change, just wanted to double check since I have no clue about this stuff.
They said £1.4k for the above.

 

[Scoped Badger]

In that case, like you’ve already been advised, I would sell your current PC and put that money with the £1,400 it would cost to upgrade this one and get a completely new build. You’ll find you get much more for your money.

 

[Sanzaburo]

I can also save up for a few months and spend even more I appreciate the advice but it's so impractical

 

[SpyderTracks]

I can also save up for a few months and spend even more I appreciate the advice but it's so impractical

I think you're misunderstanding what’s being said. To upgrade your current system will cost just as much as replacing it but for older generation components that are outperformed now at the same price point, it’s not worth it.

If you sold your current system, you’d have a bulk of cash plus whatever you want to spend and you’d get a far better system.

Its a lesson in the importance of designing a strong platform at the outset

 

[Scoped Badger]

I can also save up for a few months and spend even more I appreciate the advice but it's so impractical

I'd argue it's actually the opposite, but it's your choice. It's an extra lump sum towards a new build. To me, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Sanzaburo]

Its a lesson in the importance of designing a strong platform at the outset

Fair enough. I probably came off pissy, but I do really appreciate everyone's willingness to offer advice.

After considering my options and what you guys said so far:

• I don't even want a more expensive system. I can afford one, but I don't understand why would I spend more on a PC. I just want to have an ok system that can run 1 or 2 games from this year. Most of what I play are older games anyway, which already run on my current setup.
• I'm pretty sure I don't want to assemble the PC by myself, as I don't have the patience to learn, and I'm struggling to find a trustworthy service in London who can help, so I'm most likely going to rely on PCspecialist.
• Unless my current mobo is absolute trash, I'm down to upgrade on top of what I have, which will also mean that I have a slimmer selection of parts offered by PCspecialist, which in turn saves me the hassle of weighing a myriad of options.

So marginal improvements and small cost savings aside - would I regret keeping my current mother board after 2-3 years?
Because I guess there's a world where I sell my whole current PC, and just buy a whole new system from PCspecialist.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Because I guess there's a world where I sell my whole current PC, and just buy a whole new system from PCspecialist.

We keep coming back to the same thing I'm afraid, it's been said 4 times now

It's not worth upgrading your current PC

Motherboard was never mentioned unless you were entirely rebuilding the whole PC, in which case, we're back to the same thing that we've been trying to get through which would be to sell your current system

If you have £1500 considered, I would look to sell your current pc to bump up the available budget and just get new. You're literally only going to be taking the case with you. Even the drives are out dated, maybe keep one for storage but other than that it's the best way to get value.

I think you're misunderstanding. I meant sell your PC as a whole, as the only thing you would use in a new build would be the case, so it's not worthwhile.

Better to sell what you have and start from scratch.

In that case, like you’ve already been advised, I would sell your current PC and put that money with the £1,400 it would cost to upgrade this one and get a completely new build. You’ll find you get much more for your money.

I think you're misunderstanding what’s being said. To upgrade your current system will cost just as much as replacing it but for older generation components that are outperformed now at the same price point, it’s not worth it.

If you sold your current system, you’d have a bulk of cash plus whatever you want to spend and you’d get a far better system.

I'd argue it's actually the opposite, but it's your choice. It's an extra lump sum towards a new build. To me, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Sanzaburo]

Fair enough, I think I really tunnelvisioned on upgrading over than buying everything, as the latter will be a massive pain due to how many option that opens up.

I'll build a brand new PC for about £1,500 and try to sell what I have.
I'll use the advice you kindly shared in your earlier post, which I am very grateful for.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Fair enough, I think I really tunnelvisioned on upgrading over than buying everything, as the latter will be a massive pain due to how many option that opens up.

I'll build a brand new PC for about £1,500 and try to sell what I have.
I'll use the advice you kindly shared in your earlier post, which I am very grateful for.

You're missing what's being said, but I'm not sure we can say it any other way.

I wouldn't build anything based on what's been advised so far as that was for upgrading your outdated platform, wouldn't be relevant to a modern PC. The idea was to sell the PC first, and then use the proceeds towards a replacement so you wouldn’t necessarily need to outlay £1500

All the best with it, hope you get what you want.

 

[Sanzaburo]

Sure, you guys talked me out of trying to work with what I currently have, so I'll just keep trudging through various advice online, until I figure out a brand new PC.
The mountain of options and variations of parts is already giving me a headache

Also, you guys advising to sell my PC and then buy a new one are waaaaaay too casual about just going days without a PC at home 😅

If I'm now looking for advice for a prebuild or a brand new custom build form PCspecialist - should I create a new thread or would anyone advise on here?

 

[SpyderTracks]

Sure, you guys talked me out of trying to work with what I currently have, so I'll just keep trudging through various advice online, until I figure out a brand new PC.
The mountain of options and variations of parts is already giving me a headache

Also, you guys advising to sell my PC and then buy a new one are waaaaaay too casual about just going days without a PC at home 😅

If I'm now looking for advice for a prebuild or a brand new custom build form PCspecialist - should I create a new thread or would anyone advise on here?

You can just continue here.

There's no need to struggle, just ask for help, that's what the forum is about.

If you just state your current make and model of monitor, uses, and max budget, then we can advise.

 

[Sanzaburo]

Fantastic, I appreciate all advice!

My monitor is ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q and my max budget is £1,500.

I don't need to max out on my budget, the game I'm using as benchmark for my new PC has a recommendation of: CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-12700; and GPU - AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Fantastic, I appreciate all advice!

My monitor is ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q and my max budget is £1,500.

I don't need to max out on my budget, the game I'm using as benchmark for my new PC has a recommendation of: CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-12700; and GPU - AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070.

Your budget wouldn’t get you near those specs, £1500 would get you an entry level 1080p system

 

[Sanzaburo]

Oh wow... what budget would I need for those recommended specs?

 

[FigmentOfYourImagination]

GPU-wise I am not sure about as AMD GPUs are not something I'm real knowledgeable about. Also assumes you are transferring the Windows licence from your current machine:

Case
CORSAIR 4000D RGB AIRFLOW TEMPERED GLASS GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core CPU (3.8GHz-5.3GHz/40MB CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7800 XT GAMING - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £1,698.00 including VAT and Delivery
Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/SRgmVhW6Bb/

 

[Martinr36]

My monitor is ASUS TUF Gaming VG249Q

That's only 1080p so could do with upgrading to tie in with the game specs you quoted

I don't need to max out on my budget, the game I'm using as benchmark for my new PC has a recommendation of: CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-12700; and GPU - AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT / Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070.

 

[TonyCarter]

That's only 1080p so could do with upgrading to tie in with the game specs you quoted

Probably needs all that power to get the bare minimum 60FPS in Space Marine 2 at 1080p Ultra (according to the system reqs)...