PSA: The REAL limitation of 8Gb VRAM

[SpyderTracks]

There have been some really good videos about this, Hardware Unboxed have been warning about VRAM issues for a while now, AMD came out

This was last year:

This is now:

And this was a really good video done last year by someone else:

But as you can see, there are now several games that will just not play at all well on an 8Gb GPU already. 8Gb is no longer sufficient, from the data we currently have, 12Gb should be entry level.

AMD warned about this years ago, think it was in 2020, at the time they were saying 4Gb wasn't enough and that requirements were increasing exponentially.

What HUB are stating along with others, is that game developers are now actively being hampered in the graphical capabilities to try to keep them playing on the lower VRAM cards that are still being released, and it's hampering development potential.

That needs to stop, AMD are as much at fault as Nvidia here with the RX 7600 whereas the 7600XT ramped straight up to 16Gb

 

[AccidentalDenz]

My 10Gb 3080's days are numbered! 😱

 

[SpyderTracks]

My 10Gb 3080's days are numbered! 😱

How about me on my 8Gb GTX1080 still??? I do still wonder at this card though given it was released in 2016, I may well frame it, still have my old HD6950 with a dual VBIOS that you could flash and unlock 6970 performance. Proper beast of a card before AMD went irrelevant.

It was more for those prospective buyers, personally I would say if you're thinking of buying a system now, but not in a great rush, wait for the upcoming AMD gpu's in Septemberish time. Nvidia are reportedly holding off until possibly novemberish time for the 5080/90.

But basically, at the moment, anything under the 4070ti Super should be avoided IMHO.

Bear in mind 12Gb is now the minimum to be able to play any game comfortably, but that's CURRENTLY, and if HUB are correct and developers have been scrimping on texture resolution to fit to lower end VRAM allocations, then it would suggest if there is headroom available on next gen cards, upcoming releases will take full advantage of that. So I wouldn't be looking at anything under 16Gb personally if I were buying a new GPU.

 

[HomerJ]

Bear in mind 12Gb is now the minimum to be able to play any game comfortably, but that's CURRENTLY, and if HUB are correct and developers have been scrimping on texture resolution to fit to lower end VRAM allocations, then it would suggest if there is headroom available on next gen cards, upcoming releases will take full advantage of that. So I wouldn't be looking at anything under 16Gb personally if I were buying a new GPU.

it looks as if laptops are going to struggle in the future with less vram

 

[Steveyg]

still have my old HD6950 with a dual VBIOS that you could flash and unlock 6970 performance.

YEEEESSS!!.

I did this Crossfire! Twin Frozr III editions from MSI, Crossfire didn't work for pretty much anything but it was my first real go and overclocking/pushing performance out of a machine

Crossfire 6950's with a 2500K OC'd at 4.6Ghz. God damn you just sent me a nostalgia hit

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/R6950_Twin_Frozr_III_Power_EditionOC/Specification

DOPE

 

[SpyderTracks]

YEEEESSS!!.

I did this Crossfire! Twin Frozr III editions from MSI, Crossfire didn't work for pretty much anything but it was my first real go and overclocking/pushing performance out of a machine

Crossfire 6950's with a 2500K OC'd at 4.6Ghz. God damn you just sent me a nostalgia hit

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/R6950_Twin_Frozr_III_Power_EditionOC/Specification

DOPE

😍😍😍 Mine was a Sapphire model, let’s dig it out and have some tech ****! Was an awesome card!

Still got authentic 2012 dust all over it! Just can't bring myself to throw it out, this was my first proper high end GPU, before then I'd always had entry level models.

 

[HomerJ]

😍😍😍 Mine was a Sapphire model, let’s dig it out and have some tech ****! Was an awesome card!

Still got authentic 2012 dust all over it! Just can't bring myself to throw it out, this was my first proper high end GPU, before then I'd always had entry level models.

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sexy, with added toe

 

[SpyderTracks]

sexy, with added toe

Those are my attic toes, completely different feet to normal

 

[TonyCarter]

Just have to hope PCS offer a VRAM upgrade service like this...

 

[SpyderTracks]

Just have to hope PCS offer a VRAM upgrade service like this...

I wish I had a steady enough hand and the equipment to be able to do board work like this. I find it really fascinating watching these kinds of videos and Louis Rossman and Buildzoid, I don't understand half of it, but still find it fascinating.

 

[TonyCarter]

There are a couple of others I watched when the 4090 connectors were melting and causing issues...
https://www.youtube.com/@NorthridgeFix
https://www.youtube.com/@northwestrepair

 

[AccidentalDenz]

I don't understand half of it, but still find it fascinating.

This is pretty much my feelings whenever I venture into the specs part of the forum - no idea what's going on, but find it all so interesting!

 

[TonyCarter]

It's relatively simple electronics, just got to remember to debobble the flow regulator, decapitualise the blurgles, shave the gloomps, reflow the tuxedo capacitors, and finally give it a good wash in 101% isopropyl liquorice.

 

[SpyderTracks]

It's relatively simple electronics, just got to remember to debobble the flow regulator, decapitualise the blurgles, shave the gloomps, reflow the tuxedo capacitors, and finally give it a good wash in 101% isopropyl liquorice.

 

[TonyCarter]

I bet they pronounce it jiggywatt

 

[AccidentalDenz]

I bet they pronounce it jiggywatt

I know I do!

 

[HomerJ]

I bet they pronounce it jiggywatt

 

[Scoped Badger]

How much VRAM will the new Nvidia cards have? Has it been released yet?

 

[TonyCarter]

How much VRAM will the new Nvidia cards have? Has it been released yet?

Entry-level 5060 128mb for only £400 😁

 

[SpyderTracks]

How much VRAM will the new Nvidia cards have? Has it been released yet?

There’s still very little info aside from the actual die specs so far

There are rumours the 4090 will push up to 28Gb VRAM, and others saying 36Gb, normally if leaks are reliable the usual sources agree on things so think it’s still to early. We do know nvidia will be using GDDR7, whereas AMD is more of a refresh but aiming to significantly increase ray tracing performance but sticking with GDDR6

Theres also new rumours that both AMD and NVidia will delay launch until January now!

Spec	RTX 4090	RTX 5090
Streaming Multiprocessors	128	192
CUDA Cores	16,384	24,576
Ray Tracing Cores	128	192
Tensor Cores	512	768
Boost Clock	2.52 GHz	2.9 GHz
L2 Cache	72MB	128MB
Memory Bandwidth	1,008 GB/s	1,532

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