I don't think I manually downloaded and installed from Nvidia.com. I installed the drivers from PCS which I think included Geforce Experience and then just let that do the updating.
Recoil II RTX In Exploration
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I don't think I manually downloaded and installed from Nvidia.com. I installed the drivers from PCS which I think included Geforce Experience and then just let that do the updating.
I think I found the problem.
Perhaps the CPU was used as a PhysX processor instead of the GPU.
In the nvidia control panel, I set the RTX 2070 as the default PhysX processor.
Now the performances have clearly increased.
The results in the tests are in line with your results.
max FPS and average FPS have increased significantly.
Also the temperature of the GPU, rightly reached 65-70° (good temps however).
Anyway at some point come in power limitation e reliability voltage (obviously).
Below basemark benchmark with default afterburner curve:
Below basemark benchmark with changed afterburner curve:
Max power and max voltage are locked in vbios.
the mobile gpu is limited to 115W but with a small % margin.
From what I understand GPU Boost 4.0 pushes GPU frequencies as max as possible until the power limit or voltage limit/reliability have reached (temperatures permitting).
I saw the Power GPU reach 124W, 2100mhz with voltage that go up over 1V
temperatures never above 71° with low fans speed.
need to download again 3dmark and rerun.
Perhaps the CPU was used as a PhysX processor instead of the GPU.
In the nvidia control panel, I set the RTX 2070 as the default PhysX processor.
Now the performances have clearly increased.
The results in the tests are in line with your results.
max FPS and average FPS have increased significantly.
Also the temperature of the GPU, rightly reached 65-70° (good temps however).
Anyway at some point come in power limitation e reliability voltage (obviously).
Below basemark benchmark with default afterburner curve:
Below basemark benchmark with changed afterburner curve:
Max power and max voltage are locked in vbios.
the mobile gpu is limited to 115W but with a small % margin.
From what I understand GPU Boost 4.0 pushes GPU frequencies as max as possible until the power limit or voltage limit/reliability have reached (temperatures permitting).
I saw the Power GPU reach 124W, 2100mhz with voltage that go up over 1V
temperatures never above 71° with low fans speed.
need to download again 3dmark and rerun.
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Excellent work, I think you've solved it! Now you're getting higher scores than me, might be time to switch roles and see if there's something I need to set to squeeze a little extra out of mine 
Over the weekend I set a new voltage curve, I now use 1695mhz at 768 mV, if you want to try to get a little extra performance over 1545/725, although that still results in scores lower than yours now
Over the weekend I set a new voltage curve, I now use 1695mhz at 768 mV, if you want to try to get a little extra performance over 1545/725, although that still results in scores lower than yours now
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This time I did not manually change the curve by blocking mhz/volt.
I used OC Scanner (button in top left corner in MSI afterburner curve) so that it make an auto scan with 4 cycle, settings the best values for maximize performance.
I have not set any limits. Limitations i think are vbios power limit and voltage limit. Boost 4.0 reach maximum value as possible (as with default curve) but with a diferent mhz/volt ratio.
Now i'm tryingto understand if power limit and voltage limit/reliability produce throttling ... but i think no. It simply limit.
However, you also try to set the GPU in the nvidia control panel and to remove the automatic selection of the PhysX processor. I'm curious.
I used OC Scanner (button in top left corner in MSI afterburner curve) so that it make an auto scan with 4 cycle, settings the best values for maximize performance.
I have not set any limits. Limitations i think are vbios power limit and voltage limit. Boost 4.0 reach maximum value as possible (as with default curve) but with a diferent mhz/volt ratio.
Now i'm tryingto understand if power limit and voltage limit/reliability produce throttling ... but i think no. It simply limit.
However, you also try to set the GPU in the nvidia control panel and to remove the automatic selection of the PhysX processor. I'm curious.
I set it manually now myself, it made no difference to performance.
The OC scanner will be setting an overclock rather than an undervolt, that explains your performance boost, I'm happy to overclock desktop GPUs but hesitate to do it on a laptop GPU due to the thermal constraints, so I'll stick with the undervolt
The OC scanner will be setting an overclock rather than an undervolt, that explains your performance boost, I'm happy to overclock desktop GPUs but hesitate to do it on a laptop GPU due to the thermal constraints, so I'll stick with the undervolt
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Do note that overclocking the gpu on a laptop will void your warranty with PCS.
Yes, It's just a test, with the default or with the undervolt the performances are more than enough.
With all default (no overclock) Boosts reached all limits anyway: power, volt and mhz. temp never above 70°.
I think overclock is a borderline concept with Boost 4.0.
Anyway, yes , in my case OC scanner change the ration mhz/voltage, make starting with high frequencies with same voltage, but limits are locked in vbios.
With all default (no overclock) Boosts reached all limits anyway: power, volt and mhz. temp never above 70°.
I think overclock is a borderline concept with Boost 4.0.
Anyway, yes , in my case OC scanner change the ration mhz/voltage, make starting with high frequencies with same voltage, but limits are locked in vbios.
Hi,
apologies for jumping on the thread but I think its relevant - I too have recently bought the same laptop and am getting disappointing benchmark results so wanted to try setting the RTX 2070 as the default PhysX processor to see if it worked for me. However, I don't have the NVIDIA control panel installed.
Searching for it only returns web results - which suggest updating the driver but I have updated to the latest drivers using GeForce experience and still don't have the control panel. Another post suggested it might be hidden and could be forced to make an appearance by right clicking an applications icon, selecting 'Run with graphics processor' and then clicking 'Change default graphics processor'. When I do this on my old laptop it does indeed launch the NVIDIA control panel but on my new one it does nothing.
Does anyone know how I can install this please!?
apologies for jumping on the thread but I think its relevant - I too have recently bought the same laptop and am getting disappointing benchmark results so wanted to try setting the RTX 2070 as the default PhysX processor to see if it worked for me. However, I don't have the NVIDIA control panel installed.
Searching for it only returns web results - which suggest updating the driver but I have updated to the latest drivers using GeForce experience and still don't have the control panel. Another post suggested it might be hidden and could be forced to make an appearance by right clicking an applications icon, selecting 'Run with graphics processor' and then clicking 'Change default graphics processor'. When I do this on my old laptop it does indeed launch the NVIDIA control panel but on my new one it does nothing.
Does anyone know how I can install this please!?
Hi MattS2K,
I had same problem with the pcspecialists default installation or drivers downloaded from support page.
Anyway I did a new installation from scratch of all software.
As first step search for executabe here : C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Control Panel Client\nvcplui.exe
If there isn't then I suggest you to remove your current nvidia driver (and all nvidia software), beginning from windows control panel-> remove program.
follow this guide: https://www.wikihow.com/Uninstall-Nvidia-Drivers
Then download last version of "RTX 2070 notebook" driver from nvidia and install it.
Personally i do not use geforce experience, but if you want you can reinstall it along with new installation.
Last driver with a clean installation should work.
Remember to select "clean install" option when installing.
I had same problem with the pcspecialists default installation or drivers downloaded from support page.
Anyway I did a new installation from scratch of all software.
As first step search for executabe here : C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Control Panel Client\nvcplui.exe
If there isn't then I suggest you to remove your current nvidia driver (and all nvidia software), beginning from windows control panel-> remove program.
follow this guide: https://www.wikihow.com/Uninstall-Nvidia-Drivers
Then download last version of "RTX 2070 notebook" driver from nvidia and install it.
Personally i do not use geforce experience, but if you want you can reinstall it along with new installation.
Last driver with a clean installation should work.
Remember to select "clean install" option when installing.
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It work for a while using this video that PCS send me:https://youtu.be/_KsK55zgUAQ?t=151
But then I updated the drivers through geforce experience and now is not working again.
I 've more options because i'm connected to an external display.
If i use the laptop display i've same options.
Anyway it seems to be correct from what i see.
You have selected rtx 2070 as physx processor and you should be ok.
you can try to select also the check box, anyway, with your same configuration my GPU-Z recognize the physX feature.
What's your problem now?
If i use the laptop display i've same options.
Anyway it seems to be correct from what i see.
You have selected rtx 2070 as physx processor and you should be ok.
you can try to select also the check box, anyway, with your same configuration my GPU-Z recognize the physX feature.
What's your problem now?
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Hello guys, I see you've been busy, well done. Unfortunately this does not change a thing on my machine. I've changed physx to 2070 but the results in 3Dmark did not change