RTX 3000 mobile TGP - early discussions

[Scanian]

I hope that PCS starts adding the TGP of their chassis on the configurator from now on, or at least on the detailed specs page.

So do I. As of today I couldn't recommend a Vengeance to a friend because of this. I had to direct him to a very nice ASUS with a Zen 3-based AMD CPU and fully powered RTX 3070. It was a no-brainer. I could have made a call, but when they have the ASUS on stock in a shop around the corner, why would I? But that's a bit OT.

Unlike previous generations, it seems to me that the TDP is the most linear identifier of performance in GPUs. In theory, a lousy chassy with an RTX 3080 Max-Q fed with only 80W, could have worse performance that an RTX 3060 getting the full 115W. Especially if the chassi has lousy or no support for DynamicBoost or DLSS. Whatever Nvidias intentions were, major players (I'm speaking laptops) like ASUS and MSI have already published their TDP, so the genie is already out of the bottle. Better to go with the flow.

 

[Style evo]

The Elimina 17” uses a Clevo NH77DPQ chassis. I’ve found the following screenshot on a different website for this chassis that suggests the 3060 in it is the 90W version. I have one awaiting dispatch to me so will try and confirm once I have received it.

 

[Macco26]

It reminds me the Intel version with RTX3060 the YouTube channel Hardware Unboxed reviewed and benchmarked few days ago. Take a look if it is really so.

 

[Scanian]

I found out that any 10th gen Intel CPU can not coexist with the flagship RTX 3080 (Max-P) or so I've been told from various sources. The 11th gen CPUs are required for that, and they haven't really been released yet. I am talking laptops here. I cannot find an example to disprove it anyway.

 

[Scanian]

Well, I seems to have been censored for mentioning competing laptop-manufacturers. At the same time nVidia have made an official statement requiring their resellers to publish the TGP of their graphics cards. So now it definitely concerns PCS.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Well, I seems to have been censored for mentioning competing laptop-manufacturers. At the same time nVidia have made an official statement requiring their resellers to publish the TGP of their graphics cards. So now it definitely concerns PCS.

It’s not censoring, it’s adhering to the forum rules, no links to competitor products please.

 

[Scanian]

It’s not censoring, it’s adhering to the forum rules, no links to competitor products please.

I didn't link, but I mentioned competing products. If that is against the forum rules, my apologies. All the same PCS should disclose the TGP for every GPU configured.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I didn't link, but I mentioned competing products. If that is against the forum rules, my apologies. All the same PCS should disclose the TGP for every GPU configured.

Completely agree, and I'm sure they will once they get the chassis in stock.

 

[Macco26]

Tbh AFAIK they already shipped some Elimina laptops to the customers and yet their website still lacks any more information about those RTX 3060. God bless this forum to gather some more information..

 

[sandbags43]

I have received the Elimina 17" RTX 3060 and am pleased with it.
PCSpecialist were particularly helpful in switching memory and hard drives from my previous laptop (with fried motherboard).
I don't know the TGP, but have run the 3DMark Timespy benchmark which came out at 8152.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58441631

Hopefully that's helpful to anybody interested in the Elimina.

 

[Bhuna50]

I have received the Elimina 17" RTX 3060 and am pleased with it.
PCSpecialist were particularly helpful in switching memory and hard drives from my previous laptop (with fried motherboard).
I don't know the TGP, but have run the 3DMark Timespy benchmark which came out at 8152.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58441631

Hopefully that's helpful to anybody interested in the Elimina.

Any chance you could look here: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/real-users-benchmarks-rank-of-pcs-laptops.76665/

and follow instructions re running Firestrike and post your results in this survey please.

It helps benchmark a lot of the laptops with each other so people can see.

Much appreciated.

 

[RisingSun2405]

I have received the Elimina 17" RTX 3060 and am pleased with it.
PCSpecialist were particularly helpful in switching memory and hard drives from my previous laptop (with fried motherboard).
I don't know the TGP, but have run the 3DMark Timespy benchmark which came out at 8152.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58441631

Hopefully that's helpful to anybody interested in the Elimina.

Hi, you can check the GPU power by following the instruction in this video and should be easy

You need MSI afterburner (with Rivatuner) and HWiNFO64

I'd like to know that too, if it is not too much trouble. Also does it have a mux switch?

Thanks in advance

 

[FerrariVie]

I have received the Elimina 17" RTX 3060 and am pleased with it.
PCSpecialist were particularly helpful in switching memory and hard drives from my previous laptop (with fried motherboard).
I don't know the TGP, but have run the 3DMark Timespy benchmark which came out at 8152.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/58441631

Hopefully that's helpful to anybody interested in the Elimina.

I believe that some RTX 3000 series have the max TGP on the "Nvidia Control Panel" --> "System Information" that might tell the TGP? Could not confirm yet, but could you check that for us? I've seen this image around, but not sure if it's available on all manufacturers or not:

 

[Scanian]

I believe that some RTX 3000 series have the max TGP on the "Nvidia Control Panel" --> "System Information" that might tell the TGP? Could not confirm yet, but could you check that for us? I've seen this image around, but not sure if it's available on all manufacturers or not:

But as far as I know, no version of the 3070 has a max TGP of only 85W. I suppose the manufacturer could have limited it to a very low level.

 

[FerrariVie]

But as far as I know, no version of the 3070 has a max TGP of only 85W. I suppose the manufacturer could have limited it to a very low level.

The 3070 "Max-Q" cards will be between 80 to 90W, so 85W is just in the middle there. That value is not considering Dynamic Boost 2.

 

[sandbags43]

I believe that some RTX 3000 series have the max TGP on the "Nvidia Control Panel" --> "System Information" that might tell the TGP? Could not confirm yet, but could you check that for us? I've seen this image around, but not sure if it's available on all manufacturers or not:

Sorry - not on this one - see screenshot below

 

[Macco26]

Weird, but ok. You can always check manually by pushing like Furmark together with HWInfo. You have already Resizable Bar however. There are many laptops (e.g. MSI) which did not yet and required some VBIOS update (OWNorDisown showed that).

 

[FerrariVie]

Sorry - not on this one - see screenshot below
View attachment 22506

Thanks for checking, though. It would be nice to have that

 

[sandbags43]

Hi, you can check the GPU power by following the instruction in this video and should be easy

You need MSI afterburner (with Rivatuner) and HWiNFO64

I'd like to know that too, if it is not too much trouble. Also does it have a mux switch?

Thanks in advance

I ran MSI Kombustor with HWiNFO64 showing on my second screen. Once I forced Kombustor to run on the 3060 rather than the Intel onboard card, it seemed to run at around 105W until it got too hot and throttled it to around 90W.
No physical MUX switch as far as I can see, but you can force it in software using Graphics settings
Screenshot attached:

 

[sandbags43]

Any chance you could look here: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/forums/threads/real-users-benchmarks-rank-of-pcs-laptops.76665/

and follow instructions re running Firestrike and post your results in this survey please.

It helps benchmark a lot of the laptops with each other so people can see.

Much appreciated.

Done.