RTX 3080 vs 2080 Super - should I amend?

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ThornyFloweringShrub

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If waiting on a part for a build (the gpu in this case), can your other parts be allocated to other builds? Ending in a catch 22 of not having all parts, delaying build?
 
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Crizzy G said:
I've also not anywhere in this post recommended him to buy two cards.

I don't know how to make this anymore clearer than. Get either the 3070 0r 3080.

Correction i read your post again i have made a mistake in my first sentence. Apologies.

I also get what you are saying as regards for getting the right card for the job now. However I would still disagree. Have you considered resale factor?
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I have considered resale factor, and the 2070 and 2080 should both be able to claw some money back, only thing is, theres gonna be LOTS of people trying to do just that. Theres every possibility that the only way to shift it is to sell it very very cheap.
 
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Crizzy G

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sibun1 said:
I have considered resale factor, and the 2070 and 2080 should both be able to claw some money back, only thing is, theres gonna be LOTS of people trying to do just that. Theres every possibility that the only way to shift it is to sell it very very cheap.
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Ok let's just agree to disagree as this back and forth is not helping the OP.👍🏽

He has the information now with reasons to back up. Whatever he decides.
 
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WE should both stare intently at him until he makes a decision...
 
SpyderTracks

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I'm just going to chime in here.... if you were to buy a 2070 or 2080 now and sell it in 4 - 6 months, it will likely sell for a fraction of it's value, the 2000 series cards are so poor next to the 3000 series cards that their value has basically been utterly wiped out, buying new is still expensive, but reselling, well they're just not worth anything remotely close to what you pay for them.

I would HIGHLY recommend not buying 2000 series cards, even as a stop gap.

The core of the OP's issue is that they're having trust issues with PCS not being able to give a specific build date. That doesn't change how good the 3000 series are, and that your money would definitely be better spent there.

I don't think a 3080 is appropriate for your needs or monitors, a 3070 or 3060ti would be more suitable, unless you have the £1000 and up to spend on a suitable monitor for the 3080.
 
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Crizzy G

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SpyderTracks said:
I'm just going to chime in here.... if you were to buy a 2070 or 2080 now and sell it in 4 - 6 months, it will likely sell for a fraction of it's value, the 2000 series cards are so poor next to the 3000 series cards that their value has basically been utterly wiped out, buying new is still expensive, but reselling, well they're just not worth anything remotely close to what you pay for them.

I would HIGHLY recommend not buying 2000 series cards, even as a stop gap.

The core of the OP's issue is that they're having trust issues with PCS not being able to give a specific build date. That doesn't change how good the 3000 series are, and that your money would definitely be better spent there.

I don't think a 3080 is appropriate for your needs or monitors, a 3070 or 3060ti would be more suitable, unless you have the £1000 and up to spend on a suitable monitor for the 3080.
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Agreed I said 3080 for the two reasons that OP hasn't set eyes on a future monitor yet, so would give wiggle room if he said actually I can afford to get 4k 120hz ultrawide (kinda future proofing).
Also in terms of value for money its the better card. But yes 3070 more than fine.

And totally agree if you don't need the card right now 20series is a waste of time and not productive.
 
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Crizzy G said:
Cuba cores etc Byte size tech did the maths.
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The xx70 is always the value for money card, you're only missing out on a fairly small amount of performance from 3070 to 3080, the 80 is always at a premium until the xx80ti is released.

The hardware specs don't directly translate to performance in anyway, it's not a linear scaling.
 
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Crizzy G

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SpyderTracks said:
The xx70 is always the value for money card, you're only missing out on a fairly small amount of performance from 3070 to 3080, the 80 is always at a premium until the xx80ti is released.

The hardware specs don't directly translate to performance in anyway, it's not a linear scaling.
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Fair one but I think they make a pretty good argument as to why you should go 3080 and not 3070 if you can afford to do so.
 
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Crizzy G said:
Fair one but I think they make a pretty good argument as to why you should go 3080 and not 3070 if you can afford to do so.
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Well no, that's entirely the wrong thinking, you should ALWAYS pair the GPU with your monitor.

The problem with a lot of people is they think sticking in a top end GPU into a 1080p screen somehow improves your performance, it doesn't do anything of the sort, each tier of card is suited to a specific resolution and refresh rate, you match the GPU to what you have. They all perform EXACTLY the same with regards to visual fidelity if paired correctly with the screen.
 
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Crizzy G

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SpyderTracks said:
Well no, that's entirely the wrong thinking, you should ALWAYS pair the GPU with your monitor.

The problem with a lot of people is they think sticking in a top end GPU into a 1080p screen somehow improves your performance, it doesn't do anything of the sort, each tier of card is suited to a specific resolution and refresh rate, you match the GPU to what you have. They all perform EXACTLY the same with regards to visual fidelity if paired correctly with the screen.
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So your saying faster bandwidth memory doesn't matter?

Also if your saying you should always pair your gpu with monitor you are basically telling the OP he shouldn't be getting the 30series as the monitor he currently has is 66mhz 1080p.
 
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Crizzy G

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SpyderTracks said:
Not if the screen isn’t appropriate, no, it will have ZERO impact to gaming performance at all.
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But thats the prob the OP wants to upgrade further down the line and doesn't know for certain what monitor he's getting.

So to me it makes perfect sense to get the 3080. Yes he would do well to get 3070 but overall the 3080 is just the better option in my opinion.
 
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Crizzy G said:
But thats the prob the OP wants to upgrade further down the line and doesn't know for certain what monitor he's getting.
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That's a separate matter, I was merely stating that blanketly stating the 3080 is a better buy than the 3070 is not appropriate and leads to a lot of confusion for people who don't understand monitor pairing. It's important people understand the relevance of monitor pairing, otherwise they're just going to waste money for no return.

As previously stated, for a suitable monitor for the 3080, you're looking at around £1000 and over for anything half decent.
 
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ThornyFloweringShrub

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Crizzy G said:
But thats the prob the OP wants to upgrade further down the line and doesn't know for certain what monitor he's getting.

So to me it makes perfect sense to get the 3080. Yes he would do well to get 3070 but overall the 3080 is just the better option in my opinion.
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Wait - so if I don’t got 4K and go 1440p (must admit I didn’t remember the monitor prices for 4k), is the 3080 the wrong card? As in it’s literally wrong for a 1440p monitor?
 
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