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p0t3nt1al

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Hi,

I am looking to start from scratch. New computer. New monitor.

I am looking for a mid range machine, capable of playing pretty much any game on decent settings. My current computer lags so bad and freezes constantly. It is quite old now.

I think 1440 is roughly considered mid range so I have built with that in mind.

Mainly use the machine for general internet nonsense, gaming Fortnite/Sims/Warzone.

Looking forward to your opinions. Up to about 2k is my budget.

Case
PCS SPECTRUM II ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Monitor
ASUS TUF GAMING VG27VH1B 27" - CURVED, 1920 x 1080, VA, 165Hz
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £2,120.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/xtSKQsrVTz/
 
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p0t3nt1al

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I have noticed I don't think the monitor I selected is correct. Happy to take suggestions on which one to select instead - as well as ideas on my build :)
 
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p0t3nt1al

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The areas I feel least confident on are

Monitor
Power Supply
Cooling

Any advice on these area's from the build above, along with any general comments on the build as a whole would be amazing.
Thanks
 
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p0t3nt1al

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Hey,

I am looking at the below build.

I kind of understand that its mostly decent from reading through the guides however the cooling + power supply I have just selected randomly. I am finding it difficult to understand if these are suitable/too good/not good enough for the rest of the build.

I am going to be gaming on a 1440p monitor.

I put this together reading through all the info I could find on the forum guides but any help or tips would be appreciated!

Case
PCS SPECTRUM II ARGB MID TOWER CASE (PWM)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 4.0, Wi-Fi 6)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 6500MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ - MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX XT RGB High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
Norton 360 inc. Game Optimizer - Free 90 Day License
Browser
Microsoft® Edge
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 3 to 5 working days
Price: £2,120.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/xtSKQsrVTz/
 
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TonyCarter

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Cooler is fine for that CPU, although you don't need the extra thermal paste as the Corsair AIO comes with it's own pre-applied stuff.

You definitely want to remove Norton, as it's no better than Windows built-in offering, and the Windows version doesn't mess up your computer.

The PCS cases are not the best (build quality, quality of fans, unknown brand so no manuals available), so if you want included RGB fans then something like the Corsair 4000/5000, LianLi or Fractal Design will bel better options.

PSU is 'enough' for what you currently have, but it's the old ATX2.4 spec, so doesn't handle power spikes as gracefully as the newer ATX3.1 spec PSUs. Unfortunately the only lower power ATX3.1 PSU is the 750w RMe which is fine for the lower-end CPUs and GPUs, but I'd say you'd want higher than that...but the next ATX3.1 spec PSU is the 1200w RM Shift.

Finally, there's really no need for a super-fast secondary drive for gaming, so you could go for a larger, slower drive for about the same price (i.e. the 2TB Solidigm P41 Plus).
 
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p0t3nt1al

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Thank you.

I honestly don't care about the RGB. I just want it to look professional and clean as it sits out on show in my living room.

Would that change your opinion on which case/cooler?
 
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TonyCarter

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p0t3nt1al said:
Thank you.

I honestly don't care about the RGB. I just want it to look professional and clean as it sits out on show in my living room.

Would that change your opinion on which case/cooler?
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Just go for one of the non-RGB version of the 4000/5000 then, or go for RGB so that you get the fans, but just turn the lighting off (y)
 
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p0t3nt1al

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Hi,

I don't have a significant amount of knowledge of this space, but been asking some questions and doing some reading online. Trying to make good decision with my upcoming PC purchase. It will be my 2nd PC specialist gaming PC bought.

I have been looking for something to play games on 1440p on high settings.

There are obviously cards now available that will allow me to do 4k gaming, but one thing I have noticed is they sacrifice FPS.

For example, I could play a game on 1440p with 140fps VS playing a game in 4k with 50fps.

My question is - is the benefit of playing in 4k worth the large sacrifice in FPS? Unless you spend a boat ton of money it seems a lot of the 4k cards don't get a significant FPS when gaming. Where do we draw the line on when the sacrifice doesn't become worth the money?

Regards
Steven
 
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p0t3nt1al said:
Hi,

I don't have a significant amount of knowledge of this space, but been asking some questions and doing some reading online. Trying to make good decision with my upcoming PC purchase. It will be my 2nd PC specialist gaming PC bought.

I have been looking for something to play games on 1440p on high settings.

There are obviously cards now available that will allow me to do 4k gaming, but one thing I have noticed is they sacrifice FPS.

For example, I could play a game on 1440p with 140fps VS playing a game in 4k with 50fps.

My question is - is the benefit of playing in 4k worth the large sacrifice in FPS? Unless you spend a boat ton of money it seems a lot of the 4k cards don't get a significant FPS when gaming. Where do we draw the line on when the sacrifice doesn't become worth the money?

Regards
Steven
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50fps isn’t considered acceptable for gaming and that would give it no headroom for future proofing either, so would never be recommended.

For 4k you need an appropriate gpu, the 4080 or 4090, PCS don’t stock 4k gaming laptops
 
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p0t3nt1al

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My question is though, at what point do we draw the line when 4k would be worth it considering almost always it will deliver less FPS Than a 1440p setup?
 
SpyderTracks

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p0t3nt1al said:
My question is though, at what point do we draw the line when 4k would be worth it considering almost always it will deliver less FPS Than a 1440p setup?
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A 4080 would average just over 100fps in most titles, that’s around the ballpark.

Desktop GPUs and laptop are entirely different gpus, so a laptop 4090 is far less powerful than a desktop card.

It does depend on the game, if it’s flight sim for instance, that’s more like 30 - 60fps for playability.

4k wouldn’t deliver less, that’s the point, you pair the gpu to the resolution. So you wouldn’t have a 4080 for 1440p as most of the power would be wasted

Again, this is different on laptops as they can’t be upgraded so you fit as high a card as you can as that will be the first bottleneck
 
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p0t3nt1al

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Hi,

I read through the tips and guide for choosing specs.

On this it recommends an AIO cooler. By this I assume a liquid cooler.

I am looking at the following build.

Case
FRACTAL NORTH TG GAMING CASE (WHITE)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core CPU (4.2GHz-5.0GHz/104MB w/3D V-CACHE/AM5)
Motherboard
ASUS® TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI (AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, Wi-Fi 6E)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
16GB AMD RADEON™ RX 7900 GRE - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
Graphics Card Support Bracket
NONE (BRACKET INCLUDED AS STANDARD ON 4070 Ti / RX 7700 XT AND ABOVE)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB SOLIDIGM P44 PRO GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 7000MB/sR, 4700MB/sW)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SOLIDIGM P41+ GEN 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 4125MB/sR, 3325MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W RMx SHIFT SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead, 1.0mm Core)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 100 V3 Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3 x 120mm PCS Black Case Fan
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
ONBOARD 2.5Gbe LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (6 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 4 to 6 working days
Price: £2,043.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/CsMjmsEFKF/

For a cooler, what would be the recommended one without paying a fortune for it.
Also, I have selected extra case fans. Are these required and are the basic PCS ones okay? They are the cheapest ones available and worried they are not good.

Regards
Steve
 
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p0t3nt1al

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I am in the market for a monitor, yet to decide which one.

Want to play games on 1440p around 170hz. This matches a few monitor options I seen.

Used for gaming.

Most of the build is set, but just don't have a clue about the cooler or extra case fans.
 
Martinr36

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So what's the budget, also what's the monitor budget, without know what monitor is going on the end of it, it isn't possible to sort a spec, the whole lot has to balance, we can't advise on just one part
 
SpyderTracks

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p0t3nt1al said:
I am in the market for a monitor, yet to decide which one.

Want to play games on 1440p around 170hz. This matches a few monitor options I seen.

Used for gaming.

Most of the build is set, but just don't have a clue about the cooler or extra case fans.
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It's getting confusing, if you can stick to the same thread as it's all about the same build and it's really important to be able to see the history.

What's the max budget for the PC and the max budget for the monitor?
 
Scoped Badger

Scoped Badger

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I’m a bit of a snob when it comes to coolers.

You’ll see a lot of low-end machines, and even some mid-range, with air coolers, but my question is always “why would you?” From an aesthetics point of view, you can’t beat an AIO, especially these days when they look so good.

As for choosing the right one, the honest answer is it depends on the chip. Intel chips run hotter than their AMD counterparts, so need bigger coolers.

I like the Corsair ones and certainly wouldn’t go any ‘lower’ than the ones PCS offer. And the main difference between the different models is the size. From the H60x (1 x 120mm fan) to the H150i (3 x 120mm)

Naturally, the higher end the chip, the better cooling you’ll need.
 
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