Standard Ryzen CPU Cooling

NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Hi Everyone!

Just ordered my first build and wondering how I will handle being a kid waiting for Christmas for the next 6 weeks or so before it possibly shows up!

One quick query I do have though:

I have ordered the Ryzen 7 3700X - when purchased separately this would be bundled with the Wraith Prism RGB CPU cooler as standard, so I selected the standard CPU cooler option assuming this is what I will get.

However now I’m not sure if that’s the case? Anyone have any idea? Will I have to amend my order if want more than the most basic little CPU heat sink and fan?

Thanks!!
 
SpyderTracks

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NoddyPilot said:
Hi Everyone!

Just ordered my first build and wondering how I will handle being a kid waiting for Christmas for the next 6 weeks or so before it possibly shows up!

One quick query I do have though:

I have ordered the Ryzen 7 3700X - when purchased separately this would be bundled with the Wraith Prism RGB CPU cooler as standard, so I selected the standard CPU cooler option assuming this is what I will get.

However now I’m not sure if that’s the case? Anyone have any idea? Will I have to amend my order if want more than the most basic little CPU heat sink and fan?

Thanks!!
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I would strongly recommend getting advice on your build as a whole.

can you post your full specs from the order page?
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

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Spydertracks, that could be a record for the most rapid response to a forum post!

Full spec below. My requirement is primarily for photo editing hence the 32GB RAM. No video editing. Possibly some mild gaming but nothing serious and no desire for maxing out FPS in anything I might mess with.

This build is over my intended budget really but I’ve gone eight core for a little more future proofing maybe. Storage needs a quick SSD for OS and programs - cheap and slow M.2 option is still a few times quicker than basic SSD, so it fits my budget. Separate SSD for photo catalogs and scratch disk and cheap old fashioned HDD for original files.

That’s my thoughts anyway. Opinions very welcome!!


Case
AEROCOOL BOLT RGB MID TOWER CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B450-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.1, 6Gb/s) - RGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3000MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB INTEL® 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 1500MB/sR | 1000MB/sW)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
PCS FrostFlow 80 Series High Performance CPU Cooler (AMD)
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Cable Management
PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
 
Resistance100

Resistance100

Expert
NoddyPilot said:
Sorry - cooler above was changed to standard - not the Frostflow 80 shown....
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Could you include the link which would have been at the bottom of those specs.

How much are you looking to spend? There's a few tweaks we can make which will make that system run much smoother :)
 
A

Ash_

Master Poster
With a Ryzen 7, you ideally want a 240mm AIO like coolermasters one, especially with that case.

Case selection is not the best at the moment, but i would recommend a better one.
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Sure!

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I'm looking to spend less than I have! :) About 1000 euro was the plan. I've convinced myself to spend a little more than that, but I definitely can not go higher.

Photo editing - photoshop/lightroom - are my primary stressors - I have no plan to burn up Graphics cards or CPU's with intense gaming or anything. I play Assetto Corsa and Elite Dangerous sometimes - both of which run acceptably to me on my existing 2 core ancient i3 and 1GB HD7750 GPU, so anything better will be like real life!
 
Resistance100

Resistance100

Expert
NoddyPilot said:
Sure!

PCSPECIALIST - Top Spec Custom PCs & Laptops Built to Order

Manufacturer of performance custom computers and laptops. Customise your ideal gaming PC or laptop using our advanced configurator.
www.pcspecialist.ie www.pcspecialist.ie

I'm looking to spend less than I have! :) About 1000 euro was the plan. I've convinced myself to spend a little more than that, but I definitely can not go higher.

Photo editing - photoshop/lightroom - are my primary stressors - I have no plan to burn up Graphics cards or CPU's with intense gaming or anything. I play Assetto Corsa and Elite Dangerous sometimes - both of which run acceptably to me on my existing 2 core ancient i3 and 1GB HD7750 GPU, so anything better will be like real life!
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Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600X Six Core CPU (3.8GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £1,001.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/acjEjmZ7HK/

Given your budget. I would consider a 6core CPU rather than 8. To keep the 8 core you'll have to spend a bit more on cooling (case and fan) to keep up with it.

The 3600 will be fine with the standard cooler. You also want faster ram with Amd Processors so changed that to 3200mhz. The larger PSU will help it run cooler and also give you the room to upgrade the GPU in the future if you felt the need to.

I'm assuming you have you own windows 10 licence already?
 
A

Ash_

Master Poster
I tried to keep as close to budget as possible, but this is the lowest i could get.


Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Cable Management
PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £1,048.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/hHqjP8W9gU/
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

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Ash_ said:
I tried to keep as close to budget as possible, but this is the lowest i could get.


Case
COOLERMASTER MASTERCASE H500 ARGB GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Six Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.6GHz/35MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® PRIME B550-PLUS (DDR4, USB 3.2, 6Gb/s) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1st Storage Drive
1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE
1st M.2 SSD Drive
256GB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (1900 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
Power Supply
CORSAIR 850W RM SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
STANDARD AMD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Extra Case Fans
2x 120mm Black Case Fan (configured to extract from rear/roof)
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT (Wi-Fi NOT INCLUDED)
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
NO RECOVERY MEDIA REQUIRED
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Firefox™
Cable Management
PCS 1.5M Zip Cable Tidy - Professional Cable Management
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
2 - 3 DAY DELIVERY TO REPUBLIC OF IRELAND
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 21 to 23 working days
Price: £1,048.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/hHqjP8W9gU/
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Maybe drop the PSU say down to 650 as the 1050Ti doesn't need anywhere near that 850
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Great guys thanks a mill....stuff to think about there.

My original build was showing a max of 262W I think. Of course you are right that a bigger PSU than required will help with cooling - I didn't really factor that in there. 850W does seem quite a bit bigger though.....

I sat on the fence between the 6 and 8 cores for weeks - Lightroom will use up to 6 cores but not any more than that. I was thinking 8 cores would give me room for any other stuff that I might have going on in the background without ocassionally maxing out the CPU? Thoughts?

I am worried about a 256GB OS drive. That is what I currently have and have just 60GB free at the mo with a handful of games stuffed in there too. I feel 500 ish is the min I'd need...

Could you tell me the benefits of the B550 mobo over the 450 model also? I guess there is some future proofing in there??
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Just looking at the H500 case there - I chose the other one as it was substantially smaller.

Lookit, I just want to have my cake and eat it. Why is that so hard? :) I want a hugely powerful CPU, 1TB of RAM, all in a shoebox please.....
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

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NoddyPilot said:
Just looking at the H500 case there - I chose the other one as it was substantially smaller.

Lookit, I just want to have my cake and eat it. Why is that so hard? :) I want a hugely powerful CPU, 1TB of RAM, all in a shoebox please.....
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Slow roasted CPUwith gently pan fried GPU on the side
 
Resistance100

Resistance100

Expert
NoddyPilot said:
Great guys thanks a mill....stuff to think about there.

My original build was showing a max of 262W I think. Of course you are right that a bigger PSU than required will help with cooling - I didn't really factor that in there. 850W does seem quite a bit bigger though.....

I sat on the fence between the 6 and 8 cores for weeks - Lightroom will use up to 6 cores but not any more than that. I was thinking 8 cores would give me room for any other stuff that I might have going on in the background without ocassionally maxing out the CPU? Thoughts?

I am worried about a 256GB OS drive. That is what I currently have and have just 60GB free at the mo with a handful of games stuffed in there too. I feel 500 ish is the min I'd need...

Could you tell me the benefits of the B550 mobo over the 450 model also? I guess there is some future proofing in there??
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The 850w was more because it was the cheapest fully modular PSU going. 650/750w would be fine :)

A lot of the choices come down to budget. PC component prices are high at the moment due to COVID and demand so compromises have to be made, especially when making a balanced system which will get the most out of your budget.
 
NoddyPirate

NoddyPirate

Grand Master
Resistance100 said:
The 850w was more because it was the cheapest fully modular PSU going. 650/750w would be fine :)

A lot of the choices come down to budget. PC component prices are high at the moment due to COVID and demand so compromises have to be made, especially when making a balanced system which will get the most out of your budget.
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Yes very true Resistance100. If money was no object this would be a lot easier.

A bigger case with better airflow would be a good change to start with for me I think.

Anyone have any thoughts on B550 vs B450 mobo? I don't see any need to exceed 64GB RAM in the future and 3200MHz should also be plenty for the life of this build I would feel. Is there any other elements I am missing?

I had originally picked the Ryzen 5 3600XT over the Ryzen 7 3700X but pushed myself into the 8 core option even though it is slower. Would having a little more CPU than I probably need also help with cooling? Much like the PSU thought process??
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

MOST VALUED CONTRIBUTOR
Resistance100 said:
The 850w was more because it was the cheapest fully modular PSU going. 650/750w would be fine :)

A lot of the choices come down to budget. PC component prices are high at the moment due to COVID and demand so compromises have to be made, especially when making a balanced system which will get the most out of your budget.
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Good call working on those lines
 
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