What's the CL timings on their rams? It doesn't say!

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Monstergeist

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Trying to decide between these two:
- 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE 3200mhz (2x8 GB)
- 16GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB PRO 3600mhz (2x8 GB)

Sure, the 3600 is higher than 3200... But the PCSpecialist store doesn't say anywhere what timings the RAMs use, which could also affect performance.
The price difference is only 10 dollars, so it's just a matter of which is better.

Anyone know what the timings of these are, and which one I should pick?
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

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We can't give advice on individual components without seeing the full spec you're looking at. Please post the full spec from the configurator. :)
 
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Monstergeist

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Not sure how to post the full specs, but here's the mains:

- Motherboard: ASUS® PRIME Z590-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0) ARGB Ready
- CPU: Intel® Core™ i7 8-core processor i7-11700K (3,6GHz) 16MB cache
- GPU: 12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
- RAM: Either one or the other from the original post.

Still wondering what timings the RAMs have, as the PC Specialist store does not list that in the specifications.
Videos comparing 3200mhz CL16 against a 3600mhz CL18 show the 3600mhz being slightly faster. But CL19 or higher would probably be slower, so it'd be helpful to know the timings on the RAMs sold here.
 
ubuysa

ubuysa

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Monstergeist said:
Not sure how to post the full specs, but here's the mains:

- Motherboard: ASUS® PRIME Z590-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0) ARGB Ready
- CPU: Intel® Core™ i7 8-core processor i7-11700K (3,6GHz) 16MB cache
- GPU: 12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
- RAM: Either one or the other from the original post.

Still wondering what timings the RAMs have, as the PC Specialist store does not list that in the specifications.
Videos comparing 3200mhz CL16 against a 3600mhz CL18 show the 3600mhz being slightly faster. But CL19 or higher would probably be slower, so it'd be helpful to know the timings on the RAMs sold here.
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Read the sticky posts at the top. ;)

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...to-post-your-specification-to-our-forums.618/
 
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Monstergeist

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ubuysa said:
Read the sticky posts at the top. ;)

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/foru...to-post-your-specification-to-our-forums.618/
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It seems a bit overkill for a question about their store stock, the information I provided should have been enough for this topic.
Here's the full specs:
Chassi
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW SPELCHASSI I HÄRDAT GLAS
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 8-kärnig processor i7-11700K (3,6GHz) 16MB cache
Moderkort
ASUS® PRIME Z590-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0) ARGB Ready
Minne (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Grafikkort
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
1:a lagringsenheten
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1:a lagringsenheten
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Strömförsörjning
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, EXTRA TYST
Strömkabel
1 x 1 meter europeisk strömkabel (kettle lead)
Processorkylning
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) fläkt CPU-kylare svart
Termisk pasta
STANDARD TERMISK PASTA FÖR TILLRÄCKLIG KYLNING
Ljudkort
ONBOARD 6 KANALER (5.1) HÖGDEFINIERAD LJUDKVALITET (SOM STANDARD)
Nätverkskort
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN-PORT
Trådlöst nätverkskort
TRÅDLÖS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2 400 Mbps/5 GHz, 300 Mbps/2,4 GHz PCI-E-kort + BT 5.0
USB-/Thunderbolt-alternativ
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0-PORTAR @ BAKRE PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONTPORTAR
Operativsystem
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inkluderat Enskild Licens [KUK-00003]
Operativsystemsspråk
USA - Amerikansk Engelska
Windows återställningsmedia
Windows 10/11-återställningsavbildning på flera språk – obegränsade nedladdningar från onlinekonto
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3 års Guldgaranti (2 år upphämtning & retur, 2 år delar, 3 år arbete)
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3 DAGS LEVERANS TILL SVERIGE
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Standardstruktur - Cirka 14 till 16 arbetsdagar
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Få Guardians of the Galaxy med valda grafikprocessorer i GeForce RTX™ 30-serien
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PCSpecialist välkomstbok - Danmark/Finland/Norge/Sverige
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So, how do I see what timings the RAMs listed in the store use?
 
Alltruism

Alltruism

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The Vengeance RGB Pro 3600 I got in my PCS system a few weeks ago is CL18



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ubuysa

ubuysa

The BSOD Doctor
Monstergeist said:
It seems a bit overkill for a question about their store stock, the information I provided should have been enough for this topic.
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It's not a good idea to get stroppy when you're asking for help. We ask for the full spec for a reason, not just to be difficult.
 
Martinr36

Martinr36

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Monstergeist said:
It seems a bit overkill for a question about their store stock, the information I provided should have been enough for this topic.
Here's the full specs:
Chassi
CORSAIR 4000D AIRFLOW SPELCHASSI I HÄRDAT GLAS
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 8-kärnig processor i7-11700K (3,6GHz) 16MB cache
Moderkort
ASUS® PRIME Z590-P (LGA1200, USB 3.2, PCIe 4.0) ARGB Ready
Minne (RAM)
16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8GB)
Grafikkort
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3060 - HDMI, DP
1:a lagringsenheten
512GB PCS 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
1:a lagringsenheten
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Strömförsörjning
CORSAIR 650W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, EXTRA TYST
Strömkabel
1 x 1 meter europeisk strömkabel (kettle lead)
Processorkylning
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 (120mm) fläkt CPU-kylare svart
Termisk pasta
STANDARD TERMISK PASTA FÖR TILLRÄCKLIG KYLNING
Ljudkort
ONBOARD 6 KANALER (5.1) HÖGDEFINIERAD LJUDKVALITET (SOM STANDARD)
Nätverkskort
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN-PORT
Trådlöst nätverkskort
TRÅDLÖS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2 400 Mbps/5 GHz, 300 Mbps/2,4 GHz PCI-E-kort + BT 5.0
USB-/Thunderbolt-alternativ
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0-PORTAR @ BAKRE PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONTPORTAR
Operativsystem
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inkluderat Enskild Licens [KUK-00003]
Operativsystemsspråk
USA - Amerikansk Engelska
Windows återställningsmedia
Windows 10/11-återställningsavbildning på flera språk – obegränsade nedladdningar från onlinekonto
Office-program
GRATIS 30 dagars testperiod av Microsoft 365® (Operativsystem krävs)
Antivirus
INGET ANTIVIRUSPROGRAM
Webbläsare
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Garanti
3 års Guldgaranti (2 år upphämtning & retur, 2 år delar, 3 år arbete)
Leverans
3 DAGS LEVERANS TILL SVERIGE
Byggtid
Standardstruktur - Cirka 14 till 16 arbetsdagar
Kampanjartikel
Få Guardians of the Galaxy med valda grafikprocessorer i GeForce RTX™ 30-serien
Välkomstbok
PCSpecialist välkomstbok - Danmark/Finland/Norge/Sverige
Logotyp marknadsföring
PCSpecialist Logo

So, how do I see what timings the RAMs listed in the store use?
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If you had used the forum search function, I reckon you could have found the answer quite easily, as its fairly regularly asked, or the figures quoted in posts, with the latest within the last month
 
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TonyCarter

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Monstergeist said:
It seems a bit overkill for a question about their store stock, the information I provided should have been enough for this topic.
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The ask for your full config is to ensure there's no obvious mistakes/poor choices in the build which could cause issues later.

In your case - unless you have bought one elsewhere - it may be suggested that the SATA SSD in there is not the optimal choice and you should fit an m.2 SSD instead (500 vs 5000MB/s); and if you're planning on upgrading anything then the a 750/850W RM PSU may be a better option.

The DDR4 RAM at 3200mhz tends to be CAS16, the 3600mhz tends to be CAS18. If you want to ensure tighter/faster timings by buying your own RAM then buy the slowest, smallest stick you can (a 4GB of 2400mhz) and swap it out once you have the PC.
 
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Monstergeist

Member
ubuysa said:
It's not a good idea to get stroppy when you're asking for help. We ask for the full spec for a reason, not just to be difficult.
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You were being unhelpful, and diverting the topic in the wrong direction.
I understand that as a moderator you want to keep a certain standard on your forums but it came off as asking just for the sake of asking (i.e asking for full specs even after I listed the essentials, even tho the full specs clearly wasn't needed to answer my question).

Personally, when I participate in forums I try to stay on topic as much as possible, because people will google these kind of questions in the future (as I did prior to even asking it, without finding the answer), and there's nothing worse than finding forum threads where the OP asks the question you want an answer to, and then having to scroll through a bunch of unrelated responses.
The title asks about RAM timings on RAMs sold by this company, and when people find this thread on google later, that's the answer they're going to search for, which was easily provided by another helpful forum user, which is now listed 5 posts down into the thread for no reason.

There's now also a bunch of off-topic discussions that could have been easily avoided. This is exactly why it's detrimental to an online forum to divert too far from the original question, and if that's how things are done here, no wonder why I couldn't find a clear answer to the question when I added "pcspecialist" to my google search.

Edit: Perhaps, if anything, I may have asked my question in the wrong sub-forum? In that case, it could have been moved.
 
Rakk

Rakk

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Anyways, before this possibly gets further down a rabbit hole we dont want to go down, if you do want advice on the spec as a whole, or anything else you are welcome to start a thread for it or continue in this thread (though I presume you'd want to start another) :)

I'm glad a few answered your actual question :)
 
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Monstergeist

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ubuysa said:
Not at all. I was asking a standard question that we always ask - and for very good reasons. When you ask for help (anywhere, not just here) you need to be a little more considerate and a lot less bullish.
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Being considerate is a 2 way street, mister.
I just said it felt overkill to post full specs for this question, but I did comply anyways.
No reason to call me stroppy and bullish because of it. This is now the 2nd time you go off-topic just to be rude to me, even after the question was answered and another moderator suggested we dont go further down this path.
I agree with that moderator. This is unnecessary.
 
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