This is the build I’ve opted for to push my G9, mainly going to be used for gaming, abit of media consumption and work. I feel personally like I might have goofed on the AIO, as if I’m correct the currently selected one is a dual fan radiator and the case I’ve picked is ridiculously large and would maybe benefit from going larger with the AIO but that’s an upgrade down the line I think with the current one going into another pc I’ll be gifting my daughter. So my main question is as titled where if anywhere did I go wrong?
Where have I goofed?
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This is the build I’ve opted for to push my G9, mainly going to be used for gaming, abit of media consumption and work. I feel personally like I might have goofed on the AIO, as if I’m correct the currently selected one is a dual fan radiator and the case I’ve picked is ridiculously large and would maybe benefit from going larger with the AIO but that’s an upgrade down the line I think with the current one going into another pc I’ll be gifting my daughter. So my main question is as titled where if anywhere did I go wrong?
Aza
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Whats your budget, and can you also link the build using the post to forums button (will be near bottom of the page you copied across)
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As for a budget I have about 4k to play with as treat seeing as my last build had a PSU issue a few days ago and tend to upgrade every few years so opted to just pull the trigger now over replacing the PSU and now my daughter is of the ages she’s interested in Computers it seemed like the right time.
Aza
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Is £3800 you budget limit?
Got a few questions
Was there a reason why you went for a 5900X AMd rather than a 12th gen intel?
The RTX 3090 GPU, it isnt really aimed at gaming, A samsung G9 does need a decent GPU but you should be looking at a 3080 or 3080Ti, I dont think the 3090 is going to give you any additional benefit for gaming, but will cost significantly more
M.2 SSD... you would benefit from a separate 500GB for the OS, and then a gaming drive, was there a reason for the HDD one? or just mass storage for video/pictures/document stuff?
AIO cooler, as a minimum with that level of CPU, you want a H115i... the LCS stuff is nice but its more of a gimmick, I would look at performance first and then if budget allows go for the fancy stuff (I think theres a LCS version of the H115i and H150i anyway)
The additional outlay for a HERO isnt really going to get you anything, a Strix would be very suitable and £100 less
Did you specifically want that case? its very expensive and doesnt give you any massive gains over several other cases that would cost less, but possibly perform better
Got a few questions
Was there a reason why you went for a 5900X AMd rather than a 12th gen intel?
The RTX 3090 GPU, it isnt really aimed at gaming, A samsung G9 does need a decent GPU but you should be looking at a 3080 or 3080Ti, I dont think the 3090 is going to give you any additional benefit for gaming, but will cost significantly more
M.2 SSD... you would benefit from a separate 500GB for the OS, and then a gaming drive, was there a reason for the HDD one? or just mass storage for video/pictures/document stuff?
AIO cooler, as a minimum with that level of CPU, you want a H115i... the LCS stuff is nice but its more of a gimmick, I would look at performance first and then if budget allows go for the fancy stuff (I think theres a LCS version of the H115i and H150i anyway)
The additional outlay for a HERO isnt really going to get you anything, a Strix would be very suitable and £100 less
Did you specifically want that case? its very expensive and doesnt give you any massive gains over several other cases that would cost less, but possibly perform better
Aza
Rising Star
As a comparison, this is an absolute beast of a machine (and what I have saved as a "dream" spec, other than reusing my current case and not having a HDD)
The Strix 3080Ti is currently on preorder, and adds about another £400 to the build, but still less that your spec above and very likely to outperform it/be more upgradable and last longer.
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 12-Core Processor i7-12700KF (3.6GHz) 25MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP, LHR
Graphics Card Support Bracket
PCS GRAPHICS CARD SUPPORT BRACKET
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HXi SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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The Strix 3080Ti is currently on preorder, and adds about another £400 to the build, but still less that your spec above and very likely to outperform it/be more upgradable and last longer.
Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
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Intel® Core™ i7 12-Core Processor i7-12700KF (3.6GHz) 25MB Cache
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4 (LGA1700, USB 3.2, PCIe 5.0) - ARGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
10GB ASUS ROG STRIX GEFORCE RTX 3080 - HDMI, DP, LHR
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1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HXi SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
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10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
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MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
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United Kingdom - English Language
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I’ll answer from the bottom up.
Case wise I remember the original Cosmos from when I was a younger man and always really wanted it but never in the position.
Hero board was a pick based on visuals.
The cooler I picked due to my daughter loving the fact I could put a picture of her on it. ( Yes a dumb choice but daddies girl and she was sat next to me when I was looking at the parts)
As for the SSD question I do have SSD’s from my previous build that I will no doubt be doing this with.
The 3090 is a vanity purchase this will most likely be the last PC and decided to give myself the PC I’ve always wanted. (Probably not a good reason but it’s the only one I have)
As for the CPU I have always had an AMD based system never gone intel and it’s just a preference thing something that’s comfortable.
£3800 is about what I’m happy with without feeling like I’m being gratuitously stupid.
Case wise I remember the original Cosmos from when I was a younger man and always really wanted it but never in the position.
Hero board was a pick based on visuals.
The cooler I picked due to my daughter loving the fact I could put a picture of her on it. ( Yes a dumb choice but daddies girl and she was sat next to me when I was looking at the parts)
As for the SSD question I do have SSD’s from my previous build that I will no doubt be doing this with.
The 3090 is a vanity purchase this will most likely be the last PC and decided to give myself the PC I’ve always wanted. (Probably not a good reason but it’s the only one I have)
As for the CPU I have always had an AMD based system never gone intel and it’s just a preference thing something that’s comfortable.
£3800 is about what I’m happy with without feeling like I’m being gratuitously stupid.
Aza
Rising Star
Its got a lot of issues.
The cooler selected isnt enough to support the CPU, needs a higher spec. (The H150i i've put in the build above also still has the LCD display)
The CPU is actually worse performance than the Intel 12th gen 12700, Intel took a significant lead with the 12th gen release and its a newer platform. AMD are behind atm and will be until the 7000 series release later this year.
The 3090 isnt going to benefit you the same way a 3080Ti would, its not intended for gaming
A single M2 drive wont perform as well as a separate M2 for Os and one for gaming, makes reinstalling windows horrific as you have to reinstall game and performance is less where it shares a single lane
The 1000W PSU will not allow much headroom on such a high spec GPU, and future GPU upgrades will be heavily limited, every indicator says future GPU's will have higher and higher power requirements
What are the SSD's from your old build? are they M2s? Last couple of years have seen huge leaps forward in storage, and microsoft DirectStorage means games will perform better and hugely benefit from higher speeds, same as the OS will.
Im not being vain or egotistical when I say the spec I have put above would outperform yours, the areas you have focused your spend leave it pretty unbalanced. Plus the spec i've put above is -very- high end... ridiculously so. Swap the 3080 for a 3080Ti and its £3450 and an incredible machine, it will run the G9 exceptionally competently.
See what some others think, the mods here genuinely know their stuff inside out and can very likely suggest other improvements and/or give better insight.
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Oh not for a second do I feel you’re being vain or egotistical I came here to bow to those more knowledgable and welcome the input.
Last time I built a rig AMD were leading the pack I believe and honestly hadn’t put much thought into if it had changed but honestly beyond that it was just something I had always gone with, either out of Price vs Performance in the early days or because they were good CPU’s vs the Intel counterpart. So swapping to Intel seems to be the move.
In terms of Upgrading and the PSU this will be my last Pc so as long as the PSU can power the current components I’m not too fused. I’m assuming that the 1000W will run that build?
One question I do have is I know that the 3090 isn’t meant for gaming but I’m guessing it can do it adequately? One reason I went for the 3090 was 24GB of VRAM that given this would be my last PC build would be of some use to me as games use more and more going forward (3-4years down the line). I’m guessing I’ve understood this incorrectly?
They are M.2’s but will admit that aren’t the newest so would be required to get a new one.( Would a 2nd smaller newer M.2 for the OS be the best bet?)
The AIO cooler has me worried now as I don’t want to put the CPU under unnecessary stress so will no doubt require a change. I’ve ran all my other PC’s on Air so being my first AIO I assumed it would do the job.
In essence I goofed 🤣
So check out intel
Better AIO
Another M.2 OS
Graphics card not fit for purpose.
Aza
Rising Star
AMD were a clear lead for a good few years, Intel were slipping behind but with 12th gen they bought themselves back.
Its probably temporary, AMD are due to release in autumn-ish and the 7000 series will likely take the crown back... if you really want AMD, i'd wait for that. Buying now though a 5900X is more expensive, and worse performance than the 12700 Intels.
Heat output from the 5900X (and the 12700 Intel) need proper cooler, H115i would be appropriate but you want teh LCS thing, so H150i is your best choice as your happy to pay for it.
With M.2, the samsung 980 pros and seagate firecuda 530's are current and significantly faster than previous releases.
With Microsoft DirectStorage it also means games drives will hugehly benefit from faster speeds, whereas before it was more important to the OS drive. Youve got the budget to get lastest for both, so I would look at a 500Gb dedicated OS drive (samsung 980 pro is best at that volume) and then a 2TB Firecuda 530 for games
24GB vRAM isnt going to be helpful in the way I think you're expecting it to be, I'd really strongly suggest the 3080Ti given your budget and the G9 screen (the mods will be able to explain about vRAM far better than I can)
I get it may be your last PC, but by taking a 1200W you would be able to just upgrade the GPU as you would normally with a gaming rig, GPU's move on as do game requirements, its very normal to update GPU's every 3 years and you would be able to maintain a high spec GPU much better with a 1200W (Plus the 1200W HXi has some fancy features https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categ...upply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020070-UK ) Having the 1200W would mean you should get a good 10 year lifespan out of it just by upgrading teh GPU a couple of times, whereas you might find you start hitting power requirement limits on GPU upgrade in a few years with the 1000W where you want the top end GPU's
Its probably temporary, AMD are due to release in autumn-ish and the 7000 series will likely take the crown back... if you really want AMD, i'd wait for that. Buying now though a 5900X is more expensive, and worse performance than the 12700 Intels.
Heat output from the 5900X (and the 12700 Intel) need proper cooler, H115i would be appropriate but you want teh LCS thing, so H150i is your best choice as your happy to pay for it.
With M.2, the samsung 980 pros and seagate firecuda 530's are current and significantly faster than previous releases.
With Microsoft DirectStorage it also means games drives will hugehly benefit from faster speeds, whereas before it was more important to the OS drive. Youve got the budget to get lastest for both, so I would look at a 500Gb dedicated OS drive (samsung 980 pro is best at that volume) and then a 2TB Firecuda 530 for games
24GB vRAM isnt going to be helpful in the way I think you're expecting it to be, I'd really strongly suggest the 3080Ti given your budget and the G9 screen (the mods will be able to explain about vRAM far better than I can)
I get it may be your last PC, but by taking a 1200W you would be able to just upgrade the GPU as you would normally with a gaming rig, GPU's move on as do game requirements, its very normal to update GPU's every 3 years and you would be able to maintain a high spec GPU much better with a 1200W (Plus the 1200W HXi has some fancy features https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categ...upply-Units/hxi-series-config/p/CP-9020070-UK ) Having the 1200W would mean you should get a good 10 year lifespan out of it just by upgrading teh GPU a couple of times, whereas you might find you start hitting power requirement limits on GPU upgrade in a few years with the 1000W where you want the top end GPU's
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For gaming, 24GB of VRAM will not get used, I doubt even 4 years from now 24GB of VRAM will get used for gaming, and even if it does there will be more powerful cards at that time that will put the 3090 to shame and be much cheaper,
I say this as I'm a gamer that is plays games at 4K resolution with a 3080TI and i only see around 8 and a half to 10 and a half GB of VRAM being used on my 12GB VRAM 3080Ti,
4K is more demanding than 1440p, so i would think that the VRAM usage at 1440p for gaming would be lower than at 4K,
I would also recommend a 3080 / 3080Ti for that awesome G9 monitor.
Aza
Rising Star
Oh... I thought the opposite was true with those chips, I had read that they were generally outperformed by the new intel with the possible exception of the 5950X in a few scenarios, my bad I apologise.
What would you suggest he spec'd with such a healthy budget? You know this a million times better than I do.
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Personally I'd still go with AMD, it's a superior platform unless you're literally spending £400 on the motherboard, the Intel boards are buggy generally.
5900x is also more efficient and uses less energy which should be on everyone minds at the moment but I realise it isn't.
For me though, the AMD platform still wins out over Intel.
Aza
Rising Star
So (bearing in mind the OP wants the LCD display coolers, Coolermaster case and spec'd for a 2TB HDD) would this be a good shout?
Case
COOLERMASTER COSMOS C700M TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 6900MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SEAGATE FIRECUDA 530 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 7300MB/R, 6900MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 256MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1200W HXi SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® PLATINUM
Power Cable
1 x 1.5 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Display RGB CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
Wireless Network Card
WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
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United Kingdom - English Language
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Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
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3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
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Price: £3,658.00 including VAT and Delivery
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Please @FinalVII , the Intel vs AMD debate really is subjective, and if you personally favour Intel, then go with the 12700k, performance wise they really are neck and neck. A lot of my fellow regular posters will be horrified with me suggesting a 1 1/2 year old platform, but energy efficiency is really important to me to the point I'd happily sacrifice performance for a greener rig (not that you would be sacrificing any performance going with AMD).
Intel have the benefit of more M2 slots, AMD have better VRM support and driver compatiblity. You'll pay less for the same or better quality on AMD, and it uses less energy.
Intel have the benefit of more M2 slots, AMD have better VRM support and driver compatiblity. You'll pay less for the same or better quality on AMD, and it uses less energy.
