Will you consider selling gaming laptops without batteries?

[PizzaWarriorParty]

To put it kindly.................................................................., from my first post I stated unresponsive PC that includes task manager and pressing down power button. I have always had to pop out the battery to defeat the weirdness of the situation.

It doesnt help either knowing that with an integrated battery my machine can turn on any time to update windows or maybe something else!

 

[SpyderTracks]

To put it kindly.................................................................., from my first post I stated unresponsive PC that includes task manager and pressing down power button. I have always had to pop out the battery to defeat the weirdness of the situation.

It doesnt help either knowing that with an integrated battery my machine can turn on any time to update windows or maybe something else!

Where are you getting this from? A battery doesn't somehow give your laptop magical powers to control electricity to it's whims.... if your laptop is turned off then it's turned off, it can't magically turn itself on.

You have full control over windows, that's down to the user, not the manufacturer, things like hybrid sleep and stuff like that is your responsibility.

 

[Scott]

I would check in case your room mate potentially has any issues with his system. It may be wirelessly transmitting via a router/hub.

 

[Scott]

To put it kindly.................................................................., from my first post I stated unresponsive PC that includes task manager and pressing down power button. I have always had to pop out the battery to defeat the weirdness of the situation.

It doesnt help either knowing that with an integrated battery my machine can turn on any time to update windows or maybe something else!

4 second hold of the power button shuts down any laptop.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I would check in case your room mate potentially has any issues with his system. It may be wirelessly transmitting via a router/hub.

The sign will be coughting heard through the walls.

 

[PizzaWarriorParty]

When I turn off my pc i want it off, not randomly turning on. Not doing something suspicious. And if it hangs and turns into a powered brick I want to be able to turn it off to avoid damage and save me grief. With an integrated battery I would have to laboriously unscrew everything under dangerous powered conditions to myself while bad stuff may be occuring to the machine. Hence with forethought I avoid integrated batteries in laptops.

Also I would like to not pay for what I do not need as a gamer in a gaming laptop ie battery ie fingerprint reader ie old graphic card.

 

[SpyderTracks]

When I turn off my pc i want it off, not randomly turning on.

Yes, that's up to you to set windows settings how you want them, it's not up to the manufacturer. You have full control over windows.

And if it hangs and turns into a powered brick I want to be able to turn it off to avoid damage and save me grief. With an integrated battery I would have to laboriously unscrew everything under dangerous powered conditions to myself while bad stuff may be occuring to the machine.

Again, that's not accurate, holding the power switch for 5 seconds causes a hard reboot, it's not a software thing, it cuts the circuit. It's the case on all laptops. If it's not working it's because there's a hardware issue with your laptop.

Also I would like to not pay for what I do not need as a gamer in a gaming laptop ie battery ie fingerprint reader ie old graphic card.

You're ordering a laptop. A component of a laptop is a battery as it doesn't work to designed purposes without one. PCS only sell full systems. There is no laptop supplier on the planet that will sell a laptop without a battery as it's a required part of the design. You are of course at full liberty to remove the battery if you so choose, you can remove an internal battery just the same as an external battery.

But the basic point is, if you're downloading dodgy hacks and installers, then I'm afraid the onus is on you for contracting a virus. No anti virus on the planet will protect from a forced installation. If you're getting random restarts and behaviour like that it's because you have a virus, it's nothing to do with the hardware. It's up to you to maintain your windows environment and not install dodgy stuff.

But you're whole reasoning for not wanting a battery is flawed in the first instance, you're confusing software with hardware, software is reliant on hardware and cannot operate without it. Your arguments hold no weight.

 

[PizzaWarriorParty]

Yes, that's up to you to set windows settings how you want them, it's not up to the manufacturer. You have full control over windows.


Again, that's not accurate, holding the power switch for 5 seconds causes a hard reboot, it's not a software thing, it cuts the circuit. It's the case on all laptops. If it's not working it's because there's a hardware issue with your laptop.

You're ordering a laptop. A component of a laptop is a battery as it doesn't work to designed purposes without one. PCS only sell full systems. There is no laptop supplier on the planet that will sell a laptop without a battery as it's a required part of the design. You are of course at full liberty to remove the battery if you so choose, you can remove an internal battery just the same as an external battery.

But the basic point is, if you're downloading dodgy hacks and installers, then I'm afraid the onus is on you for contracting a virus. No anti virus on the planet will protect from a forced installation. If you're getting random restarts and behaviour like that it's because you have a virus, it's nothing to do with the hardware. It's up to you to maintain your windows environment and not install dodgy stuff.

But you're whole reasoning for not wanting a battery is flawed in the first instance, you're confusing software with hardware, software is reliant on hardware and cannot operate without it. Your arguments hold no weight.

Before I even posted this thread I personally sent from the very same email a query to PCSpecialist and was told specifically there is no hard reset for the batteries. I even used same example of Tekken vs Streetfighter. Hence I posted this thread.

I lived my argument over many years unfortunately and though its rare it does happen that machines do brick for some very strange reason, and need full power down.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Before I even posted this thread I personally sent from the very same email a query to PCSpecialist and was told specifically there is no hard reset for the batteries. I even used same example of Tekken vs Streetfighter. Hence I posted this thread.

That's not accurate. I have a PCS laptop, as well as a few others and they all have hardware resets. It's not present on some laptops, it's built into all of them. It's a physical protection circuit. We've never had anyone saying they can't perform a hard reset.

I lived my argument over many years unfortunately and though its rare it does happen that machines do brick for some very strange reason, and need full power down.

I don't understand what this means. A brick means it's dead and unrecoverable, that's a hardware failure.

 

[ubuysa]

Before I even posted this thread I personally sent from the very same email a query to PCSpecialist and was told specifically there is no hard reset for the batteries. I even used same example of Tekken vs Streetfighter. Hence I posted this thread.

I lived my argument over many years unfortunately and though its rare it does happen that machines do brick for some very strange reason, and need full power down.

A battery hard reset was something we sometimes needed for the old NiCad batteries that could develop a 'memory'. If you didn't charge or discharge them fully they would develop a charge 'memory' and refuse to hold a full charge. Some (more expensive) NiCad batteries were fitted with a 'hard reset' button which (AFAIK) fully discharged the battery, removing the memory and allowing it to receive a full charge again. To hard reset a NiCad battery that didn't have a hard reset switch needed a more complex process to restore it to full charge.

Modern Li-Ion batteries do not suffer from the same 'memory' issues and thus don't need a hard reset button - and that's what PCS told you. It is true that a Li-Ion battery's state of charge can get out of sync with the Windows battery charge indicator and that requires a resynchronisation - but that's a whole different issue.

I have never ever had any laptop (or PC) brick for 'some very strange reason' and I'd bet that nobody else on here who knows what they're doing has either.

You're chasing shadows in this thread, possibly based on something you've read and didn't fully understand. Asking for a laptop without a battery is like asking for a car without wheels - pointless.

 

[Gavras]

To put it kindly.................................................................., from my first post I stated unresponsive PC that includes task manager and pressing down power button. I have always had to pop out the battery to defeat the weirdness of the situation.

It doesnt help either knowing that with an integrated battery my machine can turn on any time to update windows or maybe something else!

With respect, your first post was.

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Asking cause gaming wise I am just plug and play and greatly dislike batteries.

They can keep your machine on and unresponsive during a malware attack.


I tried zooming in closer to the text but really cannot see where you mentioned task manager.


Has someone said to you that a freezing Pc / Laptop is a sign of malware?

Is this just happening with one game?

have you got Windows 7 or Windows 10, if the latter is it updated / patched to latest level?

you need to read up on Malware.

Yes some games will cause a PC or laptop to become unresponsive, it’s usually a driver problem, update drivers.

if a game still does it, chances are it’s not compatible with your hardware / drivers.

you definitely do not need to format your drive every month lol.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I’m going to lock this thread as I think it’s been pretty conclusively answered and there’s not much left to say on the topic.

 

[ubuysa]

I was tempted to do the same a lot sooner.