Have Already Ordered But...

[RichardL]

...what do you think?

For 4K gaming on very high (maybe even ultra where possible!) settings. Previously ordered the H150 cooler but its gone out of stock so had to change my order earlier in the week.

Case
CORSAIR iCUE 5000X RGB MID TOWER GAMING CASE
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 Core CPU (3.7GHz-4.8GHz/70MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard
ASUS® ROG STRIX X570-F GAMING (USB 3.2 Gen 2, PCIe 4.0) - ARGB Ready!
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
12GB NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 Ti - HDMI, DP, LHR
1st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st M.2 SSD Drive
2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 7000MB/R, 5000MB/W)
1st Storage Drive
4TB SEAGATE IRONWOLF PRO 3.5", 7200 RPM 128MB CACHE
Power Supply
CORSAIR 1000W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
Corsair iCUE H115i ELITE CAPELLIX RGB Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste
STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING
Extra Case Fans
3x Corsair LL120 RGB LED Fan + Controller Kit
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Card
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00003]
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10/11 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
Microsoft® 365 Personal (12 Month Subscription - Digital Key)
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Browser
Google Chrome™
Warranty
3 Year Gold Warranty (2 Year Collect & Return, 2 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days
Price: £3,636.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/amd-am4-gen3-pc/0!VfV7dtQJ/

The monitor I have got to go with it is an Asus ROG Strix 4K 144Hz monitor (can get model number if necessary) think it came in at around £700.

Currently in pre-production (though the price has gone up a bit since I ordered but the above are all the parts I've chosen)

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[SpyderTracks]

The build itself is lovely, it's well balanced and has a suitable monitor.

Some will suggest Intel 12700k being the better option for gaming, but it's generally pretty close when compared to the 5900x, Jarrod's Tech did a good summary of them here:

It's all down to which platform you prefer really. For me it would be AMD as there are still benefits to them over Intel such as power and heat.

 

[RichardL]

I ordered back off of what I had previously - you know if its not broken, don't fix it kind of thing - appreciate Intel have taken first place for now but have been impressed with the 5900.

I know I wont get 144 fps out of Flight Simulator etc. (be happy if I can scrape 50 on high settings) I just want to play the latest stuff at respectable frame rates. Coming from console where its 4K/30fps or 1800/60fps has always bugged me. Now if I can get away with (majority) 4K/60 I'll be fine as its something that I'm not getting consistently with the consoles if that makes sense?

 

[SpyderTracks]

I ordered back off of what I had previously - you know if its not broken, don't fix it kind of thing - appreciate Intel have taken first place for now but have been impressed with the 5900.

I know I wont get 144 fps out of Flight Simulator etc. (be happy if I can scrape 50 on high settings) I just want to play the latest stuff at respectable frame rates. Coming from console where its 4K/30fps or 1800/60fps has always bugged me. Now if I can get away with (majority) 4K/60 I'll be fine as its something that I'm not getting consistently with the consoles if that makes sense?

Yeah, absolutely. Despite not being intel it's still basically the top tier of home PC you can currently buy, and the platform is solid to back it for a long time, plus good size PSU to allow for next gen PCIe 5 GPU's which will have the capability of drawing more power than current GPU's.

One thing I forgot to mention, the Seagate Ironwolfs are pretty loud, like you'll notice it kind of loud. They're more designed for NAS drives or servers that are in a separate room. You may find that 2 x 2Tb Seagate Barracuda's (over 3Tb are only 5400rpm) may suit your environment better.

There's quite a thorough summary of noise levels here:

 

[MrWilson]

The build itself is lovely, it's well balanced and has a suitable monitor.

Some will suggest Intel 12700k being the better option for gaming, but it's generally pretty close when compared to the 5900x, Jarrod's Tech did a good summary of them here:

It's all down to which platform you prefer really. For me it would be AMD as there are still benefits to them over Intel such as power and heat.

Agree with this, it's a really solid and balanced build and will be excellent for gaming, a substantial step up from console.
Was just about to mention that the Ironwolf HDDs are on the noisy side, but Spyder has beaten me to it!

 

[RichardL]

Cool - the mechanical HDD is primarily just for storing pics, documents etc. so it wont see regular action so to speak, just a repository for all the gubbins I've collected over the years.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Cool - the mechanical HDD is primarily just for storing pics, documents etc. so it wont see regular action so to speak, just a repository for all the gubbins I've collected over the years.

Should be fine then.

I use WD Reds in my media server (which again is not access all that much) which are Western Digitals alternatives, and although they are quieter than the Ironwolf's, it's not by much, and I don't notice them much at all.

 

[RichardL]

To be honest I have an abundance of mechanical drives, depending on spare connectors will probably hook up another couple (not Ironwolf, just 5400 drives)

 

[DarTon]

Your build is not dissimilar to my personal build (see below). I've had it since April and found it very capable. I use it with 3 x 32" monitors (inc a M32U 144Hz) so I don't think you'd be disappointed.

Re: AMD 5900X vs Intel 12700KF. For most gaming at 4K, it's not going to make any difference. In 95% of games you will be GPU limited way before you are CPU limited. It's really just a question of personal preference, how long you are willing to wait if reordering puts you at the back of the queue and price. I see a like-for-like DDR4 Intel system at about £3,450 vs. AMD at £3,650. If you locked in your ordered PC cheaper, the difference may be so marginal as to be irrelevant.

Intel performs marginally better but the main positive is the Z690 motherboard which has PCIe5 socket and 4xM2 sockets. The X570 has only two which I find rather limiting.

Nonetheless, it's probably easier to stand pat. There is always a better PC just around the corner.

 

[RichardL]

Hmm. Case is now showing out of stock now but everything was in stock when I ordered on 1/2/22.

From past experience does this mean my order is now delayed until stock comes in or was my case secured along with all the rest of the parts that were in stock on 1/2/22?

I was just waiting for it to go into build when I ordered, admittedly was showing 9 to 11 days when I ordered (which was taken with pinch of salt) but nothing was out of stock, nothing was on pre-order at the point of ordering.

 

[DarTon]

5000X is very popular. Comes in and out of stock all the time. Worse case scenario (no pun intended) just lift one off Amazon for £132, get it sent direct to PCS, and alter your order. Might cost you a tenner more but it will be there within a day or two.

 

[Scott]

I would swap the M2 drives out for the Firecuda 530s over the 980 pro's, if insistent on 1tb & 2tb. I would generally recommend a 500GB primary (in which case I would opt for the 980 pro as it's write speed is way faster) for the primary, in order to keep good housekeeping on the primary drive. That's a personal thing though.

I genuinely wouldn't spend the extra money on the 3080Ti. It's just not worth it IMO. The 3080 is very much a capable GPU and the difference between them at 4k is marginal, you won't see it.

 

[RichardL]

5000X is very popular. Comes in and out of stock all the time. Worse case scenario (no pun intended) just lift one off Amazon for £132, get it sent direct to PCS, and alter your order. Might cost you a tenner more but it will be there within a day or two.

Yeah I get that; it’s more of the parts I ordered that were all in stock has it gone to someone else now?

Scenario 1: 100 cases in stock, I order there are now 99 cases in stock.

Scenario 2: 100 cases in stock, PCS come along to build a system, 99 cases in stock.

Not asking for insider dealing on their stock system or anything like that. Had to cancel last year when it got to 70 working days as I was literally out of time and had to make alternative arrangements but the cards were all pre-order then. This was all in stock at time of order and theoretically was just waiting for a place in the build queue.

 

[RichardL]

I would swap the M2 drives out for the Firecuda 530s over the 980 pro's, if insistent on 1tb & 2tb. I would generally recommend a 500GB primary (in which case I would opt for the 980 pro as it's write speed is way faster) for the primary, in order to keep good housekeeping on the primary drive. That's a personal thing though.

I genuinely wouldn't spend the extra money on the 3080Ti. It's just not worth it IMO. The 3080 is very much a capable GPU and the difference between them at 4k is marginal, you won't see it.

Appreciate it. Like you say personal thing and I’m using 980s on other systems currently so kinda got used to them, it is the pro’s I’ve ordered here.

Get your point about the Ti but again personal choice.

 

[DarTon]

I have no idea how the PCS inventory management system works but I doubt it's your scenario 1. It would not be prudent for them to run large inventory levels given their very slim margins (operating profit was 2.3% on revenues in their last accounts).

I suspect they see where their suppliers can offer components and use that to price their systems. As the orders come in, they then use those cleared funds to buy inventory to match that, aiming to keep a very low inventory float. When there is a supply shortage or a risk of a price change, the component goes out of stock.

 

[SpyderTracks]

I believe parts are not assigned until build time, as @DarTon says, it's not commercially viable for them to hold stocks, costs far too much.

 

[RichardL]

Okay thanks both.

 

[RichardL]

As an update I can see they have 5000D cases in stock, if you were me would you risk amending your order or just leave it as is?

Don't worry I'm not going to hold anyone responsible for their opinion!!

 

[DarTon]

The 5000D is a very good case. It does only come though with two 120mm fans (one front and one at rear). Given the size of the case, testing by the likes of Gamers Nexus has shown this can create a bit of dead spot for airflow below the GPU. This is not ideal if you have a very hot GPU like a 3080 Ti. So the recommendation is to add an extra 2 x120mm at the front ... by which time it costs as much as the 5000X.

Edit: If you really want the 5000X, just buy it off Amazon and send it to PCS. That way the case is yours and yours alone.

I'd also note that I have a 4000D and it's fine with a 3080 Ti. It also only has two fans but the smaller size of the case means the location of the front fan doesn't create a dead spot for airflow below the GPU like with the 5000D. I've now added an extra 2x120mm fans anyway but it was ok before I did that. Plus I have a 3080 Ti FE which has the worst cooling you can possibly imagine ... looks nice though!

 

[Vajra]

When I ordered my pc everything was in stock but during the pre built some of the components became out of stock but I get everything I ordered in the end.

I think the reason for that is that PCS don't get consistent deliveries so if a given piece is really popular but in short supply they change the status to "out of stock" to prevent too many people from ordering it and causing a backlog. If you managed to place your order then hopefully you should be fine however times are uncertain so you can't be sure of anything till you actually get your pc.