Intel 13th and 14th Gen confirmed defective

[TonyCarter]

Meh!

 

[TonyCarter]

It's never a good thing when your AI gets halloumified!

Definitely don't want a squeaky, rubbery AI.

 

[SpyderTracks]

Meh!

So essentially everything about the benefits that would make this series worthwhile over previous gens aside from losing performance (price, power reduction and stability) is a complete lie.

The APO that motherboards "without fail" would all enable out of the box by default is untrue and APO doesn't improve performance anyway

The efficiency improvements is only if you're monitoring the 8PIN CPU cable, where a significant portion of the power draw is now additionally being drawn from the 24pin motherboard cable???? (This shouldn't be allowed, this is purely an attempt to mislead reviewers). Intel stated around 50% gains, the truth is closer to 30%. AMD still smashes them across the board.

And after everything the processors are failing left right and center with Anti Cheat's and general stability?

OK, so early days, perhaps they can improve things with driver / BIOS updates.

But... Jesus!!!

Even for Intel this is absolute desperation. This seems worse than the 11th Gen launch. I can't see any use case, even Adobe that this series makes any sense until prices bottom out.

 

[Ekans2011]

 

[TonyCarter]

If you need something for Premiere Pro, After Effects, Blender or the like, then the 13700/14700/285K are may be a consideration - as long as you understand that peak performance may not be maintained for very long.

For everything else non-gaming get a 7950/9950X.

For gaming get a 7800/9800X3D.

 

[Ekans2011]

If you need something for Premiere Pro, After Effects, Blender or the like, then the 13700/14700/285K are may be a consideration - as long as you understand that peak performance may not be maintained for very long.

For everything else non-gaming get a 7950/9950X.

For gaming get a 7800/9800X3D.

I'm not sure if the message was meant to me, but I posted der8auer for completeness; I myself have no intention of buying INTEL for any reason in the world.

 

[TonyCarter]

I'm not sure if the message was meant to me, but I posted der8auer for completeness; I myself have no intention of buying INTEL for any reason in the world.

No it wasn't.

Just a general summary of where the respective CPUs fall in gaming, production and the edge cases where Intel die-hards may have an argument

 

[SpyderTracks]

No it wasn't.

Just a general summary of where the respective CPUs fall in gaming, production and the edge cases where Intel die-hards may have an argument

I often do that, I reply to the previous or some other comment, just to follow the conversation from that point, but it's often aimed at the OP or the general thread rather than the person I"m replying to

 

[Ekans2011]

''Leo's Thoughts: So, do I recommend this platform? Obviously not''

 

[SpyderTracks]

 

[Ekans2011]

 

[Ekans2011]

 

[SpyderTracks]

Blimey, I had a suspicion Intel were going to fall fast, but it really is happening lightening fast given the sheer size of them.

They’ve officially been delisted from the Dow Jones stock market which is the 30 most traded stocks on the New York Stock Exchange. Intel has been on that for over 25 years. It’s being replaced by NVidia

Intel’s getting kicked out of the Dow | CNN Business

Intel will lose its spot in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after a 25-year run to Nvidia, S&P Dow Jones Indices said on Friday, the latest blow to the struggling chipmaker that was among the first two technology firms to be included in the blue-chip index.

amp.cnn.com

Their stock has fallen 54% THIS YEAR, that’s after 2 extremely bad years performance wise.

Apparently the US government is stepping in to arrange a merger as Intel are too strategically important to fail.

US government considering cash infusions, AMD merger to help struggling Intel

Can the government force a merger?

www.tomsguide.com

 

[Martinr36]

Blimey, I had a suspicion Intel were going to fall fast, but it really is happening lightening fast given the sheer size of them.

They’ve officially been delisted from the Dow Jones stock market which is the 30 most traded stocks on the New York Stock Exchange. Intel has been on that for over 25 years. It’s being replaced by NVidia

Intel’s getting kicked out of the Dow | CNN Business

Intel will lose its spot in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after a 25-year run to Nvidia, S&P Dow Jones Indices said on Friday, the latest blow to the struggling chipmaker that was among the first two technology firms to be included in the blue-chip index.

amp.cnn.com

Their stock has fallen 54% THIS YEAR, that’s after 2 extremely bad years performance wise.

Apparently the US government is stepping in to arrange a merger as Intel are too strategically important to fail.

US government considering cash infusions, AMD merger to help struggling Intel

Can the government force a merger?

www.tomsguide.com

Wow, that is bad

 

[TonyCarter]

In one way I feel they deserve it...but I don't want to be in a situation where there's only AMD left, as they'll just get as lazy as Intel and we won't have an alternative (not counting Apple Silicon).

 

[SpyderTracks]

In one way I feel they deserve it...but I don't want to be in a situation where there's only AMD left, as they'll just get as lazy as Intel and we won't have an alternative (not counting Apple Silicon).

I do think it’s X86 vs Arm these days with Qualcomm now offering renewed competition in the windows space.

I don’t want Intel to drop out, but the entire management needs to be replaced as their entire culture and ethos is beyond broken.

Gelsinger has only been steering the ship since 2021, his predecessors, Bob Swan and Brian Krzanich were just as shady although not as public. There have been so many times where senior execs should have faced federal prosecution and they weren’t even given a slap on the wrist.

 

[AccidentalDenz]

A struggling big tech company looking for new owners? Musk will be all over it, he'll be a genius if he turns them round, or we'll just continue to laugh at him if he does a Twitter on them.

 

[SpyderTracks]

A struggling big tech company looking for new owners? Musk will be all over it, he'll be a genius if he turns them round, or we'll just continue to laugh at him if he does a Twitter on them.

Turns out Musk borrowed the 13ish billion of “his own” cash he put forward for the purchase of twitter, 13 banks agreed the loans and are now eagerly seeking to collect. Of course twitter has lost 80% of its valuation so even if he sold it now, it wouldn’t cover the loan amounts

Elon Musk's Twitter takeover has ended up as the worst buyout deal for banks since the financial crisis

The WSJ reported on Tuesday that the debt for Musk's Twitter purchase has been stuck on banks' balance sheets, eating into the ability to fund other deals.

www.businessinsider.com

All Musks worth is in Tesla and SpaceX stock, he has very little cash worth at all, his only way to raise cash is to sell significant amounts of shares which would likely mean he’d lose controlling stakeholder status. It's SUPPOSED to be the case that you can't offer up unrealised assets (stocks) as purported wealth to raise capital, but it seems that didn't apply to Musk in his Twitter deals. People aren't taxed on stocks, as soon as he cashes in, he’s also liable for a significant tax bill on that new cash wealth (because the stocks were literally his form of salary rather than cash).

So to generate $13 Billion legally, he'd have to sell about $20 billion to cover taxes and red tape costs. Of course, he'd likely be able to do a deal with the government to drastically reduce the amount of tax he owed as happens with these high earners.

He’s also increasingly being chased by various governments for his direct support of Russia and is facing losing security clearance in the US (which would mean he’d have to divest his entire SpaceX stocks and Starlink is a subsidiary of SpaceX)

 

[Steveyg]

If you owe the bank £100 that's your problem, if you owe the bank literally millions and billions that's the banks problem

He's a scumbag but so are bankers, solely exist to screw over every working person who's going to have to eventually foot the bill in the form of taxes for this nonsense as evidenced by every single other time this has happened in the past

 

[polycrac]

He’s also increasingly being chased by various governments for his direct support of Russia and is facing losing security clearance in the US (which would mean he’d have to divest his entire SpaceX stocks and Starlink is a subsidiary of SpaceX)

If only there were some sort of political bandwagon he could jump on. Maybe leveraging Twitter's reach to swing support behind the kind of shady character that might let him off the hook once elected. Nothing so obvious as offering people millions to sign up with one candidate of course...